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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 11:59 AM Original message |
Here is your chance: explain to me why I should not be a Christian |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. I have no problem with your choice of faith, but a better question... |
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leftyandproud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. because religion is stupid |
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SCRUBDASHRUB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
135. Because I am a Jew. That's why I'm not a Christian. |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Shit, go ahead and be a Christian. |
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samwisefoxburr (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. I am a Satanist... |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
71. I never thought I'd praise the viewpoint of a Satanist- |
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juslikagrzly (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. I can't, and I won't |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. I don't give two shits what you ARE. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. What does this have anything to do with politics? |
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juslikagrzly (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It has everything to do with politics |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. No it doesn't. |
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juslikagrzly (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Maybe I'm the first |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. What does this have anything to do with politics? |
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juslikagrzly (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Pardon me for my opinion that it is an important political issue |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. I tend to agree. |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 07:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
129. Actually, this is SUPPOSED to be a non-political board. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 07:23 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. This began in GD |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 07:30 AM Response to Reply #129 |
131. I can't believe you just kicked this thread... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. You can be whatever the fuck you want to be... |
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JPace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. What an odd question.... |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I'm tired of saying silent - so, here's your chance - present your best |
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CO Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
67. If You Keep It To Yourself as Your "Personal Faith", Fine |
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Raiden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. As long as you act like a true Christian |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. Christian...is a label...Jesus was not a Christian... |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Good answer! |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. I'm not asking you to tolerate me, I'm asking you to present your argument |
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StupidFOX (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. I think you misunderstand us |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. We? I can present you with countless examples... |
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StupidFOX (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Well you have to remember |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
93. Because |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I think that real Christians do none of these things, but that many who |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Oh I know that. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. I'm not sure that "any decent person" would turn the other cheek, or go |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. A little word play? |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 09:46 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. I think a very small percentage of "Christians" are true Christians. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. I am not a Christian basher |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
70. DU is going to naturally attact the far secular left |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
103. Meant to reply to original post |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
105. I don't know if I can be accused of freely bashing religion. |
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stlchic (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
125. I'm curious as to why you care |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. Follow your heart. |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. I don't know if this is an argument to not be a Christian but... |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. No all Christians focus on the torture and Death of Jesus.... |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. A question for you: |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. don't strive to be a Christian, strive to be Christ like |
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StupidFOX (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. Christianity is great, especially when a person believes independently |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Of course I agree with that, but that is not what is often said here |
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StupidFOX (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I know... |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't care if you're a Christian. You aren't Daniel and there is no |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. there are no gods, that's why |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. How do you know? And Bhuddism doesn't necessarily have a god |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #36 |
119. evidence - there is no evidence |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
23. I would never try to convince anyone to abandon their religion |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
25. your religious rights end where someone else's individual |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. well said |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Of course, I know this. And that wasn't my question. |
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whodiedandmadeUSgod (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
28. My bumper sticker reads Christians for Kerry |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
29. Question |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Because I care about the attitude of the community. :) |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
31. "Each one must learn for himself the highest wisdom. It cannot be taught |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
34. Good luck with this. |
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Egalitarian (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
39. If I may point out a few things |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Loved the response. Let me say a couple things, in answer |
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Egalitarian (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. Yes, so long as the label is recognized |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Thanks for saying what I was trying to say earlier but |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. Be a Christian with humility and without hypocrisy and do it for the |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
45. Why are you trying to shove your faith in a box? |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. That was beautifully put. |
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ScrewyRabbit (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
49. Do you believe that there's only one type of Christian? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
50. Question - why are you so offended? |
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ScrewyRabbit (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. By the way, I read your blog entry |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. No one seems to want to answer your question. I'll try to answer it. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Thank you! Response: |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. Your response satisfies me that you are not, |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #53 |
99. I'm not convinced that taking the "faith of your fathers" is choosing at |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. I believe true faith transcends narrow religious definitions. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
55. Allow me to offer you a piece of constructive criticism.... |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. The purpose of this thread is to listen to the agruments.... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. I don't have a problem with anyone being a Christian... |
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Philosophy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
59. Religion is epistemological laziness |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Laziness is insulting - how about epistemic incapacity |
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Philosophy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. But are you sure you know what your capacity is? |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
61. Who the fuck cares if you are a X-tian? |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
62. I'll give it a shot. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I had a full response, clicked post and the thread was locked... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
65. do as you wish. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
66. Don't have a Christ, be a Christ |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. Wow... I really like that. |
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samplegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
96. Could'nt of been said better |
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CO Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. You Can Be Whatever You Want to Be, Selwynn |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Courtesy is good, most definitely |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. yep I think I found my common ground |
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CO Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Unfortunately.... |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Yes but judging a whole faith because of extremeists is wrong |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Please point out to me ANYONE here who has judged all Christians |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I don't have any links but people have said Christians are ignorant |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Ok, so I'll assume that there are a few people here that might do that... |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. and I said that homosexuality wasnt a sin |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. And I'm not talking about YOU. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I understand that |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. This is the sentiment to which I am responding: |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. and I disagree with him |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I think we understand eachother now. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. phew |
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CO Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
94. No, I'm Not |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I understand and it's cool |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
108. Without a doubt. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. ahh you can never be too christian for the left |
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BigMcLargehuge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
76. allow me to attempt to answer you challenge |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 06:34 AM Response to Reply #76 |
115. But none of those things is a requirement for Christians |
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jukes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
81. you *shd* be |
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samplegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
87. Because Christians seem |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
92. More than a matter of language |
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RollergirlVT (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
100. I would never try to convince anyone not to be a christian.... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
104. You need to realize |
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RebelYell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. What Pithlet said n/t |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-17-04 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
109. Faith should be a show of optomism..... |
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pauliedangerously (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
110. Very interesting question |
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the Princess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
112. I find this to be a very odd question on a political board |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
113. The non-faithful have absolutely no desire to convert the faithful |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
114. You should be what you are, what you believe |
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trigz (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
116. George Bush is a christian as well. End of discussion (nt) |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 02:43 AM Response to Reply #116 |
126. Whoa! I take it that you're not a Christian |
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trigz (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 07:51 AM Response to Reply #126 |
133. Not even baptised, dear... |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 09:38 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. An excellent explanation. And that's pretty much the way I feel, too |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
117. Instead, I'll recommend a book for you to read: |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
118. You don't have to do anything you don't want to |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
120. Honestly, I don't give a fuck WHAT you are. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
121. selwynn..I like you..be a Christian but stop using it to get attention |
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kick-ass-bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
122. Who cares? |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
123. The Word "Christian" |
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Wat_Tyler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-04 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
124. Why do you care what others say or think? |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
127. Gee, what a nice fair query there! |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
128. One thing troubles me about Christianity, and that's its exclusivity... |
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Amaya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-04 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
132. No one can convince you to put faith in anything |
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