KelleyKramer
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Tue Oct-19-04 01:42 AM
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And now its $2 bucks a gallon for gas??! |
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Why isn't anyone raising hell about gas prices??!
You don’t hear ANYTHING about people paying these jacked-up prices.
I'm getting pretty pissed... Damn near $2 a gallon is friggen robbery!!
When Clinton was president and it went up .25 people were throwing fits.. It was ALL OVER the news. Everytime you turned on your tv they were talking about Clinton raised the gas prices by .20 to .25 a gallon.
Now its $2 friggen dollars a gallon. DAMNIT!
This is a RIP OFF!
But now the media doesn’t say anything.
But the media is all in a frenzy because a couple of locals were charging $5 for a bag of ice during a storm. The media wanted extra prison time for this 'outrageous gouging' of the public.
How many bags of 'gouged' gasoline go into every single Americans car every single day?
These gas prices are nothing but a RIP OFF and we should make the media report it!
Kelley
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Tue Oct-19-04 01:48 AM
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1. peak oil --it's happening |
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do the google search, buy a damn civic or a hybrid and laugh at the SUV/Hummer morons.
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KT2000
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Tue Oct-19-04 01:49 AM
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2. Regular - $2.09 in WA n/t |
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Tue Oct-19-04 03:05 AM
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10. $2.25 here on Mercer Island... |
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I guess they feel like they can charge Paul Allen a bit more...
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Tue Oct-19-04 01:49 AM
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I wish. In Ca bay area you're lucky to find the cheap stuff for less than $2.20
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KelleyKramer
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Tue Oct-19-04 01:52 AM
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4. Well good grief, are you pissed too?? |
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Damn, you folks have more reason than I do to be pissed off!!
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cyr330
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Tue Oct-19-04 01:52 AM
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It's now $2.53 here in San Francisco, and that is for REGULAR!
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Tue Oct-19-04 01:53 AM
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6. Thats all? Its $2.49 in San Diego! |
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Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 01:54 AM by maveric
Bastards!
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Presidentcokedupfratboy
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Tue Oct-19-04 02:15 AM
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7. Guess how much it is in L.A.? |
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$2.53/gallon. For 87 unleaded.
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Tue Oct-19-04 03:01 AM
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in L.A. we have that pesky liberal media like fox........ who needs gas when your'e out of work ?
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Tue Oct-19-04 02:37 AM
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8. Conditiioning the Consumer |
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I don't get it either - why isn't the price of gasoline a major issue?
The answer conditioning! Over the past year or so gas prices have risen sharpely. We are bombarded daily about news of a new oil price per barrel increase and have passed "the new record" point. Just last week I heard or read oil to go to $70.00 per barrel.
The conditioning works like this:
The consumers are subject to a constant feed about oil price per barrel increases. This is the main "reason" behind increasing pump prices. From time to time new reasons are thrown in - increased consumption in China, Iraq pipeline blow-ups, a refinery here an there goes down, hurricane Ivan, etc.
The price at the pump see-saws back and forth but in each cycle the avg price generally increases. This has been a gradual process over a 2 or so year period. Where I live the cycle runs generally on a Wednesday / Sunday calendar. Here's what it looks like, accelerated over time using hypothetical numbers:
Week 1 S-W - 1.65 per gallon Week 1 Th-S - 1.72 per gallon Week 2 S-W - 1.68 per gallon Week 2 Th - S 1.76 per gallon Week 3 S-M - 1.71 per gallon Week 3 T - 1.75 per gallon (on news an Iraqi pipeline blown up) Week 3 W - 1.73 per gallon Week 3 Th - S 1.79 per gallon Week 4 S-W - 1.76 per gallon Week 4 Th - S 1.85 per gallon Week 5 S-W - 1.80 per gallon Week 5 Th - S 1.89 per gallon (on news of a refinery fire) Week 6 S-W - 1.87 per gallon Week 6 Th - S 1.93 per gallon Week 7 S-W - 1.84 per gallon (Saudis promise more oil) Week 7 Th - S 1.89 per galon Week 8 S-W - 1.86 per gallon Week 8 Th - S 1.93 per gallon
etc etc etc (you get the picture) - over time you just get used to it.
Here's the other thing that makes me nuts:
The rise in the price of gas has risen along with the price per barrel for oil - this is the main driver. Now if the price of oil goes up X and this translates to a corresponding increase in gas prices of Y then how can the oil companies make "record profits"? Afterall the increase in one price causes the increase in the other price, right? Not in oil world!
The other excuse is increased consumption - basic supply and demand law - when demand increases vs the supply the price of an item increases - China is tagged as the big consumer stressing oil prices -must be because of the increase in "transportation and energy" due to all the "outsourcing" US companies opening factories.
So who controls the supply - not the US - but OPEC which is "guided" by our friends the Saudi's. To ease the pain every now and then our "friends" release a few extra million barrels.
Woodward actually busted the scam when he reported the "Saudi late summer Bush election bail-out" - so now the Sauds can't act "to save Bush" - so we the consumers who have been conditioned by the scam process will continue to bend over at the pump and take it, and to do so without much as a whimper. Well at least until after the election depending on the winner.
If Bush manages to get re-elected, I predict gas prices will go down but of course not to where they were a year ago - afterall the oil companies still need to make a "profit". But Dubya will stay be made a he-ro. Of course if Kerry wins, barring any governemnt or legislative intervention, the artificial inflation will continue to a "crisis point" and betting dollars to donuts the repuglickers will try to turn the issue on him.
Explains Bush and the republican's complacency doesn't it?
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Tue Oct-19-04 03:53 AM
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11. Somwhere over $5 a gallon in the UK, so shut up! |
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Worked it out the other day.
P.
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KT2000
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Tue Oct-19-04 03:47 PM
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Is the price difference between the UK and the US a result of taxes added to gasoline in the UK? The cost of the oil would be the same, so are the refinery costs higher in the UK? I am really trying to figure out this price difference. Thanks
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Wed Oct-20-04 03:38 AM
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18. Yes. Petrol is hugely taxed in the UK...... |
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And to be honest, I'm not that upset about it (unless they start increasing other road charges).
I think it's important that the government tries to persuade people to buy reasonably economical cars with decent gas mileage, rather than 6L SUVs.
Of course, some dickheads still do drive huge vehicles, but they have to pay through the nose for it.
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KT2000
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:43 AM
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politicians like to tell us how much better off we are with gas prices but it doesn't make sense if the only difference is in taxes. Taxes are raised through other sources and fees as well.
Anyone who drives one of those awful Hummers in my mind is a dickhead as are the drivers of the SUV's that are getting bigger and bigger.
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Tue Oct-19-04 05:15 AM
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12. And as the work man said to me. |
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How dare they only pay 25 cents in Saudi.He did not seem to under stand it was their oil. I was beyond my self.
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Tue Oct-19-04 05:17 AM
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13. The average here is about $2.15 |
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Busing is a drag but it beats walking and it's cheaper then buying and owning a car.
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BoX o BooX
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Tue Oct-19-04 03:54 PM
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15. I want $20/gallon gas. |
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And I drive 70 miles a day.
Hear me out.
My driving is necessary... no, not for commuting... for my job itself.
I drive an economy car ON PURPOSE. When the gouging stops, I'll get a hybrid.
Fuel prices in America are artificially supported. Only when people are required to pay what fuel is WORTH will they stand up and take notice.
Fossil fuels are destructive to the planet and are non-renewable. Gas should be MORE expensive than diamonds, not LESS.
This is a bogus discussion. The price of fuel today is irrelevant, when compared to the price that will be exacted upon us in the future.
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Tue Oct-19-04 04:18 PM
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16. People at my work talk about it all the time |
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That is because by most standards, they are low wage workers. Many of them also have double digit mile commutes each way. In rural areas, there is no public transportation and jobs are often a long way away. In some rural areas, there are no jobs aside from a few local service. Thirt to fifty miles commutes are often necessary if the two adults both have jobs.
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Tue Oct-19-04 04:54 PM
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17. I would be content paying upwards of $4-5/gallon.............. |
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if the average car got about 50-70 MPG. However, while the oil companies are calling the shots, any mandate towards more fuel-efficient autos will be severely downplayed.
Also, most of the newer, super-efficient cars are prohibitively priced. So much so that the majority of the folks on the road probably can't afford these responsible rides. Priuses and the newer Smart Cars will strictly remain novelties as long as they are priced as such.
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Wed Oct-20-04 05:40 AM
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20. Tell me asswipe* didn't know where that tax break money... |
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Would end up, back in fat rat hands.Hummers are much more than dick head rides,their a symbol of modern fascism.An implement of needless occupation, you might say.
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Wed Oct-20-04 05:46 AM
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Who is Sarah Freeman and why is she listed as the mother of James Freeman Bush (b. 6-15-1860) when his father, James Smith Bush, an Episcopal minister, was married to Harriet Fay in New York City in 1859 ? Bush and Fay were the parents of Samuel Prescott Bush, grandfather of #41. Methinks there is more wrong with the good reverend. The Bushes are hiding cousins in the family tree to conceal connections for shady dealings ?
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