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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:47 PM
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How horrible a person am I?
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 08:47 PM by thom1102
I was watching CNN and they were showing clips of people's responses to 9/11, and they showed Ted Olsen talking about his wife, and I thought "It couldn't have happened to a nastier bitch." It is bad to speak ill of the dead, but she was such a horrible nasty person, and her husband isn't much better, that I have a very hard time feeling sorry for them at all. To me, it just seems karmic. Does that make me a horrible person?

On edit, I am at least a horrible speller!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:51 PM
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1. You're Not Alone...
... and I don't feel guilty about it.

For the woman who could give Ann Coulter lessons... I have no pity.

-- Allen
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:53 PM
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3. Thank you!
I feel better now!
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:53 PM
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2. The fact that you even ask the question of yourself means you're not
a horrible person.

But you may want to spend some time with the question. If you'd like to have compassion for people who are loathesome, there are ways to work on it.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:54 PM
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4. You're human
Barbara Olsen was a hater. She was particularly vitrolic towards Hillary Clinton. She was a liar. And both Olsens were hypocrits. More of the "family values" types who led such self-absorbed lifestyles there was little left for Ted's kids...from his previous marriage, of course. Barbara was the much younger "trophy".Together, they did much damage. They sought to destroy other people's lives. No one deserved what happened on 9-11. Barbara Olsen was one of the unlucky ones. I wish she had done more in her life to help people and to enrich other people's lives. Instead she practiced the politics of personal destruction. Her death is a reminder to us all that we should use what time we have for healing and love. I wish she had followed that path.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:54 PM
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5. depends...
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 08:56 PM by leftyandproud
do you consider freepers who had similar sentiment during paul wellstone's death horrible people?

I do.


back at ya.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:01 PM
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10. Paul Wellstone (and I admittedly don't know much about paul)
Didn't ever promote the vitriol of hate against the right wing. He was a progressive voice, and disagreed with the right's policies, but he garnered the respect of his right wing adversaries, as evidenced by their appearance at his wake.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:54 PM
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6. No more horrible than the rest of us...
She was a heinous bitch. I'm not happy she died--no schendenfraude (or whatever) here. I have to say it's nice that there's one less shill to read--she was almost as bad as Ann Coulter. Olsen got himself a girlfriend right away, so don't feel bad for not feeling bad for him. Anyway, if there were such a thing as karma, I could thing of much better places for it to manifest.
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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:56 PM
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7. It's okay to be relieved when bad people have passed on...
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 08:57 PM by Patriot_Spear
You didn't make them that way and you didn't cause their death. Think Uday and Qusay- moral equvilants of the Olsen's.

Remember the words of Sun Tzu: "If you wait by the river long enough, you will see the body of your enemy float by."
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:00 PM
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9. Sun Tzu was wise indeed
I see the body of my enemy, *, every time I do a Turn-and-See® before flushing the toilet.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:00 PM
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8. Look at it this way
Ted doesn't care enough about his wife's death to be outraged, why would you care more?
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 11:49 PM
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11. stanwyck
You put it sooo eloquently. I agree 100%. You come from a real and still compassionate place suggesting that you wish she had chosen a different path. This is what freaks me out so much about the right wing and so-called Christianity. They, are, imho, the polar opposite of what Jesus would want and expect from his followers....once again....it simply make me shake my head in total disbelief. How sad.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:24 AM
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12. How Can Anyone Go Through Life
Hating hating everything and everyone?

With the possible exception of Asparagus....
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Davan Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:00 AM
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13. I refuse to HATE asparagus, bushies
and in-grown toe nails. This all is so much more complicated as you all know. I'm trying to wrap my scucci brain around but I can't remember my password. Boo flippin' hoo! BAH!
Anyway, carry on...
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:55 AM
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15. You're a rotten no good asshole bastard!
So what?

We still love you. :D

:hi:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:02 AM
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16. No...
Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 03:02 AM by Dookus
not rotten.

But I can take one day out of the year to mourn EVERYBODY who died that day.

She was loathsome. But I also know that in the larger sense, it's all a big game. I really believe that Olsen was capable of meeting Hillary and having a nice conversation. I think those of us on the outside overstate the level of personal animosity that exists in DC.

I couldn't stand her. But she died in a horrible way, and didn't deserve it.
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:27 AM
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17. It tolls for thee
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

Whatever she was, she was redeemable. Had she lived, a day might have come when she saw the light---and the errors of her thinking.

She did not deserve to die because she was unenlightened.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:19 AM
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18. But did she deserve to die because she needlessly caused people
enormous amounts of pain and suffering? Did she deserve to die because she fostered an atmosphere of hate and animosity? Did she deserve to die because she had no conscious?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:05 AM
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19. I think you're saying you thought she was a horrible person
rather than you are glad she is dead. I think the same. Barbara was as much a victim of the terrorists as all those people were on that horrific day. When I grieved for the victims of 9/11, I didn't make an exception for her. But I really did not like her.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:26 AM
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20. Karma, baby ... karma
She was a horrible, shrill bitch ... the world is a better place without her.

(Note to CP2K - please excuse my use of bitch!)
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