LiberteToujours
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:08 AM
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Anyone else freaking out?? |
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I'm getting so nervous about this election. I read this site for hours every day, just waiting for the tiniest morsel of news! Although I'm Canadian I have been following this American election as closely as any native, and I feel like it means as much to me as it does to Americans (because it is important in the future of the world).
I have to give a presentation for a class on Nov. 2 .. it's going to be so hard to prepare for it! I also have midterms and lots of assignments, I'm in my last year of university so it's very hectic but every free moment I have is spent on DU. Is anyone else as obsessed, neurotic and paranoid as I am right now??
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:10 AM
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I'm neither paranoid nor neurotic. Kerry is going to win this election going away. The Repubs don't have enough cheat in them to win. They'll also be surprised at the composition of the House and Senate - as will some people on this site. :)
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:11 AM
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2. No, But Good Luck Spreading Panic |
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:15 AM
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Wed Oct-20-04 05:18 AM
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:19 AM
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I know what you're thinking, I'm not a freeper. I was just posting my late-night ramblings, not trying to spread panic. But I'll wait until I have more posts and can be more "trusted" before I do so again.
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:30 AM
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8. well you won't freak me out |
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that's nothing compared to some of the posts i've seen here. and yes, i'm obsessed and a little shaky. but i truly believe we will win this :)
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:35 AM
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10. No one thought you were a freeper, at least.... |
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....I didn't. And no, you're not the only one nervous. I'm sure, to some degree, we're all anxious. Considering all the wacko's that are going to vote for him, and the fact that we're holding our breath that this thing isn't fixed, then yes, we should all have a little anxiety. Do I think Bush will get more votes? No. Do I think they'll do about anything to hang on to power? Yes. If that doesn't make someone nervous, they don't have a pulse.
As for your number of posts, don't worry about it. Its the points you make that matter. And, as one of our best said, "I feel your pain".
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Wed Oct-20-04 06:29 AM
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18. Not spreading panic at all |
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It is a legitimate feeling... I know I have it more the closer we get... Bush regime has mor emoney (accumulative) than Kerry and that (I believe) is what stole it for them before.... and over half of our own people for some reason do not CARE that Bush is a Nazi warmongering drunk... just so they can hold power...scarey stuff.
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:15 AM
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3. Hell yes, I am freaking out....I have a moccasin on my front porch... |
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About the election, I am cool as a cuke.
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:16 AM
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5. you got a what where????? |
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:19 AM
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6. Yup, a snake. Here's the earlier post |
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:39 AM
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11. Man, your are like soo... |
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...five minutes late! You haven't read the snake thread yet! :silly:
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:55 AM
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12. i always miss the good threads |
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Wed Oct-20-04 04:32 AM
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9. I just want it real real too |
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I am obsessed too. I guess its just disbelief! I can't believe that American people are stupid enough to be this divided when we have an obviously delusional man in the whitehouse. The man needs mental care! That kind of religiousity and egomania is very frightening.
The other things that are frightening is that we have a media that is not exposing things as well as they should. We seem to have lost control of the press and although I support the first amendment, I do not think that propaganda should be legal. ie, truth in advertising, and fairness laws should be used.
I am concerned about my nation and our collective future. I am hoping that we do change the makeup of the legsilature and the whitehouse before its too late. I've considered leaving and thats not really something I would have ever thought of doing.
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Wed Oct-20-04 05:23 AM
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Given the amount of economic integration, Canada is now a non-voting part of the U.S.- well, at least that's what my former boss in Toronto said some Ontarian big business owners told him at some downtown fundraiser around the time of the big Quebec referendum....
The meaning of this election- globally or domestically- is whether the U.S. continues to be run by people who think colonially or those who think Modernly knock them out (quite likely forever). The 2000 election showed we were almost there, this one should be the tipping point.
There are lots of fun details to this game and it appears as if any of them could matter. No people changes its Establishment lightly, and so- despite all the outrages- the macroscopic picture is that the race is tied. The detailed picture is that Bush has had to burn up all of his side's political capital in the past year and a half to achieve a tie. There isn't much left, if anything, to persuade the unpersuaded of his worthiness.
In the fundamental argument, Bush's side is now presenting the People with an enormous amount of evidence that the conservative Establishment is incapable of further service and utterly corrupt- by the means by which it is now trying to force this election their way, and by the hollow ends it pursues. It's exactly the opposite of the arguments he needs to be making- but can not.
In about four or five days we should know which way it all is moving and feel the outcome becoming clear. I think the subtle hints- the polls out of Ohio, the way Kerry is starting to form a 'transition team', the way the Bush team is getting a little silly and withdrawing from some states, the hollow Bush rhetoric- are that the Kerry side has concluded it will beat the Republican turnout and election skewing machinery decisively, and small signs are everywhere that some amount of fatalism has set in in the top tiers on the Bush side. The Kerry campaign is setting up an Election Day evening public event at Copley Square in Boston- no hotel ballroom for this one, that's not planning for a concession speech.
Think of it this way: even if Bush wins, the argument about his abilities and worthiness and plans/ideas (such as there are) is decided against him. It would be a Presidency without political capital internationally or domestically, doomed to implosion and hitched to a political base that has little or no future. A Pyrrhic victory.
So you can let DU go a bit. :-)
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Wed Oct-20-04 05:48 AM
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15. I read this site for hours every day too--it's a great fix for anxiety! |
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Even though you know you'll get the inevitable tut-tut if you express uncertainty, many many more people are ready to buck you up.
I know you can't come down here and volunteer for Kerry, but it's nice for ME to know that you care. But guess what--I just met a Canadian who moved down from Toronto, we were both working a John Edwards Town Hall Meeting. She can't vote, she says, but she's doing everything she can. There is an energy that energizes all of us...an almost spontaneous uprising of grass-roots feeling that we felt constrained from expressing in the last few years. It truly is remarkable. I think it can carry the day.
We wouldn't be human in we didn't get discouraged occasionally--or more pointedly, we would be like the "faith-based reality" folks who must pretend they have no doubt.
So buck up--this is an extraordinary time of the people. We haven't made a stand like this since the 60's, but we've found our voice again, and it's a powerful thing, and we are using it in full. We will be heard.
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Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 AM
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.... when you said, "So buck up--this is an extraordinary time of the people. We haven't made a stand like this since the 60's, but we've found our voice again, and it's a powerful thing, and we are using it in full. We will be heard." That is also one of the most positive things I'm taking out of this. This country hasn't been this polarized since the 60's. And thats not always a bad thing. Sometimes, it helps to clear the water in political terms. It has also heartened me about Liberalism. Liberals are getting proud to use that term again. A term we should never have let the other side define. We should always define it ourselves.
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Wed Oct-20-04 06:11 AM
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17. I wouldn't say I'm freaking out just yet. |
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I'm saving it up for after the election. I can just imagine how crazy things will be then. :crazy:
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:13 AM
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19. ditto.... I feel like I've had my life on hold the past four years.... |
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Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 07:16 AM by hlthe2b
And now is my one shot to get it back....This may sound like hyperbole to some, but I can assure you that it is not. If we do not boot this vile cabal out of the WH (and hopefully the House and Senate), I may well be in need of some major mental health assistance or at least emotional support!
But, I need to add that I feel optomistic about our doing so. But, I do feel like I'm holding my breath for a world record time.
And, it helps that we have so much strong support and deep attachment to our cause from Canadians and others throughout the world. Thank you for hanging with us so tightly.
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Wed Oct-20-04 08:08 AM
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so much is riding on this election
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