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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:28 AM
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12 hours it only took 12 HOURS-Yankees' collapse set to spark off change
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 11:29 AM by underpants
Okay not really anything concrete here but that headline was hilarious.

Awwww Georgie hasn't won a Series in 4 whole years (a 2000 pic)



Unprecedented Yankees' collapse set to spark off changes

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/baseball_usa_yankees


BRONX, United States (AFP) - The unprecedented collapse of the Yankees against Boston Red Sox is set to spark off major changes in the New York camp.

Unfortunately for Torre, or more likely general manager Brian Cashman, Steinbrenner is big on results. And the Yankees have not won a World Series (news - web sites) championship since 2000.

"We went to war (no you didn't a**hole), we will be back and somebody's going to pay," Alex Rodriguez said.

Whether that somebody is already on the Yankees' payroll remains to be seen

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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:34 AM
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1. "War?"
OK, that comment really offends me. Maybe A-Rod needs to shed his uniform, sign up for the Army and ship off to Iraq. He's scrappy, as we saw the other night. }(

I cannot believe he said that in light of how many soldiers we've lost. He is a petulant, spoiled brat. :grr:
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YankeesFan Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:38 AM
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3. It has nothing to do with the Iraq War
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 11:38 AM by YankeesFan
So because there is a war going on, baseball players aren't alowed to call a tough series a war? That's totally ridiculous.

It was a WAR. It was the biggest war we've ever fought. Curt Schilling BLED for his team. Jeter BLED for his team. A-Rod made a courageous move and swiped the ball out of Arroyo's hand before he could apply the tag.

Our players are American heroes, and they deserve medals and accolades.

How's that?

Sorry but I opposed the war, and I know you did too. So you come off as a bit hypocritical when you start using the soldiers as a weapon to bash the Yankees with. :eyes:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:44 AM
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5. I'm not bashing the Yankees
I'm making fun of a stupid comment that A-Rod made. I've never been a fan of his, including when he played here in Seattle.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:45 AM
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7. I'm siding with flamingyouth here
not Yankee bashing for me just a really DUMB thing to say. It wasn't a war it was a baseball game.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:49 AM
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10. Courageous????
You call blatant cheating and then bitching when you get caught courageous? It wasn't Arroyo's fault that Rodriguez couldn't produce when the Yanks started to choke! Yeah, you keep on living in your fantasy world where everything the Yanks do, including cheating, is ok. Gimme a break.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:14 PM
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15. This is rich...
A-Rod made a courageous move and swiped the ball out of Arroyo's hand before he could apply the tag.

So now we're using the word "courageous" to mean "blatant cheating"? Huh, kind of like the current administration, eh?

My theory: The Bambino watched from his grave as A-Rod broke the rules of his beloved game and said, "That's it! Curse lifted! Red Sox win!"
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:41 PM
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16. Someone nominate this for the homepage!
It was a WAR. It was the biggest war we've ever fought. Curt Schilling BLED for his team. Jeter BLED for his team. A-Rod made a courageous move and swiped the ball out of Arroyo's hand before he could apply the tag.

Our players are American heroes, and they deserve medals and accolades.


Comedy gold.
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YankeesFan Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:17 PM
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18. It'd be better than the crap posing as comedy on there right now
nt
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:19 PM
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19. Boy, you're a real ray of sunshine, aren't you?
Oh, I forgot. Not a lot of sunshine in New York today...
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:33 PM
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21. You're a right twat.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:37 PM
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22. LMFAO
:)
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jerseygirl Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:36 AM
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2. Red Sox win, Kerry wins
I am a Yankees fan and my disappointment at their abysmal performance has only been tempered by a theory I developed this week: The Dem convention was in Boston, GOP in NY; Kerry is from Mass.; the congressional candidiate I'm volunteering for in NJ grew up in Mass. All three are fighting against the belief that they can't win. Ergo, Red Sox win, Kerry wins!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:56 AM
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11. I pray that you are right
but I was rooting for the Cards to be in the series... not Houston. However, it would be an interesting pre-quel to the election.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:40 AM
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4. A-Rod was a waste of money. ONE good pitcher was all they needed
Pitcing is all nowadays. The Yankee management was asleep at the switch this year.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:45 AM
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6. A-rod, Giambi, Kevin Brown, et al
Throwing away money is what the Yankees do best.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:47 AM
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9. How many players do they have on their roster?
A friend of mine made this comment last year. When you watch a Yankees game every player is a familiar name. I didn't follow baseball too closely this year but I turn on their first series and OLERUD!!! I thought he retired!

How old IS Reuben Sierra?
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:07 PM
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12. Sierra is 39
or so they say. I think he went to high school with Steinbrenner. :)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:11 PM
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14. Old War Memorial stadium in Hampton
former home of the Peninsula White Sox (mentioned in Bull Durham)

Everytime I went to see a game there (and this was years ago) someone would mention that Reuben Sierra had played there. Like I said I turn on the TV a few weeks ago and REUBEN SIERRA!!!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:47 AM
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8. READ THIS
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 11:48 AM by WilliamPitt
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=second/guessing

This is the night the dynasty died. The mother of all choke jobs completed with a trouncing on their home stadium, with Joe D, the Mick (birthdate: October 20!) and the Babe watching on from center field. Yes, I know they're not buried there, but you can bury the 1996-2004 Yankees there.

This is an old team with a payroll that even Donald Trump can't carry in his wallet. Bernie is declining, Giambi may be washed up (with $75 million left on his contract), Posada is an old catcher ready for a rapid fall and while Mo is still tough to beat, he CAN be beat and they don't have the starting pitchers to get him the ball anymore.

Eric: You're right; the future is a big question mark for this club. Remember, they couldn't close the Randy Johnson deal this summer because their minor-league cupboard was so bare they couldn't entice the lowly D-Backs to make a deal.

David: Here's another area where I think George's greed backfired: Despite that $185 million payroll, he didn't have one good left-handed pitcher on the staff. Everyone knows to beat the Red Sox -- with Ortiz, Nixon, Damon and Mueller all worse against lefties -- you need a lefty starter and at least one lefty killer in the pen. But he was greedy and wanted Brown and Vazquez and Loaiza and Gordon -- oh, and lineup that went about 10 deep in All-Stars.

Eric: Right, and let's not forget the money spent on A-Rod. That's, at base, just a vanity pick-up, just a we-can-do-it-and-you-can't move, meant to crush Boston spirits. One player, one offensive player, even one as great as Rodriguez is, just doesn't make that big a difference. The money, as you say, would have much better spent on left-handed pitching.

The A-Rod signing was pure hubris, a perfect match for his taking their money instead of Boston's, a perfect match for his unadulterated greed.

And speaking of hubris, the Yanks invited this with having Bucky Dent throw out the first pitch ...

David: Look, I know Yankee fans can say they were a couple outs away from a sweep. But know this: the Red Sox scored more runs than the Yankees this season and allowed fewer. They were the better team.

Eric: Right. I wrote some time in midsummer, when everyone was saying that the Sox were dead, that the run differential suggested, records be damned, that the Sox were the better offensive team, and might only be victims of some bad luck.

Is it too much to wonder, too much to hope for, that the 2005 Yankees will look like the 2004 Mariners?

David: Well, they won't be the 2004 Mariners, but they have to be concerned. They already have $170 million committed in payroll in 2005. Essentially, every starting player except Lieber (who has a team option) is back under contract for next year. But none of them are tradeable and all of them are a year older. Logic says they'll go big after Beltran for center field and move Bernie to DH and George will want a first baseman to replace Giambi, if his career is over.

But that means, shoot, if you figure $17M for Beltran and, say, $11 million for someone like Sexson, a $200M+ payroll.

Eric: And notice that nowhere in all that math, do you have a solution to their biggest problem: pitching.

David: Exactly, which means they can't go after Beltran. It makes no sense. They're stuck with no-range Bernie in center for another year, $25 million worth of mediocrity in Brown and Vazquez, plus Mussina, who didn't exactly pitch like an ace this season. They're in trouble.


...more...
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:29 PM
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20. Interesting...
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:08 PM
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13. Steinbrenner, A-Rod: both $2000 * donors
Couldn't happen to a nicer bucha guys.

see the full list: http://www.newsmeat.com/
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:53 PM
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17. 4 years? I live in Chicago!
I'm more of a White Sox fan, but man, I can just imagine what Cubs fans would think of this reaction!
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