Royal Navy to allow devil worship by Satanist Sailor

[Chicago Democrat]

Royal Navy to allow devil worship
Sunday, October 24, 2004 Posted: 9:50 AM EDT (1350 GMT)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- A devil-worshipping sailor in the Royal Navy has become the first registered Satanist in the British Armed Forces.

Chris Cranmer, 24, a technician serving on the Type 22 frigate Cumberland, has been officially recognized as a Satanist by the ship's captain.

That allows him to perform satanic rituals aboard and permits him to have a non-Christian Church of Satan funeral should he be killed in action.

A spokesman for Britain's Ministry of Defence told CNN Sunday that it had a duty to allow members of the forces to practice their religion.

He added that the MoD was an "equal opportunities employer" which did not stop anyone having their own religious values.

"The Royal Navy allows this kind of approach because it is clearly in line with current regulations. We are not aware of any other individuals who want to be registered as Satanists."


http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/10/24/uk.devilworship/index.html

[Chicago Democrat]

1. And they have the Cannibalism relatively under control!

[mom cat]

2. The devil you say!

[Chicago Democrat]

3. Its a Dog's Life... err Its a Man's Life in The Royal Navy

:kick:

[Solon]

4. Hell the US Armed forces has had many Satanists in it for years...

I don't really see this as that big a deal.

[Chicago Democrat]

5. How fun!

Killing babies and virgins... Weeee!

[Zomby Woof]

6. I sure hope you don't believe that

Satanism has nothing to do with killing virgins or babies.

The US Armed Forces is full of christians, however, that kill plenty of innocent people, including babies.

My hat is off to the Satanists.

[Chicago Democrat]

7. Oh really? Satanist I knew gave their own child heroin in rituals...

and he was very fucked up and addicted with a big problems. Though he loves Satan. Another group near Eureka California is responsible for at least 12 murders, the last one a 15 year old girl who was skinned alive. That group are murderers and as evil as evil can be. That group is composed of mainly law enforcement and highly connected local people, horrible.

Satanist are dangerous and pathetic at the same time. The Church of Satan in SF is a joke that is not really that funny run by the people who the movie Rosemary's Baby is based on. That movie is based on real events.If you have ever lived in SF, you realise that that town has a great big blackness at the bottom.

The Black Mass includes Blood sacrifice, including babies and virgins.

So who would you rather live next to? A real practicing Satanist or say a Violent Drug dealer...

I'll take the dealer and you can have the Satanist.

[Zomby Woof]

12. I still hate christians

They kill lots of Iraqi babies and virgins too.

[Chicago Democrat]

22. Yes, sadly Bush is our #1 Christian baby killer...

And millions of other Christians...totally agree that Christianity has 10 Million times more deaths.

I don't really hate Satanists... I just don't want to be around them, I have lived with them. I knew a real Satanist.

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[Chicago Democrat]

9. What is most stupid about Satanism is that it requires Christianity

and the existence of God for its very basis. The Satanist I was friends with (we went to the same 12 step meeting) really hated God and Jesus. Satan on the other hand nourished him. The most problematic aspect of this "Religion" is a lack of any real positive aspect.

Its a fake religion, an excuse to engage in Sadism or be against Christianity, it defines itself by what it is against.

[Zomby Woof]

11. ah, the 12 steps

Say no more.

[Chicago Democrat]

13. He was in the 12 steps because his Satanist Parent gave him Heroin

when he was 11... During a "Black Mass"


And what's wrong with the 12 steps for heroin addict? BTW the Satanist used Satan for his "higher power".

[Zomby Woof]

14. be your own higher power

I gave the baby jesus heroin.

[Chicago Democrat]

17. That's what I did...

[Zomby Woof]

10. I love Satan

Christers give him a bad rep. Of course, it's all hokum anyway, but it is fun to get a rise out of jeezo-grovelers.

[Chicago Democrat]

15. I see 'its all Hokum" so you actually don't believe in Satan?

That's fine... But I can assure you that Satan exists and yes he runs Hell and that's a real place.

I don't believe in the traditional Christian view because I have actually been to Hell and was allowed to come back. I have also met with Satan and he's not at all what most people think.

From what I've been told is that people and all life re-incarnate. In life people either grow or regress, life is like a lesson and we start where we left off. Its why people remember past lives. Anyway Hell exists to "re-educate" people who have really gone way down the tortures are designed to impress the soul as to feel the pain it caused others. These tortures are all designed and executed by Satan and millions of demons, they torture us even in this world as a means to improve mankind. So Satan actually served mankind by torturing him to make the soul realise why those bad decisions harmed people by making that person "feel the pain". Satan (and God)are instruments of what in the east is called "Karma".

I would imagine that Edward Teller, for example, would have to feel the pain of all those that his nuclear bombs killed. I see him being incinerate over and over feeling the final moments of everyone in Hiroshima... etc..

Eventually the soul cannot learn anything more from Hell and gets bored... At that time, the soul chooses (or is allowed) to be reborn. There is life all over the universe, not just earth.

I think Heaven works the same way, except its a reward and a place of union. That gets boring too and the souls choose to be reborn.

I could tell you how I know this but you will probably just make fun of me.... ye of no faith. Do you really think what is visible is all there is? Do you really think that?

[Zomby Woof]

19. what I really think

Would get me in trouble with DU because it would break the rules.

I find your post most... illuminating. Not in a good way.

[Unstuck In Time]

21. How do you know this? n/t

[Chicago Democrat]

25. If I tell you are you going to make fun of me?

This topic has gone farther than I wanted to and basically I used Tibetan practice for visualisation along with shamen and various majickal and spiritual practices to "pierce the viel". Thus I can talk to dead people, angels and demons.

God doesnt usually talk to me directly and I think its wrong to this of God as a person at all. The Theosophist calls Him "The All" Lao Tsu called it "The Tao". Yahweh literally means "I am who am".

Angels, Demons, People, Cows, Birds, Plants, Rocks?, Thoughts? all are part of "The All" oh yes and Satan too.

Am I schzisophrenic? Or are you simply unaware? These things can never be proven either way. I am opening my heart and telling you these things for no other reason than I think perhaps it might help. If not, please discard.

[Droopy]

27. Well I don't think you are schizophrenic

I am and I can tell you that you probably wouldn't be able to express yourself in such a coherant and thoughtful way if you were suffering from mental illness. Some people who are ill and not being treated can express themselves well, but I think they are rare.

I think there are a lot of things out there that cannot be explained scientifically. Yet.

[kiahzero]

16. Perhaps those making unsubstantiated assertions regarding Satanism could

read up on the topic?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanis1.htm

I find their faith far too libertarian for my tastes, but at least I know what the hell I'm talking about.

[Chicago Democrat]

18. Le Vay's group is a joke

pathetic clap trap junk.

[Zomby Woof]

20. that's how many of us feel about monotheism in general

And christ-insanity in particular.

[Chicago Democrat]

23. Absolutely, I can't stand Christian Churches and Religion

They suck... They have little to do with Jesus or God or anything good. They are mostly about money and power.

I've tried to find the truth by examining all religions and texts. My latest book I bought is about the Gnostic Gospels. Apparently Jesus had brothers and sisters (older ones) and also had sex and there were female apostles.. All cut out by sex crazed nutcases in the 3rd century and Gnostics all killed..

[kiahzero]

26. Right, but they're hardly baby-killers

And note, the Church of Satan is, in fact, specifically mentioned in the article.

[Chicago Democrat]

28. They are the only "legit" group, they have a website

and a HQ in SF, and a newsletter.... blah blah blah.. They are the only organization to reference.

Now it is a "fact" that LeFay's group is the basis for the Rosemary's baby story... I mean not that they actually had Satan's baby or anything. I am not accusing them of anything.

Now the Satanist that kill people (like in Eureka) don't have websites for obvious reasons. They are fanatics and real and totally scary.

OK this is a second hand story...

A 15 yo hippy homeless girl comes into town and is totally desperate these 'nice people' take her in. Then she disappears. Then her body is found skinned alive. At the girls wake the 'nice people' come to the wake and bring a little drawing of a girl in the road sitting crosslegged, just like she was found. Noone is prosecuted. At least a dozen similar creepy murders over the last ten years.


Its the same county where Earth Firsters are constantly fighting Pacific lumber. Its a creeepy icky yucky county Humbolt.... Not at all nice except in Arcata. The police are corrupt.

[Lizz612]

24. Meh, whatever.

As long nothing illegal is going on, let people do what they want.