I found a great site to refute fundies claims against evolution

[Reverend_Smitty]

http://www.talkorigins.org/

It has just about every argument that fundies use to try and "prove" there is no such thing as evolution and appropriate documented evidence to refute these arguments.

I came across it while doing some research for my midterm in my bible class, it's pretty interesting, I just wish I had more time to browse through it.

OK back to studying!

[NoodleBoy]

1. yep...

check out www.evowiki.org too

both talkorigins.org and that are outgrowths of some apperently huge discussion that went on on the talk page of the "Origins" entry for wikipedia.

[qnr]

2. You can also find some really nice ones

on about.com

[HuckleB]

3. Hmm.

That's all good and well. But since they're talking myths, why not stay there? Why not simply recite a few Native American creation stories to them.

Besides, I don't think anyone's taken the time to refute those in writing yet. So they're bound to be speechless.

Uh, in fact, the couple of times that I've done it, they have been speechless. What can you do when someone tops you at your own game?

I do not mean any disrespect to the origins and peoples of these stories, either. In fact, I'm quite taken by them, collecting dozens of books of and about these wonderful myths, and I find fundies insistence on their version of creation as the only possible one to be quite disrespectful to them -- and not simply to what we now know about evolution and the origins of the planet and the universe.

[DrWeird]

4. Creationists use the same half-dozen arguments over and over.

Regardless of how many times they've been debunked, they keep using the same bullshit. Next time somebody says they doubt Darwin, ask them why and more often then not they use one of those handful of debunked arguments.

[gratuitous]

5. It's useful to have this information

Unfortunately, the true believers will fall back on some variation of "the Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it." As if God is playing some cosmic joke on paleontologists, biologists and other scientists, planting false information (right down to fossilized dino shit in fossilized dino digestive tracts) so as to fool the diligent. That God! What a prankster!

[CanuckAmok]

6. the problem with creationists, though...

...is like all other faith-based believers is that finding a way to continue to believe their dogma in the face of undeniable physical evidence is almost a badge of honour. It's as if the undeniable evidence has been placed there by God to test their faith. The stronger the evidence, the stronger their faith must be to deny it.

I had an aunt go all fundie once. She's a university librarian, and when she got all goddy, she simply 'unlearned' everything she previously believed to be true. All of a sudden, the Earth was 3050 years old, men had one less rib then women, and so forth. Thankfully, she snapped out of this and got back on track with 'reality'.