"i've waited my whoLe Life for a sox series win!"

[sniffa]

i for one, am sick of seeing coLLege kids (and younger) being interviewed by the LocaL news, saying they've waited their whoLe Lives for this!

if you're not oLd enough to remember '86 and buckner, then shut the fuck up.

[calico1]

1. I wonder if there is anyone still alive who remembers

or even went to the 1918 World Series? We were talking about that this morning at work. If you had been 5 years old and went to the World Series in 1918 you'd be 91 now.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

2. Look at Sniffa trying to pretend he's all old and shit.

I've seen your picture in the gallery. You're probably not even 30 yet either, you bastard!

[sniffa]

6. not pretending i'm oLd

i've aLso never uttered, "i've waited my whoLe Life for this" - i stand firm on my position that you at Least have been aLive during fisk's homerun to even think that phrase.

btw, i'm 29. ;)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. I can agree with that.

But that's not to say those of us around for Buckner haven't suffered enough.

[BOHICA06]

3. Now here's a guy whose waited!

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/10/25/worlds_oldest_man_cheering_for_red_sox?mode=PF

This guy was 3 years older than the Bambino when he was sold/traded in 1918

[skygazer]

4. I remember Carl Yazstremski

He was my first baseball hero. I've been waiting about nearly 40 years - I am almost dizzy with the realization that we are ONE game away from winning the World Series. I was up for hours last night digesting that fact and every time I woke in the night, my immediate thought was, "OMG! We're one game away!"

Between this and the election, my nerves are shot! I'm going to have to check myself into the local sanitarium to unwind!

[Magrittes Pipe]

5. If what you remember about '86 is Buckner, you don't know beans.

(get it? Boston? Beans?)

The goat's horns for '86 belong squarely on the head of Calvin Schiraldi. There's no reason that grounder to first EVER should have happened.

[sniffa]

7. beans is my nickname

reaLLy!

shiraLdi? how 'bout boyd, and nipper... and stanLey?

[Magrittes Pipe]

9. Ugh.

Total breakdown.

I still feel bad for Buckner, though. He should never have had to make that play. Never. 2 outs, 2 strikes, 3 times. Disgusting.

[Bill McBlueState]

8. and and and

There's no reason Boston couldn't have turned it around and won game 7. Buckner's error makes for a nice story ("They Would've Been Champions But For One Little Mistake") but he's taken a lot more shit than he should have over the years.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

12. If you know baseball, you know that wasn't going to happen.

Just like last year, I knew when Bartman grabbed the ball, the Cubs had no chance of winning that game. Baseball is very mental, and as soon as something like that gets into your head, it's over. Period.

[Bill McBlueState]

15. yeah... hmm.

There are a lot of examples of players letting things get to their heads. But these guys are professionals who have been playing the game for years. I just don't see how the entire team could get so flustered by a single error, and become almost paralyzed for game 7.

And it's been pointed out, they got a lead in game 7, so it's not like they just rolled over.

Maybe that's the difference with this year's Red Sox. Being the idiots they are, they don't even *know* you're supposed to lose when you're down 0-3, or when you've made four errors. So the mental game and the spectre of years past isn't so much of an issue.

[DelawareValleyDem]

13. Sox actually had a 3-0 lead

in Game Seven going into the bottom of the sixth and blew it. They also blew a 3-0 lead in Game Seven of the 75 series.

[trogdor]

22. October 22, 1975 at Fenway Park

  October 22, 1975 at Fenway Park II (Boston Red Sox)

                                 1  2  3    4  5  6    7  8  9     R  H  E
                                 -  -  -    -  -  -    -  -  -     -  -  -
    Cincinnati Reds              0  0  0    0  0  2    1  0  1     4  9  0
    Boston Red Sox               0  0  3    0  0  0    0  0  0     3  5  2

    PITCHERS: CIN - Gullett, Billingham (5), Carroll (7), McEnaney (9)
              BOS - Lee, Moret (7), Willoughby (7), Burton (9), Cleveland (9)

               WP - Carroll
	       LP - Burton
             SAVE - McEnaney

   HOME RUNS: CIN - Perez
              BOS - none

  ATTENDANCE: 35,205

[Magrittes Pipe]

25. Thank you retrosheet.org!

And may God bless Will McEnaney. :loveya:

[tsakshaug]

11. '67

Bob Gibson.
Unbeatable.

Yes I remember

[LDS Jock]

14. all my life?

gee that was only 18 years ago. I don't think you should use that phrase until your 40 anyway.

[kick-ass-bob]

16. Have you guys read this thread????

Son of Sam Horn board: Win It For


http://p086.ezboard.com/fsonsofsamhornbostonredsox.showMessageRange?topicID=14279.topic&start=1&stop=20

[sniffa]

17. i Love that board

the one that "convinced" schiLLing to come here.

do you remember sam horn? big turkey who hit a few dingers and was at best, average?

[Beer Snob-50]

19. thanks for the thread!

now I am sitting here with tears in my eyes and thinking of my grandfather who cursed me with my love of the red sox and never saw them win the whole thing.

[kick-ass-bob]

21. I saw it from a Bill Simmons article...

made me teary, and I'm not even a TRUE Boston fan!!

[49jim]

18. For my 100th post......

go SOX....I'm a die-hard national league fan....for ever....followed the NY Giants...Willie Mays....in the late 50's....and NY Mets since 1962...even during the All-Star games...however, I was so pleased to see the SOX smash the Yankees...I watched more Yankee games (play-offs) than I have in 55 years....anyway I have rooted for the SOX to go all the way...let's finish off the Cards tonight!

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. Perhaps they have. Does a 50 year old have more of a right to claim

that just because he/she was born first? I don't think so. If I have 17 Packer jerseys and my father (a lifelong fan) doesn't have one, does that make me more of a fan? I totally don't think so. Let them have their fun, just as you are. :hi:

[skygazer]

23. Consider this

My 18 year old nephew was born in '86. He's been a Sox fan for as long as he was aware. His father, my brother, and all our siblings have been Sox fans since childhood. My dad is a lifelong Sox fan.

It's generational. My nephew may not remember Buckner or Fisk or Bucky Dent's homer but he knows the stories - he's lived them vicariously through his family. He has every right to say "I've waited all my life" - he has. So his life's only been 18 years - so what? He has a generation of waiting in his blood.

I would imagine that many of those young people being interviewed have the same type of story. Are we going to start making cutoff ages for when you can or can't be a lifelong fan?

[sniffa]

24. yes - cut them off

to Live 70 years and not see them win it is one thing... to Live 18 years is another. i want them to feeL reaL pain before they make that statement.

if i were born about 20 years earLier i may have made that statement - at Least i wouLd have been at mid Life.

[skygazer]

27. Nonsense

That's bullshit elitism. I'm far more annoyed by the people who have never been Sox fans before this year but have suddenly become one because they have a chance to make (more) history. At least my nephew has sweated blood for 18 years - there are 40 year olds out there who are now passionately rooting for the Sox who haven't suffered a single season with us. I don't deny them their right to do so but I'd far rather see someone like my nephew interviewed than a fair weather fan.

[Redneck Socialist]

26. My dad was born in 1918

So I guess you could say he's been waiting his whole life for them to win another one.