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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:38 AM
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I have decided something today that I've been thinking about for a while
I have decided to intentionally cultivate more "in real life" liberal friendships.

I currently have about four VERY close friends who are liberal, my husband who is very liberal and my boss, bless his heart.

That's it. I do have friends who vote Democrat but are shaky. They are pissed off about bush, but they aren't liberals like I'm talking about. They just want everyone to get along, they just want to go with the flow. Fuck that.

I have been thinking about how I have been trying to talk sense into my republican friends for four years now. How I have warned them over and over about the neoconservatives and their agenda. But why should I bother? That agenda is obviously what they want.

I think of the guy who was poll greeting for the opposition last night and how he kept asking to me to explain to him why I am a Democrat. I said "why? Would it cause you to be one?" and he laughed and said "no!" So I said "so I'd be better off beating my head against that sidewalk over there, right?" and he said "What about if I told you why I am republican?" and I said "I honestly don't care why you are. See, I'm not a Democrat because I just don't know about republicans. I know all about you guys AND your party. I know what you believe in and I watch your actions as well as your words. And they are appalling. So I'm not interested in hearing why you are a republican. I will NEVER be one." He got all offended, then that's when he started hinting he had a gun on him and talking about homosexuals. Mother fucker.

I am going to cultivate more liberal friends, surround myself with them. And I am going to let go of any republican friendships I have left. They are superficial at this point, anyway, no longer very meaningful as they were a few years ago.

Screw "unity." They vote for people and policies that HURT my family, that hurt us ALL. So why should I give them comfort or friendship? Why?

The woman who was running for state house, who lost, wanted to clean up our air and water around here, she wanted to fully fund our schools, she wanted to not allow guns in schools (yeah the repuke incumbent voted to allow guns to be taken in schools), etc. But oh NO, we can't have someone good like her! We've got to keep the asshole who does nothing but tear us down.

Seriously. I would never discriminate against someone on the basis of things they cannot change--their race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, etc. But I CAN and WILL discriminate against people who choose to hold views that hurt me and mine. Who vote for people and policies that will be the undoing of this great experiment in democracy. Yep. Sure will. And no apologies, either.



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annerevere Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:43 AM
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1. I am tired of all the callings now that
we must come together as a nation and support our president. Does anyone think that Bush will stop his divide and conquer type of leadership? That he will do anything that benefits the middle class? That he will represent most of the people in this country? Of course not. So why should we support him as our president as he proceeds to wreck this country?

To heck with all the 'we must come together as a nation' nonsense. Doing so requires a president who will represent the interests of more than the ultra rich and corporations.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:45 AM
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2. Exactly
this is not a time for unity. All those calls for unity are really calls for good Democrats and liberals to roll over and play dead and screw that shit.

SCREW THAT SHIT.

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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:45 AM
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4. I am supporting our President. But his name isn't Bush.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:51 AM
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5. "..support our president.."
Yeah, like the Rethugs would be doing if the election was called for Kerry?

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:58 AM
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8. BLAM
EXACTLY. They wouldn't just ACCEPT shit.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:45 AM
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3. You and Mr. Moonbeam should visit Austin...
...grab FSC and Reprehensor, too...

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:57 AM
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6. My best friend and her husband
live in Austin, right off the 38 1/2 St. exit. They love it. She is now pregnant with three babies from in vitro fertilization. They live in an old 900 sf house just north of the UT campus. Wonderful rolling neighborhood, very liberal area.

Sigh. My husband is trying to talk his company into opening up an office in Austin (they have in San Antonio) and he would come down and open it up, get it going. It'd be hard going at first, but probably worth it. I am in education and am going to start work on a masters next semester so that will take me a couple of years. But after that, they should be ready to open an office down there and then maybe, fingers crossed, we can do and just live on antihistamine to deal with our severe allergies to cedar.

Your real estate prices are crazy, too, especially for where we want to live. Round Rock can kiss my arse.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:58 AM
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7. thank you- i couldn't agree more- well said!!
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:00 AM
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9. I was thinking exactly the same thing this morning....
and after spending many hours this summer arguing with a rethug "friend" also came to the conclusion that it is no longer a good use of my time and energy. I learned enough from those arguments to know it was pointless to be sucked into "conversation" with the hyped-up Rethugs pouring out of the Smirk rally in Mpls. last Saturday.

I also can no longer accept the people who can vote against a cure for my daughter's Juvenile Diabetes, just to protect cells in a petri dish.

Moonbeam...it's time to draw a line in the sand!
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