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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:31 PM
Original message
How lame is it to spend YEARS coming here pretending....
to be one of us so you can out yourself on election day? Need life much?

And all those bizarre posters last night. Shouldn't they have been some-
where celebrating the re-instatement of their demagogue, instead of
hanging here trying to....whatever the @%^ they were trying to do.
But they just had to come HERE.

Something I keep telling friends is that a big portion of the hostility
towards liberals on the parts of ditto-head/freeper types is jealousy.
We have Bruce Springsteen, they have Wayne Newton. Multiply that
geometrically.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:32 PM
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1. Drugs.....
I think they need some!

Or else they need to get a life.

Or else they were paid disruptors.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:36 PM
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9. You know, the "paid disruptor" theory....
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 09:38 PM by Jade Fox
just might be correct.

I remember reading awhile ago that the Bush campaign had paid people
to do that on boards like this and other places, if memory serves.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:42 PM
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16. I hope it's true!
:evilgrin:
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #9
46. I have heard the same things.


n/t
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:16 AM
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58. of course they are probably paid
they eat, drink and breathe money. aren't they chimpy's base? they often worship god and/or money, have no lives, and suffer from sexual problems.

they make me :puke: i'm glad DU skinner brought back the ignore feature! last nite was a lil rough.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:33 AM
Response to Reply #9
67. Count on it
I get my last paycheck on Friday.

:(
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:46 AM
Response to Reply #67
68. That sucks. Welcome to the club.
I never did get your CD, but that's OK. You'll probably need to sell all of your CDs for cash anyway. Maybe you can post some more of your tunes (mp3s) on your website.

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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:33 PM
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2. Has anyone " unmasked " ? Or been unmasked ?
I haven't heard.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:33 PM
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4. Ducttapefatwa
Seventhson
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:36 PM
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8. Is that for sure ?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:37 PM
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10. yeah it is
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Do you know how many times I got into it with Seventhson
during the primaries ? He was really viscious against Kerry.

Would love to see the post in which he unmasked. I guess we can't search now.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Go through the Lounge posts today, I think Wat Tyler posted it.
He made a big show of it, like we'd be shocked or something. :eyes:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #18
50. No shit.
What a big fucking suprise that was.

I fucking wept over it.

You got it right, blondeatlast.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. I remember how vicious he was against Kerry
awful, no I just heard about it.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #10
36. I refuse to believe Ductape Fatwa is a Freeper
I don't know the circumstances of the banning. I can see him getting banned for being too radical for DU. I believe he is somewhat of an anarchist, and not for Kerry, but even less for Bush.

Did he really and truly out as a real live Freeper, or did he just say something intemperate and get banned?

Also, does anyone have the URL for his blog?
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:56 PM
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45. I'm sure he posted trying to be too radical for the DU to break us apart
He was trying to split us up on wedge issues by being too radical. Don't you see?
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:01 PM
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48. Maybe so, but not because he's a freeper
I think he's just way, way, radical left, off into anarchy territory. I think he has a whole mountain of anger. And I think he's sincere, if also very sarcastic.

I believe he told the truth, at least as he saw it. I think he is a Thomas Paine-type rabble rouser.

I say all of this in his defense because I think he's written some very thoughtful and insightful stuff. And I'm not just willing to throw it away and say he was a freeper tool the whole time. Maybe he deserved to be banned; I don't know the circumstances. But he doesn't deserve the posthumous slander, like him or hate him.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:58 AM
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66. A voice of reason at last!
I find it a bit bizarre that all this lame posthumous slander is allowed to continue. Down in the I/P forum, we can't even refer to those Who Have Departed without getting our posts deleted...

Violet...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:58 AM
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69. IIRC he wrote a 14 part serial about becoming poor in the new economy
Seems rather elaborate for a person whose faking it.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #36
52. Hmmm He'd emailed me a long time ago when he thought
he'd been tombstoned here asking for more liberal forums to hang out on.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:19 PM
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25. Can you point me to the thread. I nailed Ducttape as an operative during
the primaries. After Kerry was the nominee, he started to become even more obvious. His every post was CALCULATED to divide the left. I started calling him David Horowitz.

seventhson's outing I would love to see, too. Gawd, he came here hating Kerry and then when he started pushing Dean...geez.

So, it also proves that some of us were RIGHT about those Rove operatives who were pushing Dean to take down Kerry in the primaries.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #25
33. PM wat tyler, blm
thast what I heard.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
40. ductapefatwa is a troll
shocked, i'm shocked

i can't get over the shock.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:33 PM
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3. Seriously, were there long time posters who were lurking Freepers...
...and outed themselves a the end of all this?

I couldn't help but notice all the disruptors, but I didn't realize we had a bunch of moles come forward.

Did that that seriously happen?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:34 PM
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5. Wow!
Someone outed themselves last night that was a long time DU'er? That's bizarre! Some people should really get a life! :crazy:
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:50 PM
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39. curiousgeorge, too, i think.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:34 PM
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6. I was just reading through some threads, thinking the same thing.
How lame is that? I mean, honestly, they were pretty easy to spot. I know some of us were high strung at times and got goaded into flame wars or whatever, but what was the point? It just is bizarre! I just honestly don't see what they were trying to accomplish. So, some of us were nice to them. Wooo! That showed us. Whatever, people. Honesly, get a life.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:35 PM
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7. Hey, they have Tobey Keith too! LOL
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:37 PM
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11. That was for real?
I thought it was a joke! Sheeit! Get a fucking life, eh people! I can't understand that kind of duplicity.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:40 PM
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12. Really not as many as you might think
just 3 yeaterday I believe. Disruptors really can't contain themselves for more than a couple of hundred posts. The whole thing is stupid really.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:41 PM
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14. Seem like ductapefatwa was around....
for a very long time. Also the other guy.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Who was the other one ?
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 09:44 PM by Kerryfan
Besides Ductapefatwa and Seventhson, I mean ?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:46 PM
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20. Apparently some dickless "rasagnol"
I am always on this damn site, and I never remember seeing that one, but there it is.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #20
28. Go to the gun dungeon..a few more people outed themselves
you can find the tombstones down there:

ErskineBowlesVoter also got the boot. Some of these people were obvious a couple years ago...
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2bfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:43 PM
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17. That is just plain sad.
Who would do that?
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. Ductapefatwa was/is a total
loser diseased fuck. After my first six months here I had to put that person on ignore, or whenever ignore became a real option.

I found it tragic that many WOMEN here thought that "thing" had something to say.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:35 PM
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29. so did ducttapefatwa
actually come out as a freeper o0r did he just get banned - they're not the same plenty of liberals have been banned over the years too.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #29
55. See above posts or PM an administrator n/t
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:26 AM
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61. actually the above posts don't say anything
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 12:42 AM by Djinn
except that some people assume everyone TS'ed is a freeper, that's just NOT the case, if ductape did a "tada I'm really a freeper disguised as a radical leftie Muslim" then fair enough, but he hasn't has he??

BTW - Admin's don't tell you why people get TS'ed unless they've changed a long standing policy.

PS - Ireally don't get why it's so awful that some women enjoyed his posts - I've read plenty of his stuff (here and elsewhere) and I've NEVER seen anything anti-women, not saying it doesn't exist mind you just that I've never seen it. This is why I'd like to see the thread where he apparently "outed" himself.

Edit - apparently some people's sensibilities are a little too delicate for the "discussion" nature of the discussion board
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:44 PM
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19. I just don't get it either...
I mean really, to spend so much time building up a large post count so you can say something nasty on election night and have a few people see it and then get banned seems about as stupid a waste of time as I can think of.

Earlier today someone posted some old threads from freeperville about people who had "infiltrated" the DU and had a "swell" time flaming people...one guy, I think Jacinto (I remember that assrag) even told them to start posting in the Lounge and start sympathy threads in order to gain some people's trust and how fun it was to watch the infighting start when he'd bait somebody and watch them come to his defense. Such elaborate behavior to me seems like borderline sociopathological, at the least. I mean, don't they have anything else going on in their sorry lives?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:23 PM
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26. So Carlos whatshisname was really a freeper?
I knew he was a jerk, but I never had the freeper aspect confirmed.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #19
27. So his sorry ass wasn't mugged?
Nice.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:36 PM
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30. No Carlos is not a freeper. The person at CU who calls himself Jiacinto
is not Jiacinto. I still keep in touch with the real Carlos. He is a moderate Democrat and a decent person who simply went through a very rough time. I didn't agree with him on many things but we found common ground.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:46 PM
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35. ok
I'm glad you posted that, I did not mean to smear a guy as a freeper just because I didn't like a lot of what he said. Plus as I'm finding out there are a lot of doppelgangers out there my hold on what I perceive as what is real gets shakier all the time...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #35
43. I hear ya..no worries... ;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #35
56. what's real is democracy is being dismantled,
the dickwads in Bush's Washington are human filth who must be deeply and humorously excoriated on a daily basis, and we have to wrest control of the voting process from Repubelickin corporate control. There's the only reality you need.

The rest of it, the naval gazing, the gnashing of teeth is comparitive crapola.
So we should do it quickly and be done with it.

Of course, we'll always have infiltrators who will try to guide us in worthless directions.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:11 AM
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57. Carlos went over to DailyKos, from what I understand.
Never knew what his screenname over there was, though I surf over there occasionally, but apparently he's well thought of.

He did have his moments, both good and bad. I actually felt bad for him, though he's not here anymore because he chose not to be.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:46 PM
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21. That was weird
I was beginning to think I was the only one who was perplexed by those odd posts. I suppose there are those who suggest that the rest of us should get a life, but to lurk and troll just to show up on one night and then disappear? These people have far too much time on their hands. What's scary, of course, is that they, too, can vote.

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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
41. Would anyone 'out' themselves for the purpose of going further
UNDERGROUND? :shrug:
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Dem_Loyalist Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #21
49. I was only able to peek in a few times during the nite
But I noticed a few off posts as well. I can not imagine why someone would want to be, what was it they called it? A "mole"? Thats just so creepy. I mean isn't that just weird and sick?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #49
59. It's not such a dificult concept if
one is paid and reports back somewhere with the purpose of using the general info toward some end.

But if not, I agree that it's just some super-screwy horseshit, a red flag for deeper personal problems.
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Dem_Loyalist Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #59
64. I had never heard of that before
What are they being paid to do? Spy on us? And to what end?
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:48 PM
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23. My thoughts....
Lame :boring:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:37 PM
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31. well you can only yank your dick so many times a day
before it gets sore..then you need to do something else.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:54 PM
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42. rotflmao
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:38 PM
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32. 4 more years
that'll teach em
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:40 PM
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34. The bulk of the disruptions on election night were not sleepers...
They were brand new users with names like "Ihateliberals" and shit like that.

It was the job of a hacker. All the topics had the same sarcastic flavor to them, yet different over-the-top usernames.

Insult to injury I guess. Sort of makes a person...vengeful!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:48 PM
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37. I'm waiting till 2008!
Then I'll tell all of you what I think of you! ;-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. well in 2008
I'll tell you what I think because I'll be legally drunk.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. you nut
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:35 AM
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63. Depending on how bad things get down here,
we may all be up north of the border with you so you can tell us in person.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:00 PM
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47. They feed off of hatred of the "other"
without us to hate they would have no purpose, no illusion of substance. We are their "raison d'être" they don't believe in anything other than hatred.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:55 PM
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53. It's exactly like a batterer and his victim
The best way to deal with verbal abusers is to disengage with them so that they don't get any reward for their behavior - the abuser feeds off the pain of others.
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:24 AM
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60. Man you are so correct about THAT - They are hollow men who feed off spite
Total losers...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:54 PM
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51. *lol*
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FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:00 AM
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54. Strange kind of person who'd want to do that
Come here and build up a high post count, I mean, only to "come out" later. I don't understand that kind of mentality - what sort of satisfaction do you get out of deceiving people?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #54
62. the satisfaction would be
that fellow nut-jobbers tenderly kiss your flabby pale buttocks for being such a genius when it comes to "fooling" people?
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:52 AM
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65. I don't know how they can stand it
I know that I feel sick just looking at free republic.

Once as a debate exercise I had to argue in favor of several hard core conservative issues and convince others that I believed it and that I was right. I could do it, since I know their arguments from having to counter them, and I did it well, but I just felt dirty afterwards.

They must be real gluttons for punishment.
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