terrya
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:12 AM
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Just join an ex-gay group, assholes. |
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Beyond all of the shittiness I feel, I'm trembling with rage over the fact that 23% of my "gay brothers and sisters" voted for Bush on Tuesday.
Just join an ex-gay group and get that self perceived filth out of you, you motherfuckers. Don't you fucking DARE be a part of this community.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:14 AM
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1. Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. I will assume they are like |
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a couple of guys I know. They are wealthy. They got their money and that seems to be good enough for them.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:16 AM
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2. I really think we need to form gay support groups. I think we need to |
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form a National Association for the Acceptance of Gay and Lesbian Human Beings...and slam it back in their everloving faces!!! I'm sorry, but I am really pissed off at my state for being such f-heads. We actually went to a county commisioners meeting to fight this sometime back and you should have seen all the fake Christians sermonizing at the podium. :puke:
Terry, I'm so very sorry. I never thought it would happen...and I am dissapointed with the large faction of gay/lesbians who voted for this ass as well. If the numbers they give are correct, which I find highly suspicious.
Hugs, Laura
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:20 AM
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10. Do you think this would help? |
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Don't forget that Smirky has broken a 50 year precedent and *never* addressed the NAACP.
How much credence would he give to a hypothetical NAAGLBT?
I suppose they could lobby-- and play good-cop-bad-cop versus ACT-UP for the media.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:27 AM
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15. If anything, I think it would perhaps illustrate to some of our more |
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fearful countrymen that there are truly more of us than there are of them. It's a start. Lobbying would be a good thing. Things like they are are just wrong. I always thought values and morality were based on accepting one's neighbor as oneself.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:34 AM
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20. I couldn't agree more |
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Especially your last point. What I'm feeling about this election is that it proves that the American impulse is to *export* morality-- that it's all about what we want *you* to do, rather than any burden or constraint we wish to impose on ourselves.
The short word for which is, of course, "hypocrisy."
Our commitment to democracy works similarly. We intend the Iraqis to hold an election in January, but we aren't worried about what they might think if the "dead-enders" in Fallujah can't make it to the polls without getting car-bombed. Just so they go through the motions and we can keep dealing with our second-favorite exile (since we couldn't seem to get them to hold still for Chalabi).
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:16 AM
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3. Had no idea there were so many self loathing gays. Guess stupidity |
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crosses race, sexuality and religious lines. How proud America is.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:17 AM
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4. I wonder if they think their money will protect them from the brownshirts |
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:17 AM
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but found that outrageous myself.. wish I could say something to make you feel better..we have a gay friend who voted bush for "financial reasons"... I think the one thing we see from this election is that people vote for irrational and misguided reasons.. If our populace was more educated and less hateful this would end..
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:18 AM
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6. I know an LCR who was so fed up with bush** that he stayed home... |
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couldn't bring himself to vote for Kerry.
I am still very miffed with him.
And the killer, is that he is not wealthy, though is a millionaire-wannabe. I guess he was projecting the benefits to him...someday.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:19 AM
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7. Well hell they were merely stating their preference for Dick or Bu$h! |
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It's sad but the Republicans encourage self-loathing.
Peace.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:20 AM
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8. I Wonder If Any Black Lesbians Voted For Bush. |
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:20 AM
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9. where did you get that statistic? |
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Not that I don't believe you, but I can't believe 23% of gays are dumb enough to vote for *
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:24 AM
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13. I got this from theadvocate.com. Their news digest. |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 09:25 AM by terrya
This is part of the article. Again, you can find it at www.theadvocate.com
As in 2000, more than 20% of gays vote for Bush
In a stunning development from Tuesday's election, George W. Bush did not lose much support from gay Americans--despite his hard right turn during this election year, his vocal support for the antigay Federal Marriage Amendment, and Republicans' successful passage of anti-gay marriage ballot amendments in 11 states.
The president received between 21% and 23% of the GLBT vote, about same percentage he received in the 2000 election, according to data from CNN and The Washington Post. Challenger John Kerry received a slightly higher percentage of votes from gay Americans than Al Gore did four years ago, according to the numbers--77% versus the 70% that were cast for Gore in 2000. As in the previous race, about 4% of voters identified as GLBT. Kerry picked up more votes from those who voted for independent Ralph Nader in 2000.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:21 AM
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11. where did you get that statistic? |
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just curious.
I had heard that it was more like 1 in 12, or 8%, but it may be higher in smaller cities and communities and/or rural areas.
Well, clearly homophobic conservatives don't have the lock on stupidity, unfortunately.
It's delusional: "I'm going to change the party from within".
More like, darwinian.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:24 AM
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:wtf:
We should find & tag those assholes
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:28 AM
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:31 AM
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18. or drop them from helicopters into... |
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in the middle of the backwoods of deep red southern states like 'bama and such & let them fend for themselves
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:25 AM
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14. Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders!! |
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It's hard to be shocked by anything, but gays voting for Bush are at least partially responsible for empowering people that systematically discriminate against them.
It's cause and effect. Empower Bush & Neocon fundies. Be part of a crowd that bans gay marriage in 11 states.
Bush's great lie is that he makes it "us v them," so, no matter what he does to "them," it can't then happen to "us." So it doesn't matter that he's a fucking lying sack of shit, because people believe that he must be taking care of "us."
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:29 AM
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what % of the jewish, communist, and gypsy vote did hitLer garner?
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:32 AM
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:57 AM
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23. there were plenty of groups |
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that thought they could use Hitler's popularity to push their own agendas, and they all ended up at the wrong end of a stormtrooper.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:35 AM
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They ought to commit suicide and write in their notes -- every last one of the idiots -- "I am filled with self-loathing. I have such severe internalized homophobia that I voted for Bush. At least I have the courage to end my miserable excuse for a life."
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:07 AM
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between 21 and 23%. The story is at the Advocate's news digest.
That percentage should have been ZERO. There's no fucking excuse for that ignorant, selfish bullshit. Pure self interest. The rich faggots only care about their goddammned tax cuts.
I don't like using the word faggot, but I don't care right now.
www.advocate.com.
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:11 AM
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26. Did you see Angels in America on HBO? |
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I'm straight and it was my first insight into this complex issue.
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Thu Nov-04-04 09:57 AM
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22. You gotta be kiddin'? |
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:04 AM
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24. I have a gay friend who voted for Bush... |
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Because he couldn't 'vote FOR Kerry'.... couldn't talk him out of it. Really, really can't understand it, either. He doesn't like that Kerry voted for DOMA... like Bush is better?!?!
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