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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:03 PM
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Worldwide U.S. Presidential Election Results 2004:
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:11 PM by Misunderestimator


(On edit... hey fellas, it's a joke)
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:05 PM
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1. What's that part of South America that's red?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:07 PM
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6. Hmm... Looks like Uruguay
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:09 PM
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10. Uruguay just voted in a Liberal leader
You can put them in the blue column now
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:10 PM
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13. Hey... I didn't make this... leave me alone
;)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:37 PM
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15. I will NEVER leave you alone
You're stuck with me so deal with it honey!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:09 PM
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11. That HAS to be a lie
They just elected a leftist President!!! DAYS ago!
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:05 PM
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2. excuse me
but california is a blue state and that is about the only thing I feel good about right now! ;)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:06 PM
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5. Well... I think it is a country by country approach... We're all in this
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:09 PM by Misunderestimator
together ;)

(Edit: Except for Canada which seems to be by province)
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:09 PM
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9. yeah...
I wish there was some sort of a rally or something.

I feel like I need to be around a bunch of people as devastated as I am ...can't belive how quiet it is everywhere.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:05 PM
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3. This gets me even more mad
What a fucking bunch of stupid mother fuckers we have here in our "country"
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democraticrevolution Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:06 PM
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4. Howard Dean for Chair of the DNC


http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/deanfordnc

Click on the link above to view the petition then sign it if you wish.



Howard Dean for Chairman of the Democratic National Committee


By Jason Gooljar




It was a solemn day the crowd gathered around the stage where the candidate was to give his concession. Smiles were on the faces of some, while tears fell from the cheeks of others. Rhythmic applause could be heard erupting from the people all in unison. No, this was not the election night of November 2nd , 2004. This was Howard Dean back in the winter about to end his primary bid. For some this moment can now be looked back on as the day we really lost the presidency to our own party.


It has been said "When you trade your values for the hope of winning, you end up losing and having no values -- so you keep losing." The truth has never been more clear than it is now. We must strengthen the newly found spinal transplant of the Democratic Party. We must now take a stand with our democratic values in tow. First, I'll tell you what we should not stand for anymore. We can no longer be a party who has to move to the center. The right has never had to do it and neither should we. We can no longer be a party who is beholden to special interests. No more of the big money donors, there is a better way. Raise the money from the grassroots.


We need real campaign finance reform. We need to be the party of inclusion and the party of the poor and the middle class. We need to go to middle America and talk to them about what we stand for. We need to show them that we truly have their interests at heart. We need to go to the evangelical Christians and have a real discussion about America. We need to have a real discussion of religion in America. We need to re frame the debate from our perspective and not reinforce the conservative frames already in place.


When Goldwater lost, his backers did not give up. Goldwater actually lost badly. We have not been greatly defeated like they were. It took them forty years to build the machine they have in place now. We let them do it while we snickered at them and laughed at them for being extremists who would never hold power. They continued to work and they continued to organize. They started winning locally at the state level throughout the middle states and then they went national. They threw the moderate republicans out in favor of the new conservatives. There is much to learn from our opponents indeed.


As we rebuild our party we must keep some things in mind. The neo conservatives do not have absolute power. There were millions of Americans who voted against this President. We still have the power, you still have the power. We as the progressive movement can no longer be afraid of losing. In order to win you must loose. As long as you keep your values when you loose you can continue to fight on. If you give them up you have nothing. Either we as the democratic party stand for something or we stand for nothing at all. After all why vote for a right wing lite party when you can vote for the real thing as middle America did.


Terry McAuliffe's strategy had major flaws in my opinion. The tactic of a shorter primary in my opinion was not a good idea. We could have used the time to truly prepare our national agenda. We could have used that time to allow our democratic ideals to take forefront in the media. Chairman Mcauliffe is an incredible fund raiser this has been said but he lacks the vision to take this party in the direction it has to go. It has also been said that his agenda did not truly involve the south.


With all of this being said I'm asking the people who voted against this President to ask the DNC to elect former Governor Howard Dean as the new chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Howard Dean has a clear vision of where this party needs to be headed. We need his guidance to achieve our goals as a progressive movement. If we loose in the interim if we stay together as a movement we can shoulder the losses and eventually trumpet the wins. I'm asking for the people to write letters to the media and call elected officials in the democratic party to push for election of Howard Dean as the new chairman of the DNC.







Jason Gooljar <jasongooljar@optonline.net>
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:12 PM
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14. Are you the new Grovelbot?
:) Not a bad idea though... the DNC needs a shakeup.
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:08 PM
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7. ahem
they have washington red. WRONG.
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:08 PM
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8. What's the source of this?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:09 PM
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12. No idea... someone sent it to me (it's a joke)
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