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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 11:23 PM
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30 years ago...
It had been several years since Star Trek had been canceled.

I turned on Saturday morning TV, eagerly awaiting, "Star Trek: The Animated Series."

They got most of the original cast, James Doohan was superb as more than just Scotty, and "M'Ress," a gorgeous cat-like alien, voiced by Majel Roddenberry...(sigh)

Good writers, (including Larry Niven!) I guess I could look past the shitty animation. :-)
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gyopsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:21 AM
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1. What ever happened to Star Trek?
I think it's popularity has waned in the last decade or so. Not as much enthusiasm for it as there was back in the early 1990s for the 25th anniversary. I lived TNG and Voyager but thought Deep Space Nine and Enterprise were weak.

The franchise needs a jump start. Most of the plotlines seem hackneyed and dated.

I never got to see the animated series from the seventies.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:37 AM
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2. That is what happens when the writer and creative force dies
Just ask the imbicles who keep trying to make James Bond films without Ian Flemming.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:51 AM
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3. DS9 and Voyager had the same problems
The writing on DS9 wasn't that great until TNG went off the air, and the writers that had been doing great work for TNG were able to focus on DS9. DS9 got a lot better pretty quickly after TNG went off the air.

Same thing with Voyager--the writing wasn't that great until DS9 went off the air.

Deep Space 9 just had the extra problem of being the middle series--TNG ended and Voyager started up right afterwords. DS9 hadn't been that great in comparison to TNG when it started, so most people (I think) wrote it off in the 2 seasons that overlapped with TNG. TNG ended, and Voyager started the next season, so the Trekkies who had already written off DS9 started watching Voyager as though it were the only series on air.

Enterprise's problem is that the year is 2003, and the things that would really make for a great series aren't the things that make for great ratings, especially on UPN (and the music sucks). They have the opportunity to explore so many things in the Star Trek universe, but can't because ratings pushed them into the "Delphic Expanse" with the new commando team and T'Pol taking her top off.

None of the 5 series were bad. Some were better than others, and all 4 series that ran their course have had some episodes that were absolute gems. I don't have a TV when I'm at school, so I've only been able to see a half dozen episodes of Enterprise. The true fans will watch, and the fair-weather fans will lose interest. I just hope
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 05:08 AM
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4. what happened.. bergman and braga screwed it up
Tng was so good, ds9 was REALLY great too, but as many agree it didnt pick up until season 3 or so but then it was great. Then it went downhill, voyager with uber janeway slaughtering borgs who were invincible in tng. Ent.. ohman Bergman/braga has no clue, they are turning it into a half assed action series, nothing to do with star trek NOT to mention they are breaking continuation to bring in viewers.

They need to end ENT NOW and check out William Shatners series proposal.. say what you want about this guy but he LIVED star trek, he still writes books and he actually CARES about star trek. Bergman/braga just do it for the money
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