New group: Childfree DU'ers?

[Missy Vixen]

Hey evilDU'ers,

Just curious -- would you be interested in a group for those of us who aren't having kids? A mission statement is forthcoming if there's interest.

If you think it's a great idea, sign up!

Julie

[Zomby Woof]

1. yes ma'am!

:D

[Nimrod]

2. Already a member of VHEMT

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. All you do to join is decide you will not reproduce in the future. :)

[ret5hd]

3. would we get to...

gripe about all the "breeders" snagging all the good holidays while us childless couples have to work, kids making a scene in resaurants, theaters, etc?

[Cobalt Violet]

4. yes

We have issues. We a discriminated against. What good is a child tax credit if you don't have any.

[Modem Butterfly]

5. Absolutely!

We're not interested in children - the dogs are allergic to them!

[Lizzie Borden]

43. Now THAT is the only thing...

I've laughed at since the election. If you knew what my life was like and how it revolves around animals, you'd be laughing too!

[meow2u3]

6. Not only child-free....

but also spouse-free and mate-free. But that's just me.

[barb162]

45. I'm in. sounds good.

[Mist]

7. I'm on board

But not interested in dissing parents (if anything, I feel a tad guilty about my child-free life).

[ikojo]

63. I'm sorry you feel guilty about not having children.

I feel absolutely NO guilt. I never wanted kids.

I don't think it can be guaranteed (nor should it be guaranteed ) to be a rant free place. People who choose not to have kids do need a place where they can talk amongst others of like mind. Some are given a hard time by their families for choosing to be childfree (thankfully that was not my experience, my mom already has 15 grandkids she really doesn't know that well).

[Politicub]

8. Great idea

Count me in.

[7th_Sephiroth]

9. Fuck the children

i wana drink, gamble, smoke, and have a hooker or 2 in my car

[helnwhls]

25. are you trying to start up the woody allen thing again?

:)

[7th_Sephiroth]

29. i think soong-yi was an adult

barely

[woofless]

10. There are ups and downs to aging.

One of the ups is not having little ones around all the time.

[Philostopher]

11. I might just drop by, on occasion.

It would be nice to discuss these issues with fellow liberals -- I have tried hanging out and reading posts on CF sites before, but somebody always has to jump in and tell you that liberals enable the 'cult of baby' with social programs, as if kids who are already here had a choice in their births, and it's their fault things are what they are in the world.

[Deja Q]

12. I'm hip!

Don't have kids. Don't want kids. Lack the emotional capacity to raise kids.

[Lady Effingbroke]

13. me too, HypnoToad!

Count me in!

[BuddhaGirl]

14. I'm in!

Hubby and I are child-free and perfectly happy about it!

[Cerridwen]

15. I'm in.

To have children or not should be a conscious decision, in my never very humble opinion.

:evilgrin:

[curse10]

16. Yes- we should probably make it clear that it's childfree by choice

:D

[REP]

72. Yes - No "TTC" Posts

or tips on how to buy this year's hot fashion accessory, an infant Chinese girl.

[Missy Vixen]

17. Alllllrighty, then!

Childfree by Choice DU'ers, coming right up!

Is there anyone out there that would like to help construct the mission statement?

;-)

Julie

[Modem Butterfly]

21. Any idea how to find the group?

:shrug:

[graywarrior]

18. Sign me the fuck UP!

When I was 8, my grandmother asked me how many kids I was gonna have when I grew up. I said "none". After getting a gander at my family, I knew I didn't want to continue that bloodline.

[politicat]

19. Please!!

Count me in...

Pcat

[dancing kali]

20. Yes,

please.

Wonderful idea.

[Gryffindor_Bookworm]

22. I'm in! (nt)

[helnwhls]

23. child-free by choice

I understand the that biology and hormones and choice drive many to believe that breeding is the pinnacle of human existence. That does not mean that I agree.

[Athletic Grrl]

24. Count me in!

Childless by Choice and loving it.

[Hans Delbrook]

26. Right HERE!!!!!!

Child-free and loving it! We're hard-core - we're Catholic and we're still child-free.

[DancingBear]

27. We're in!

Married almost 30 years, and nary an ankle-biter in sight.

[FizzFuzz]

28. I'm in!! Pro natalism drives me nuts!

my overpopulation stickers piss people off.

Hey, I pay school taxes and have to help cover at work for the leaves granted to those doing their damnedest to expand the human burden on the planet.

And I'm tired of not being able to voice a "kids piss me off" sentiment without being dive bombed by the self appointed "everybody must love babies and must bend over backwards to make allowances for parents" police. Yechh. Plus, the way this society worships the motherhood trope, no wonder so many people with no parenting skills do it because it will get them attention and make them virtuous. OOOOoooo I could go on. Please count me in!!!

[miss_kitty]

30. Hey! I'll never have kids

If i have one more asswipe tell me I don't know shit about kids, I'll knock that crap outta 'em. I USeD to BE one and I still remember.

[Heddi]

31. yes! yes! yes

:)

[Robeson]

32. Yes, please.

[politicat]

33. Mission statement rough??

Okay, here's something to edit....

The mission of the DU Childfree Group is:

To discuss all topics pertaining to the conscious decision to remain child-free. Topics will include but are not limited to, economics of being childfree, legal issues, lifetime planning, discrimination on the job, natal family issues, population control and contraception.

To help DUers understand that being childfree is not necessarily a denouncement of choosing to have children, but that the choice to bear children must be a conscious decision and the educate others on the benefits and costs of being childfree.

To provide a place for DUers to discuss all things childfree and to enjoy all things childfree.

[Shopaholic]

37. I'm interested

that's for sure!

[curse10]

41. excellent! I like it!

:D

[Cerridwen]

46. Good job. -n/t

[Missy Vixen]

48. Politicat, I like it!

If there are no other objections, I think we should go with the above. Good job!

In the meantime, hopefully the admins will turn us loose in our own group soon.

Julie

[Behind the Aegis]

49. YES!

You have my support too! I love the mission statement! GREAT JOB! You get a "gold star!" Although, it seems this group already has plenty of support!

[BuddhaGirl]

54. nice job!!

I like it :-)

[sleepyhead]

34. Oh please sign me up too! n/t

[Scout]

35. count me in!

child free by choice here

[Blue in a Red State]

36. Hell, yes!

Even though I can't participate 'cos I can't afford a star right now, I'm behind this all the way!

[Anarcho-Socialist]

38. Count me in!!

[TeddyKGB]

39. "Unmarried America Group"

http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/

I'm in...maybe forever.

[American Tragedy]

44. I hear ya Teddy

Not married, and I don't have a significant other either, which wouldn't be so bad if other people didn't seem to find that so fucking unbelievable and disturbing. If just one more concerned older woman asks me if I'm 'okay', I think my head will explode.

[Kat45]

40. I'm in.

Another topic to include on the list is the effects of policy decisions, particularly in regard to taxes, on the childfree.

[Lizzie Borden]

42. Excellent!

Childess by choice!

[bliss_eternal]

47. Yes, Please!

I would LOVE that! Let me know...

On a board I used to frequent, there was a childless by choice area. It was fun for a while, but because it was a 'chick' board someone would always sneak in and tell us, "you may change your minds...I felt the same way--UNTIL i was blessed with my child", blah, fuckin' blah. It got old.

I'd like to go on record as NOT a child hater by any means. But when you are childless and a couple, socially it is tough. There are times when we HAVE to ask to be seated in an area w/out any. Sometimes the host/hostess smiles and nods in an understanding way. Other times they look at you like you are satan or something.

Yeeesh! LOL!

[the Princess]

50. YES please!

:)

[wickerwoman]

51. Yes! We could even call it the "Adult Group"

:evilgrin: Just kidding.

Would it also be open to people who don't dislike kids on principle- who may one day plan to adopt- but who think it's socially irresposible to actually make them yourselves?

[enigmatic]

52. I'm in..

my wife are child-free and very, very happy w/ that fact..

[fidgeting wildly]

53. I'm in!

I have often wondered if there were other evil childfree DUers out there. Glad to see there are so many of you! :hi:

It will be a few more days before I can donate to DU (the Kerry campaign has all my money!) but I can't wait to join you there.

[zanana]

55. Yes, on one condition.

That we not insult people with kids.

[Zomby Woof]

58. sorry

That's half the fun right there. Some parents SUCK, and if I can't call them breeders or moos or whatnot, the group won't be half as cathartic as it needs to be.

[FizzFuzz]

59. I'm with Zomby on this

If we could voice our anger at the social pressures to have kids and to hold up some pious "all children are wonderful, and all parents are blessed" crap without getting blasted by the parturition police who feel a need to jump in on every venting thread, we wouldn't be gunning for a group of our own.

[ikojo]

64. It's a CHILDFREE group....I don't want to talk about kids...

I don't want to hear about kids. I think some parents ARE bad parents and should not have had kids...we should have a right to rant about bad parenting we see out there in the world. Just because we do not have kids does not mean we do not suffer the effects of very poorly thought out breeding and parenting skills.

Just because someone has spawned does not a saint make them.

[chiffon]

56. Childfree DUer checkin' IN---Oh yeah!

Don't like em, don't want em, don't miss em.

lol

[Hello_Kitty]

57. Count me in for sure. n/t

[Kire]

60. ABC

Anybody But Children

[Missy Vixen]

61. Okay, I think the mission statement has been approved

I will contact the admins and ask if there is room for our group!

Julie

[ikojo]

62. Absotively posilutely!

I was once on the childfree.com e mail list but was booted off because I was on AOL at the time and my e mails were being sent in html even when I set the mail program to send them as plain text.

So happy to be away from AOL!

[ikojo]

65. Description of childfree.net group

http://childfree.net

We are a group of adults who all share at least one common desire: we do not wish to have children of our own. We are teachers, doctors, business owners, authors, computer experts - you name it. We choose to call ourselves "childfree" rather than "childless," because we feel the term "childless" implies that we're missing something we want - and we aren't. We consider ourselves childFREE - free of the loss of personal freedom, money, time and energy that having children requires.

[WinterStorm]

66. Do pets count as children?

?

[achtung_circus]

74. Children are for people who can't have pets.

Or children are just pets, with tuition. BTW I'm in.

[politicat]

67. Has our group happened yet??

EOM

[REP]

68. Hell Yes Sign Me Up

I've got the ultimate body modification - tubal ligation and uterine ablation. Talk the talk, walk the walk, have the branding to prove it!

[Blue Gardener]

69. I'm In! N/T

[GingerSnaps]

70. Do you mean

If you want them or If you don't have them?

[REP]

71. ChildFREE = Don't Have Them and Don't Want Any, Ever

ChildLESS is wants children but can't/doesn't have any. We are ChildFREE! Some of us are fertile, some are infertile, some are sterilized (like me!) but we all do NOT want children EVER.

As I recall from your posts, you are childless - you don't have any now, but would really like to have children. You might not feel comfortable in a childFREE group.

[GingerSnaps]

73. The only thing about it now is

* has changed the world and I am not sure if i would want to put anyone through what we are going to end up with in a few years.

Can you imagine what it is going to be like in 20 years after a * reign and then if the machines aren't fixed by next time the rethugs will completely destroy what's left of this country by putting Arni in.

I'm having second thoughts about it but I know what you mean and you are right. Thanks :hug:

[REP]

75. We Do Recruit!

If you're not sure, then by all means, join the ChildFree group and we'll tell you all the great reasons for being childfree - personal, social, environmental, etc.

If, though, you just don't have children now but plan to someday ... this group might not be the best fit!