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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:04 PM
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Saturn Devouring One of His Children!



Saturn Devouring One of His Children
Goya


I really like this painting because of the way it bluntly
portrays the circle of life, and, when pushed, how far things
can go. This is a painting of the story where Saturn hears his
fate. He learns that the only way he can die is when one of his
sons kills him. He does not want to live his life in fear, and is
very paranoid, so he is forced to do the impossible. He starts
eating his children. This painting shows him eating one of his
children.

This whole painting is very dark and drab, like "May
Third," and also does not emphasize the background - but yet
uses it to emphasize the god in the foreground. There is a use
of only basic, dull colors, typical of Goya. He draws the god
as a man, yet in him has a twist to communicate to you how
he is not human. He uses the man figure and the size of the
child to make it look, in a odd sort of way, like an average
man having to eat his son for him to survive, and you feel the
cold, you feel disgusted and hollow, because at heart you
know it is possible, even though you tell yourself it is a made
up story about a god.

http://www.jordan.palo-alto.ca.us/staff/lgoldman/public...
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:06 PM
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1. disturbing, and that's supposed to be art? n/t
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:11 PM
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3. Would YOU like to hear your fate?
Gods have a tendency to overreact.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:18 PM
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4. That's the American Public Eating their Children
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:19 PM by autorank
The ultimate human sacrifice, the lives and safety of our children:

they did it in Viet Nam;
they do it every day with polution, poverty, and crime;
they're doing it right now in Iraq.

Why, because we're not going to take any shit and it's good for business! I f'ing love Goya. H

How about a taste of "The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters."

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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:42 PM
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6. Its madness
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:50 PM by TorchesAndPitchforks
We eat our children in our perpetual quest for global dominance. We rational humans are no better than the gods we tried to replace. What unknown horrors lurk in our future?

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:05 AM
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7. Gracias Senor!
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:09 PM
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2. Joke's on him though, because Jupiter kills him anyway.
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:10 PM by tjdee
Rhea gave him a rock to eat so he wouldn't eat Jupiter, and that's the one he should have been worried about.
(oh, and in the Greek Jupiter is Zeus, Saturn is Cronus... I think Rhea is the Greek too?)

It's always interesting how mythological characters try so hard to get away from their destiny they end up running right into it.


Great pic, by the way....Goya really has the eyes right. Creepy.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:22 PM
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5. Richard Serra 'redid' the image last year by
putting Bush's face on the image...

Sculptor Richard Serra also has turned to the Internet. He illustrated a poster titled "Stop Bush" that features a haunting drawing of a hooded prisoner from Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison. Another poster injects Bush’s head in the macabre Francisco de Goya painting, "Saturn Devouring His Children."

Serra, a minimalist considered one of the world’s greatest living sculptors, has placed the images at www.pleasevote.com and encourages their download.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1014-04.htm
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Sleepysage Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:07 AM
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8. Right...
It's about power, and the ugly lengths some will go to hold on to it.
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BlueHandDuo Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:12 AM
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9. Avert your eyes now...
...it's a god-eat-god world out there.


Ooof!

Hey, I tried to warn you.

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