Anyone have any words of wisdom or support 4 me?

[bliss_eternal]

I just went down in flames on behalf of members of an on-line community I was helping with. A Repub got 'offended' that many of the threads were entitled things that seemed to paint the GOP in an unfavorable light. WTF? It's the 'news' area of the board. What the hell else are things going to be titled? They are in charge of things right now... Hello?!

Anyway, I tried to defend the rights of the many other posters to express themselves and for the information to exist. She got all uppity, saying just by entitling threads the way I had I was flaming her. (yeah...right, I did it just to piss her off). Then she went on to say that what we were posting wasn't true or factual at all, and we needed to change it. Again, WTF?

Even after providing links to websites, articles, etc. she went on and on about it just not being true. This member went on and on to the point of being rude, disrespectful and nasty to me. It really pissed me off that they took it all personally and I told them so. That her right to be upset didn't outweigh the right of the community at large to see information she may not agree with, etc.

My biggest beef at this point is the fact that I took it on the chin for the community at large while no one else backed me and told her to go Cheney herself.

Why are people so afraid to stand up to Repubs sometimes? Why can't Repubs recognize facts as such? Instead of blindling denying the truth that is staring them in the face?

Now I am also mad at myself for wasting my time supporting a community that didn't support me in turn... :(

[IronLionZion]

1. keep on keeping on

and screw those guys. Try using the exact same wording as the news source you got it from. That would be fair. But you have to feel bad for the Republicans, most news about them is bad!

[bliss_eternal]

8. LOL! True...

... I did try to be empathetic. Sadly this person couldn't see the forest for the trees.

Oh well.

[NightTrain]

2. Fair-weather friends.

There's even more of 'em in cyberspace than in the real world.

Best I can say is, you'll find much higher quality people at DU! So stick around, OK? :pals:

[enigmatic]

5. Oh yeah,,,

I know what that's like..

[bliss_eternal]

7. I will! And thank you...

...you're right. I'm frustrated, because people have said I was doing a great job. But yet no one would say a thing to this person.

As much as I believe in defending the rights of others, I'm not into being used.

[wtmusic]

3. No one backed you

that sounds very familiar. Don't expect anyone to go out on a limb these days. People are very afraid.

Well hopefully it wasn't a complete waste of time -- you learned you really can't count on anything back when you volunteer time and effort.

[bliss_eternal]

11. Good point, thank you for it. I can't expect anything back.

...and shouldn't. I gave of my time and effort freely.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

4. Too bad they're more concerned about their image than

their substance.

This is why the truth is so excrutiating to them.

[eternalburn]

6. Words of sympathy....

....

Once upon a time I belonged to an online gaming group and got daily emails through our list. Sometimes people would send through non game related stuff, jokes, news stories, personal rants, whatever. Most of it was pretty mild.

One day an email came through written by one of the members that I disagreed with- something to the effect that Americans should all speak english and worship the same way.

I responded to the contrary and was told "to shut up and if I didn't like it I could move to another country". No one in the email list backed me up and I had been what I thought was a well liked long time member in good standing.

At that point I decided I didn't want to be associated with people who supported that line of thinking, plain and simple. I quit the gaming guild, removed myself form the email list and have never looked back.

Any wisdom gleaned from this : Sometimes you really don't know people the way you think you do no matter how experienced you are in life.

[vinnievin777]

9. No please don't let it get you down

I do so many things for so many people as well. And 90 percent of them are just takers.So I know where you are coming from. But it is the 10 percent that truly need your help and the good that you do-it's that 10 percent that appreciates what you do and that offsets the other 90 percent.
You just keep doing what is right and everything will fall into place.
I have found that people can surprise you.
One more point is people are going to have their views no matter what and the best way is for you to let facts speak for themselves. Most times people will not admit you are right but if you give it time they may admit they took a different route to the same conclusion.

Thats my two cents.

Vinnie Vin
http://www.vinnievin.com

[The Doctor.]

10. Link to it?

Just curious....

Even after years of study, I am still amazed at the capacity of people to ignore the obvious.

The facts are on the Liberal's side lately, so I am too.

[bliss_eternal]

12. I don't have a link, but...

...it was about reproductive rights. Some other members were upset by some of the 'buzz' about the gop and shrub wanting to eliminate reproductive rights for women. This person jumped in and said that wasn't true, and that each state controls these rights, not the White House. Several other members pointed to the facts--I backed them and provided some links as well.

Initially the person defended herself by saying she didn't vote for that aspect of Shrub. Others told her you don't get to pick what you vote for---it's a package deal. That seemed to upset her, so then she became intent on shooting holes in what we said. Every link I offered to an article she just stubbornly (and kind of childishly) insisted was not factual or true. What is a fact if an article or website citing the information isn't one?

She even went on to say it wouldn't happen because pharmaceutical companies make too much money from birth control to alleviate it altogether. It was just so ridiculous and tiresome. It was like watching someone Jewish defend Hitler and the Holocaust. It was beyond any sort of rational thinking to watch a woman go on defending the very entity that has made it abundantly clear the direction they want to go with this.

[elfrangel]

13. Did you hear ....

about Pharmacists refusing to fill the birth control prescriptions on "moral grounds"? WTF?!

Evidently there are some on the market that perform "mini abortions", specifically, the Morning After Pill. So, pharmacists are refusing to fill the prescription.

Here's the kicker, YES pharmacists are allowed to do this, BUT they MUST give back the prescription. Some are not giving the scripts back to the patients so they can fill them elsewhere.

I will try to find a link, but I heard it on the local news the other night.....SCARY!!!!!


EDIT: added link below.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-11-08-druggists-pill_x.htm

[AndyTiedye]

15. Not Just Morning-After Pills. The Other Ones Too!

They've been refusing prescriptions for The Pill too.

When they do this, they also seize or destroy the prescription itself,
so the patient cannot take it to another pharmacy.

Thus they force the woman to miss her pill for perhaps several days
while she goes back to her doctor for another prescription and then
tries to find a pharmacy that will fill it.

[bliss_eternal]

17. Welcome to DU elfrangel! And yes, I heard that...

...the link you provide is one of the ones we offered this woman. She obnoxiously stated that no where in the article does it say this is because of the GOP or because of Shrub.

Um, hello?! Do you need to be a neurosurgeon to read between the lines and realize that they feel comfortable taking these sort of stands because of the climate created by this administration?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

14. Sounds like an on line community I left for good about a month ago

and I will never go back. Sounds EXACTLY like the attitude of the repubs there.

They suck. That's because mean people suck and repubs are mean, nasty people.

[bliss_eternal]

19. At least I am in good company of other Dems leaving on-line

communities. LOL!

Hi Moonbeam! :hi:

The truly retarded thing it seems that there are more liberals in the community than R's. Even a couple of conservatives contacted me saying this person sucked, they didn't want to see me go, blah, blah. But no one (with the authority to do so) seemed willing to tell her to knock it off directly--to her face.

Oh well, their loss.

[jdj]

16. the only encouragement I have is that if

you post the name of it here you may get some reinforcements.

[bliss_eternal]

20. I appreciate the thought, thank you!

But I couldn't in good conscience do that. LOL!

The bottom line is I can't be a moderator if when I tell someone that they are out of line the other admins. don't back me on that. Now there are others on the board that have seen that and may be afraid to post dissenting views for fear of coming under this person's Repub. wrath. It's like her perspective and feelings matter more than any one else's because no one else will stand up to her and say so.

She undermined my ability to do my job and now I won't be able to do it at all. Total water shed moment.

[Lanky Craig]

18. i post at yahoo sometimes

its like a racists killem all hate fest.

[skygazer]

21. Don't be mad at yourself for doing the right thing

You could look at it as a waste of time but I see it as an instance of a number of people showing their true colors. You showed yours by coming to the defence of others - don't become so jaded by the acts of others that you become them. Sometimes it seems thankless and non productive to do the right thing but the bottom line is - it's always worth it to do what is right.

And when it becomes apparent that no one is backing you up or appreciating the gesture, you do what you did - step back and chalk it up to experience. No sense in continuing to try without support - but the important thing is you tried.

:grouphug:

[bliss_eternal]

22. Skygazer, thank you!

You're so right! I tried, that's what's important. Now I can move on, knowing I gave it my best effort and their board isn't the best match for my efforts. Lesson learned.

Thank you for your kind words and wisdom! :)