Alabama and Southern DU'ers. If someone can help this freeper please do

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/983893/posts

SON IS MISSING!!!!!!!!!HELP!!!!!!!!!!

This is my first post. Please forgive me, I'm not sure I'm doing this right. I've never posted anything, anywhere, ever. Last week on the 11th, my husband and I were in Point Clear, Al on a golfing vacation. We received a call from our daughter-in-law that our youngest Son, (her husband) had left that morning and had not returned. They have two of our Grandchildren. Their two boys are, Cameron 11, and Connor 4. He had left to run some errands and said he would be right back. We don't even know where he went that day. We have not heard from him at all. Neither has any of his friends or other family members. His messages on his cell phone have been checked and saved or deleted. He had only a few dollars in his pocket and no clothes are missing. He had left his phone charger at home, so his cell phone has not been used since last Friday, the 12th. His messages are being checked by land line. T-Mobile has been wonderful to help us trace the towers to see where he had been calling from. All have been around our City of Birmingham. Yesterday, the 15th we got a call from the Police Dept. that someone had attempted to use his debit card at a very questionable area of our City, for an unusual amount. It was declined. They did not have much money in the account as it was right before payday. They are a very loving younger couple. The Pelham, Alabama Police Dept. Detective, is Richard Stricklin, ph. 205-620-6444. Our Son's name is Richard Haynes, 34, hgt. 6 ft, wgt 180. He is tanned and dark blonde hair. He was wearing grey dress pants grey taupe shirt. The Shelby County, Alabama Sheriff's Dept. phone is 205-669-4181. Chris Curry is the Sheriff. They have viewed one of the video tapes and couldn't make out the image. Why don't they get decent equipment or just forget it? The law enforcement is treating this as maybe foul play. This is breaking our hearts! It is hard for me to convey this agony we are feeling at this time. We just want to know he's alright! Please, if you are in our area, and see his 2001, white Ford Taurus, lic 58D437W. Alabama plates. Please call either of these numbers. He is very much loved by all who know him! There are many, many people praying for him. Not only in our Church, but all over the State. My Husband and I believe God has him in His Sight! He is our Father, and we can go to no other for the peace we have at this time. Richard has been gone for five days now! His wife and oldest son are so broken and so are we and his brother, and his family. He has simply disappeared. He is a lover of Alabama Football, is an ardent supporter and Coach and SEC Recruiter. I have been on this site for years now and I know you folks are all over the place. If anyone can find him, you guys can. God Bless us all, and God Bless and keep safe, our precious Son!


1 posted on 09/16/2003 7:44 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim
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To: LadyPilgrim

This is my first post. Please forgive me, I'm not sure I'm doing this right. I've never posted anything, anywhere, ever.

Last week on the 11th, my husband and I were in Point Clear, Al on a golfing vacation. We received a call from our daughter-in-law that our youngest Son, (her husband) had left that morning and had not returned. They have two of our Grandchildren. Their two boys are, Cameron 11, and Connor 4. He had left to run some errands and said he would be right back.

We don't even know where he went that day. We have not heard from him at all. Neither has any of his friends or other family members. His messages on his cell phone have been checked and saved or deleted.

He had only a few dollars in his pocket and no clothes are missing. He had left his phone charger at home, so his cell phone has not been used since last Friday, the 12th. His messages are being checked by land line. T-Mobile has been wonderful to help us trace the towers to see where he had been calling from. All have been around our City of Birmingham.

Yesterday, the 15th we got a call from the Police Dept. that someone had attempted to use his debit card at a very questionable area of our City, for an unusual amount. It was declined. They did not have much money in the account as it was right before payday.

They are a very loving younger couple. The Pelham, Alabama Police Dept. Detective, is Richard Stricklin, ph. 205-620-6444.

Our Son's name is Richard Haynes, 34, hgt. 6 ft, wgt 180. He is tanned and dark blonde hair. He was wearing grey dress pants grey taupe shirt. The Shelby County, Alabama Sheriff's Dept. phone is 205-669-4181. Chris Curry is the Sheriff.

They have viewed one of the video tapes and couldn't make out the image. Why don't they get decent equipment or just forget it? The law enforcement is treating this as maybe foul play. This is breaking our hearts!

It is hard for me to convey this agony we are feeling at this time. We just want to know he's alright! Please, if you are in our area, and see his 2001, white Ford Taurus, lic 58D437W. Alabama plates.

Please call either of these numbers. He is very much loved by all who know him! There are many, many people praying for him. Not only in our Church, but all over the State.

My Husband and I believe God has him in His Sight! He is our Father, and we can go to no other for the peace we have at this time.

Richard has been gone for five days now! His wife and oldest son are so broken and so are we and his brother, and his family. He has simply disappeared.

He is a lover of Alabama Football, is an ardent supporter and Coach and SEC Recruiter. I have been on this site for years now and I know you folks are all over the place. If anyone can find him, you guys can. God Bless us all, and God Bless and keep safe, our precious Son!


2 posted on 09/16/2003 7:47 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (www.wardsmythe.com)
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[davidinalameda]

1. keep it kicked

sounds like someone went out for a newspaper and didn't come home

wonder when the divorce papers are being sent to the wife

[NNN0LHI]

5. As a parent I would be worried shitless too

I will keep an eye on the tread at FR and see if he turns up. Could you maybe ask Skinner or Elad to pin this one for a while? I hope it is not nothing bad for this poor woman and her family. Damn.

Don

[Yupster]

12. Similar happened near us

A guy from small town in East Texas went out to 7-11 to get milk. Never came home. Within an hour his wife was frantically calling family and whole town was helping the sheriff looking for him. Son drove home immediately from hours away.

Turns out he was on his way to my town. A guy had killed someone, and was on the run. He needed to change cars to get away. The shopper asked him if he needed help, he carjacked him and had the guy drive him all across the state to his girlfriend's house in my town where he'd let the guy drive back home.

On trial, the guy admitted he felt real bad when he killed the guy but he knew too much to let him drive back home. He killed him, put him in the trunk and drove him to a stream near an oil well and dumped him. He felt bad again when he heard him moan when he dumped him in the stream, so he shot him again.

The family wanted to move the trial from my home county because our town has had a history of not giving the death penalty. The family had no need to worry as the jury came back with death almost immediately. The guy just gave a big interview for the local paper from prison saying how bad he feels that the guy died for no good reason.

This just finished a month or two ago.

I hope in this case it's just a runaway husband. Church tonight - I'll ask a prayer for the young man.

[proud patriot]

2. I hope he's okay

and makes it home . The family must be
going crazy with worry . My best wishes
and positive thoughts being sent this families
way .

[phillybri]

3. Kick

:kick:

[buff2]

4. Oh,how awful!

One can only imagine what this man's family and friends are going through.I hope they find him soon....and safe.I am sorry to hear this sad news.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

6. Hey edit your headline to say Alabama and Southern DU'ers

in order to call their attention to this since it is possible he is in the area or may have been seen by someone.

[NNN0LHI]

15. Done and thank you n/t

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

18. You are welcome and KICK!

You did the right thing posting this. Liberals have hearts! :thumbsup:

[gristy]

7. Sad to say, but people go missing all the time.

They usually turn up. Also, NNN0LHI, sometimes (often? - I don't know) these kinds of stories are pure fiction. Did you call the phone numbers in the freeper post to confirm? It's possible that you will reach a harried individual saying "Man, our phone's been ringing off the hook today - NO, that story has no merit". But, maybe not.

Regardless, a world-wide discussion board probably isn't the place to post a local missing persons case.

[NNN0LHI]

13. I just called the sherrif and he is missing.

Sorry if I shouldn't have posted this here.

Don

[JHB]

29. No need for an apology

If it's a real case (which it apparently is, since you checked) there's no harm is speading the word.

[RobertSeattle]

8. But would there be a news story out about this?

Or are missing persons still pretty low key unless it its about a pretty young blonde girl?

I did a google news search on "Richard Haynes" and didn't see anyting.

[Room101]

9. Kick for a fellow parent

I would die if my son was missing.

[myrna minx]

10. Kick

I hope he returns home soon.

[wryter2000]

11. How awful.

I hope he's found alive and well.

[T Wolf]

14. why in the world

would you waste time and bandwidth passing along this trash?

Someone who puts their search for an AWOL hubby on the nazi-website is not worth it.

We should drop everything to help locate another drunken yahoo repuke?

[NNN0LHI]

16. I am sorry. Got to go to a doctors appointment now

Ask the mods to delete this if you wish.

Don

[Isome]

19. Despite what we may think of their politics or their methods...

It's impossible not to see the humanity of someone in pain.

[Dookus]

20. A woman...

posted this about her missing son. Just because you don't like the website she chose, she's going through hell and anybody with a little bit of human decency would put aside partisanship for a goddamned second.

Oh... and welcome to DU. Grow a heart.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

21. Right back at you

Why would you waste time and bandwidth to express your disdain for someone being a good citizen and helping to locate a missing person?

Don is a liberal with a heart..he did the right thing...you are simply spreading hatred from the left rather than the right.

[salin]

22. Cold.

I so, disagree.

Other people deserve or empathy - regardless of their political belief systems.

One never knows who will see a picture - and have it jolt some kind of connection (something seen, etc.)

My concerns to the family members of the missing young man. May things resolve in as safe manner as possible.

[Robbien]

23. This is the kind of post that lurkers on this site

will pick up and say look at the kooks at DU.

Nevermind that this thread will be filled with hundreds of caring posts, this will be the one used against us.

[T Wolf]

24. if you want to willingly

participate in your own demise, go right ahead. But do not include me in your hand-wringing.

You may not have noticed, but we are in a war and the other side does not play fair, or nice.

You are acting like the Jews in Europe who calmly loaded themselves onto the trains. Don't make a fuss. Be polite. Help them out.

When will we EVER learn?

[Name removed]

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[T Wolf]

30. JHB

I was replying to those who were attacking me and separated it from those who were actually trying to help the freepshit.

Besides, if the original poster here wanted to "help out" he could have just put the photo and said something like "keep your eyes open for this missing person."

But no.....

It had to have the heading "help this freeper" and have the whole, overly-long, unformatted post from FreeRepugland.

And I may be a bit strong in expressing my views, but I am really fed up with the regime, with most Dems who will not fight back, and with those who think that we have to play nice.

Playing nice gets you killed.

[salin]

31. Most of us don't think that this post

has ANYTHING to do with the political fight. Hard to imagine how expressing concern would "get you killed".

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

34. Your views aren't strong nor rational, they are toxic .

Please explain in detail so I can see the thought process involved how helpng to locate a missing person is tantamount to JEWS aiding in their own demise. Please keep in mind that my relatives were those Jews and one of my aunts is one of the children of Shoah (i.e. Nazi medical experiments.) For you to use such an inflammatory example and as a result MINIMIZE those exterminations only discredits you and underscores the hatred you are coming from in posting this.

[MnFats]

37. so, the value of this guy's life is dependent...

...on where he sits on the political continuum?
oh, he's a far-right winger. tough hop, let him get croaked?
wait, he's a couple of notches closer to center....still too conservative, i ain't looking for him...
at some point pat the precise middle is it okay to worry about him or hope for a safe return?
if it turns out he was some neophyte KKK dupe, do we cheer if he's found dead?
this discussion is disturbing.
help 'em out. end of story.

[Dookus]

38. Plus...

imagine the Freeper response if a DU'er helps find him. The cognitive dissonance would would make them spin themselves dizzy.

OR... it might point out to them that we share a common humanity which trumps our political differences.

Either way is fine by me.

[ScreamingMeemie]

47. Are you for frigging real? And if you are, I hope you are not MY

neighbor.

[Name removed]

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[coda]

28. You don't know anything about the missing man's politics.

As if that mattered.

"....acting like the Jews in Europe...."

LOL Thanks for the laugh.

[T Wolf]

32. So,

you think the exterminations that occurred are laughable?

Now, that is disgusting (to quote Dookus).

And Dookus, if you think that the difference is just a matter of marking a piece of paper (or pressing a voting button) differently, you have a rose-colored view of politics as it exists now.

There is so much at stake. And rather than fighting amongst ourselves, we have to keep an eye on the real enemy. For if we do not hang together, ...

[Dookus]

33. a missing man,

father of two, is NOT the enemy.

The enemy is the type of intolerance, hatred and blind bigotry that people like you espouse, on EITHER side of the political spectrum.

[VOX]

50. Concise and eloquent, Dookus. Perfectly stated.

Thank you.

I hope for all the best in this distressing situation. We all have our differences, and they are significant, but in the end, when we're in trouble or in pain, all we have is each other.

[yankeedem]

42. I'm willing to bet

That members of your family are right wing. Every extended family has them. Try putting the shoe on the other foot and think about what you would feel if someone called your missing relative the enemy.

And as far as fighting against "ourselves", you aren't speaking of the people of DU. You're lack of interest shows us that you're not "one of us". Come back when you get some humanity.

[coda]

44. T Delay owns the copyrights to "Hand-ringing".

Why fill his coffers? :shrug:

"you think the exterminations that occurred are laughable?"

Nope. Not that extermination or any other.

It was you equating concern for another human being (that you inexplicably assume to be a drunken yahoo repuke/freepshit/enemy) to some kind of naive behavior that will get us all killed on the scale of the holocaust, that did it.

The fact is those kinds of horrors occur precisley when human beings jettison their ballast of empathy for others. That's how it all begins. I don't know anybody who considers empathy a suicidal tendency. :-)

" And rather than fighting amongst ourselves, "

No "fighting" occured until you attacked Don's empathy for another human being (" drunken yahoo repuke/freepshit/enemy ").


It was the woman's first post.

"This is my first post. I've never posted anything, anywhere, ever. "

She isn't even a poster there. What she is, obviously, is a frightened and desperate mother.


Don was appealing to the "better angels of our nature". I don't mind and neither should you.

[prolesunited]

35. Umm...

Maybe because we're human beings with hearts and know the true meaning of compassion. I hope everything in your life goes perfect and you never need any help from anyone, especially if they didn't agree with your politics.

[Iris]

36. yes. That's why I'm a Democrat.

And if being concerned about my fellow man is going to get me killed, I'd rather be dead.

[Booberdawg]

40. Jeezus Christ this makes me sick

And angry. Very angry. How utterly cold and heartless. This isn't about politics - it's about a missing person and someone's life.

Let me tell you a personal story from the opposite perspective. Five years ago I worked near Offutt AFB at a company that handled a lot of gov't contracts - point being military town and a LOT of freepers. I was the lone liberal in this shop with constant talk of politics. (Impeachment vitriol - UGH!) Just to simply survive I used to joke that I was their Affirmative Action Liberal/Democrat hire. Yeah, they were just as loud and bad at the office as they are on free republic. They had no use for me or my politics.

Now let me tell you something else that is very personal. In the height of all this political vitriol and disdain for my politics, my son was involved in an accident and died. These SAME politically hateful, vitriolic people PUT THEIR POLITICS ASIDE, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM attended his visitation, took time off for his funeral, and to visit me in my home and offer their support. I will never forget their kindness. There was never any question in my mind or theirs that they would consider my politics at such a time.

This thread is not about a freeper family or a missing puke. It's about a missing loved one. A person.

Shame on you.

[TreasonousBastard]

43. Because, as some people here have tried to point out...

this is a fellow human who is undoubtedly in big trouble, and he has a family who loves him and is terrified.

Our principles are not partisan-- they have to extend to the real world, and we can't just write off someone who is in trouble because he might have voted the "wrong" way. Do we ask the person with a heart attack for their political affiliation before starting CPR?

For myself, and I would hope most of us here, people in such trouble and pain have no politics or ideology.

[ScreamingMeemie]

46. I would hope someone, regardless of their political/religious beliefs,

would do the same for me if my husband or child was missing. This is humanity, nothing more. NN did the right thing. Lighten up, it doesn't sound like a mere wife leaving situation.

[TrogL]

52. Freepers are human too

although I wonder some days (and I also wonder if they would ever do us the favour of posting a missing person's report if it was one of us).

Even though we disagree, we all need to look out for each other.

I would hardly call this trash and there's no evidence that he's a drunk.

[WillParkinson]

57. WTF?!?!

If someone in YOUR family turned up missing I would hope that you could accept any help offered. Just because we don't agree with their politics does not mean that we just turn a blind eye. That is just so rude.

[bamademo]

17. I saw this earlier on a Alabama football board

This guy is a frequent poster. I'll keep an eye out in Huntsville which is north of Pelham. We're almost at the Tennessee state line.

[southpaw]

26. I'll look out in the Anniston area

Only an hour or so north of Birmingham.

[AntiBushRepub]

39. kick

I can't imagine how that must feel.

[Booberdawg]

41. kick

[Wickerman]

45. Hoping for the best possible outcome

:kick:

[Syn_Dem]

48. Ditto

:kick:

[Booberdawg]

49. kick

:kick:

[Wickerman]

51. 'nother kick

:kick:

[bearfan454]

53. Kick again

Us Dems are human beings. We're different than them.

[TrogL]

54. Updates

2001, white Ford Taurus, lic 58D437W. Alabama plates.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/983893/posts?q=1&&page=501

Okay!! A lot is happening this morning. Richards phone has been turned on and a call was placed from his phone to a man in NJ. The man has been called and his son had moved to Atlanta six months ago. His son is 35 years old. They traced the tower and it appears that the phone is there. Oh my!!!!!!1 Yall please keep a look out for ANYTHING!!!!!!!
They have tried to call the phone itself and it rolls over to voice mail. Please know this is a significant break!

...

Richard's phone is in Atlanta! The tower it came from is there. The man with the phone called his Dad. We called his Dad and spoke with him.

[myrna minx]

55. Thanks for the update.

I hope he is found alive and well. My heart goes out to his family.

[zekeson]

56. Looking forward to more updates

thanks