So where can I see a clip of this horrendous Nicollette ...

[tekriter]

Sheridan monday night football intro?

The press is making it sound like it's the end of life as we know it...

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. I know, I wanna see what the fuss is about

Oh, and some nudity.

[tekriter]

3. For research purposes only, of course...

:evilgrin:

[bowens43]

2. here it is. It's nothing.

http://www.wfaa.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.wfaa.com/041115_2000mnfopen_wz.wmv

More screaming from the fundies caused this 'controversy'. These people want to control everything that you and I see, hear and read.

[tekriter]

5. Wellllll, not sure I'd call it "nothing",

but it isn't as explicit as I thought judging by all the yelling and screaming, though.

But it does make you wonder - why would ABC take the chance? Didn't anyone stop and think "you know, this might be trouble"?

[bowens43]

6. Of course it's nothing.

You see her back. That's it. Nothing else.

Take a chance? Do you think that it's okay that showing someones back is 'taking a chance' that it 'might be trouble'? Doesn't that disturb you? It should.

We are steadily moving towards censorship. We are seeing the morality of the Christian right being forced down our throats through the use legislation and fines.

[tekriter]

8. I agree 100% about it being an overreaction...

but isn't ABC smart enough to realize that "overreaction" is completely normal for the fundies?

My point is that even if it is an overreaction, someone HAD to know this would happen.

[Midlodemocrat]

38. I would like to know

why they felt so comfortable airing this and not Saving Private Ryan? They were so worried about the FCC last week, and now they aren't. But, I do agree that we are steadily moving toward censorship and that that intro was a big, no huge, nothing.

[penni]

7. It's not for everyone

It's not something I'd want my 8-year-old son to see.

[bowens43]

12. Then turn it off.

We're talking about a back here. Nothing more.

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

31. 1st of all, I don't think MNF at 9pm markets to 8 year-olds... in addition

I'd MUCH rather have my kid seeing sexual content that the ridiculous amount of violence we see. Any day...

[slestak]

40. MNF is live

It's on at 7pm here in NM.

Also, the product isn't MNF, it's the NFL, which certainly does market itself to children.

Finally, if you would rather have your young child watch Desperate Housewives instead of sports, I guess that's your business. However, that wouldn't happen in my house. Different strokes, I guess.

[penni]

55. Hey, it's football!

Of course it markets to 8-year-old boys - it's football! Even our 4-year-old watches football with us but we don't expect to see anything sexually suggestive, and that dropping the towel was over the top for our family.

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

58. Um... like the beer commercials with scantilly clad women

are ACCEPTABLE in your eyes? This differs from those, how?? Whatever.

[penni]

61. Of course not

Anything sexually suggestive isn't appropriate for our kids. They kids know about beer because my husband drinks beer and they know it's wrong until they're 21-years-old. But selling sex in the opener was completely inappropriate.

And for what it's worth, commercials are something we watch with scrutiny and often tell our boys to close their eyes. We want our boys to keep their childhood and innocence as long as possible.

[mike_c]

39. what???

I just watched the online video-- I thought it was kind of dumb, but I'm not a footbal fan. What part of it would you not want an eight year old to see? A woman's bare shoulders and a millisecond or two of her bare upper back? There's more flesh than that on display at any beach or swimming pool. The fact that sexual attraction is an explicit part of the interaction? That's the subtext of nearly every nondocumentary program on television, and usually with major doses of violence thrown in as well.

I just don't understand what part of this you thought was inappropriate for an eight year old.

[slestak]

41. Did you watch it with the sound on?

It's not completely shocking or outrageous, but it is inappropriate, and it's not the bare shoulders that make it so.

Do you have children?

[mike_c]

51. yes, with the sound on-- my daughter is grown so that's not...

...an issue, but I have to say that this is certainly not the sort of thing I ever tried to shield her from when she was young, and she certainly heard equally risque banter from her mother and I on occasion!

Truthfully, I haven't had cable television since she was pretty young, so she would have been shielded from this, not because I think it's inherently inappropriate, but because I think most television content is too mind numbingly dumb (or violent, or devoted to making us good consumers, and so on) to waste time on.

[penni]

56. What part was appropriate?

What did I think was inappropriate? The suggestive voice, the conversation, the lack of priorities (fogetting the game for sex) and dropping the towel.

While there may be violence and sex on TV, our kids don't watch TV without us being present and we don't expect to see sexually suggestive TV as an opener for football. Hey - it's football!

[jdj]

14. Because Janet Jackson has a new career now.

And how many millions of times have the letters "ABC" been uttered since that clip.

Controversy sells, and all you have to do is utter a few mea culpas and say "I'm so sorry, I did't realize" and you are off the hook.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

36. It's definitely nothing.

I thought it was kind of funny. I'm not sure want the big deal is. Are they not even allow to insinuate nudity on TV anymore?

[Richardo]

11. Pretty lame. And I have a follow up question:

Does Hank Williams Jr even have a career outside football season anymore? I hope not.

[DelawareValleyDem]

27. I'm offended by their horrible acting

but not much else.

[flygal]

35. sigh - remember when football was a sport

and not a major television "event". That opening (not the housewives - the country music guy) was so over the top. I like college football so much better.

[slestak]

43. Agreed

College ball is where it's at.

[Brewman_Jax]

4. I saw it

It's no more racy than any soap opera scene; it's rather tame by those standards. I don't see what the fuss is about. :shrug:

[roseBudd]

9. I think what they are really upset about is the interracial aspect

[Brewman_Jax]

10. That's a good point!

I should've seen that immediately. Big black guy, hot blonde babe... This is supposed to be the 21st Century, and still attitudes won't go away. Makes you wonder about the future. :dunce:

[Crankie Avalon]

16. Reading through the responses...

...I was wondering if someone else had already brought this up or if I was going to be the first.

If the player had also been white would the reaction have been a little less "outraged?"

That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

[jukes]

23. they won't admit it, o/c

but that IS their problem w/it.

sad/weak.

[VOX]

57. My exact thought. Red-state rage over "race mixing."

God, how much farther backwards can we go??? :grr:

[Logansquare]

63. Yup, that's the first thing I thought when I heard about the "outrage"

I think the Jackson thing had a racial aspect, as well.
Did Colin's son make threats after the Madonna-Britteny kiss?

[slestak]

13. it's not the end of the world, but

I think it's inappropriate for the time and nature of the show.

I grew up in Texas and Oklahoma. Football isn't just for beer-swilling bachelors. A lot of families watch MNF every week. If I had children of TV-viewing age (I have a two-year-old daughter), I would have turned it off.

It's not that Nicolette Sheridan took off her towel and showed a little skin. What bothers me is the depiction of a multi-millionaire professional athlete skipping out on his job to go have sex. Apparently, sex trumps responsibility to an employer, responsibility to fans, and good sportsmanship. I don't think that's funny.

The completely casual nature of the sex bothers me too. Look, I'm a grown-up. I know what grown-ups do. I know plenty of people who have had one-night stands. I don't think this type of behavior should be on display in front of a football game.

I watch DH every week, and I enjoy the show. It can be a bit trashy, but it's fun. It's also obviously not for kids, and it starts later in the evening.

I'm not a prude. I'm not a person who's easily offended, but stuff like that has no business being put in front of a football game. Save it for adult-oriented programs or later in the evening.

[jdj]

18. this just re-affirms my theory that this was a calculated move.

people should tell ABC to grow up.

if the fundies weren't there to screech, then maybe real adults would be heard.

I feel strongly that the world of adults has encroached way too heavily into the world of children with regard to video arts, but I don't know what the answer is. I was appalled at the sexualization of "The Cat in The Hat" with Mike Myers, the scene in the trailer where Myers opens the Mom's pic. like a centerfold...things like that put in children's movies offend me to no end, kids have a right to their own little universe, and sexualizing their stories and injection of adult sexuality into their territory is a violation, which most artists like this realize when they have kids of their own. I recently read a column by a journalist who was commenting on snoop dogg, I think, or another rapper who recently said he was cleaning up his act for his kids' sake. The journalist responded something like "it's great that you are concerned about your kids, but I wish you had been concerned about mine."

[mitchum]

52. It was indeed a calculated move on the part of ABC in order to...

manufacture "outrage" thus hyping MNF and Desperate Housewives. Nothing more.

[Jack Schitt]

19. MNF is family-oriented????

That's news to me. When my dad watched MNF when I was growing up, he always kicked me out of the living room. The reason was because he could swear when something didn't go his way with the team he liked. Plus, he drank beer and had friends over.

Unless families have dramatically changed in the last 22 years, I don't think children should be watching MNF.

[slestak]

20. Well, it's certainly not "Wonderful World of Disney"

There are plenty of other reasons kids shouldn't watch football (like the non-stop Levitra ads with the MILF writhing on the couch). But some kids like sports, and they look up to professional athletes. A kid in Philly is going to want to stay up and watch the Eagles on MNF.

I grew up in two states that are ruled by football. I love football (college ball, in particular). Attending ball games and watching them on TV is a family event for many.

[Beware the Beast Man]

22. Yep..there's nothing more family-oriented

than oversize men beating the ever-loving crap out of each other to obtain possession of a rubber ball. :eyes:

And I say this as a huge football fan.

[slestak]

28. So what are you saying?

Kids don't like to watch football?

[Beware the Beast Man]

33. It's a bouble-standard of sorts.

Sex-bad
violence-good

[slestak]

37. I agree

There is a double standard. It exists in all forms of entertainment. But in my house, I would rather have my children watch football than DH.

Congrats on the great season, BTW. I thought "Big Ben" was the steal of the draft, and he sure is shaping up to be just that.

[gollygee]

42. Well in my house

I'd rather my children see sexual innuendo than a violent sport like football.

:shrug:

[Beware the Beast Man]

46. Un-freakin-real, that kid is.

I hope it's not just a case of beginner's luck, a la Stewart and Maddox.

[slestak]

49. I wouldn't worry too much

He's smarter than Kordell, and Maddox is the journeyman-type. Barring injury, I think he's a franchise guy.

I must admit I'm a bit jealous. My team (Cowboys) are painful to watch this year.

[Beware the Beast Man]

50. Ugh. Three words:

Kimo. Von. Oelhoffen.

:evilgrin:

[toddzilla]

15. are you kidding me???

that's it???//


how the hell do these people have kids? what the fuck is wrong with these folks?

[Squatch]

26. I am 150% with you on this.

These people should avoid the following places based on their reaction to that clip:

1) The beach
2) Miss America Pageant
3) Europe

[Jack Schitt]

17. Seriously...

who would complain about that????? There was no nudity.

I bet it was those racist fucks who complained because there was a white woman hitting on a black man.

God, do I ever hate repukes. :grr:

[Zech Marquis]

53. Bingo

they're bitching because TO was able to gt some blonde chick to drop her towel for him, that' all. Had it been someone like...Tom Brady, you wouldn't hear a word, but the big bad Terrell Owens, oh nooooo :evilgrin:


've seen Japanese dramas show a hell of alot more than that skit did, and some of those Japanese dramas were shown in the afternoon! What a bunch of prunes...

[GreenPartyVoter]

21. Hubby felt it was a bit risque for Primetime TV. I didn't see it so I can

not say.

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[CBGLuthier]

24. How many Viagra, Levitra, and Budweiser ads ran

That is what kills me about this stuff. Content is regulated but advertising can inform me and my children that 4 hour erections can be dangerous and guzzling beer is a wholesome activity that has no harmful consequences, except maybe for the occasional four hour erection I guess.

[underpants]

25. Yeah and look at what CNN and Fox showed the very next day

[Crankie Avalon]

34. THAT'S different...

...that shows fundies what a virile, manly man Saint W is. If he started dryhumping her right then and there it would have shown his decisiveness and been further proof of "leadership." :crazy:

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

59. THANK YOU!! Explaining to a child what "male enhancement" is...

is far more strange than this.

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

60. And another thing about these Viagra and Levitra ads...

the commercialization of it gives the impression that it's such a widespread 'issue' that everybody needs it - even DITKA!! Talk about setting young men up for a complex!! WTF?!?

[Gothmog]

29. I am very disappointed

After viewing the video, the fundies are making a large deal of this for no good reason.

[NaturalHigh]

30. At least...

I finally know who Nicollette Sheridan is.

[Squatch]

32. She's not even the good-looking one IMHO...

Eva Longoria...yowser!

[matcom]

44. HEY FUNDIES!!! SHE IS WEARING A CROSS AROUND HER NECK!

its all good :D

[SteppingRazor]

45. CNN was showing it all morning

Pity most of you refuse to watch ;)

[KurtNYC]

47. Did they make an endless loop out of it?

Like they did with Janet's wardrobe malfunction?

Kind of ironic they say 'hey this really upset people when it aired...' as they run the clip over and over.

And I'm proud not to watch CNN anymore btw.

[OneTwentyoNine]

48. Meanwhile the "Bachelor" plays with half naked chicks weekly...

More "JJ" overreacting and that same ole'feigned "OUTRAGE". No kidding,I've seen TEN TIME the skin in one episode of the bachelor.

Oh well,keeps minds off of the hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq.

David

[SarahB]

54. More. Distraction. News.

It's called least common denominator mindless garbage. :dunce:
Don't pay attention.
Then perhaps one day, we'll actually have real news again on TV. Dare I dream? :(

[briang5000]

62. It was inappropriate for children......

but anybody who was watching with somebody too young for this scene
could have easily turned the channel.

It was obvious to anybody with even half a brain where the scene was headed after the first shot of her in the towel.

A parent with a young child in the room could have easily turned channel for 3 minutes and protected their child from exposure to this adult themed promo.

I agree with everybody that the outrage over this MNF open is hollow. If people are so easily offended we need to remove most of the beer ads, most of the afternoon talk shows, most drug commercials, most feminine hygiene commercials, and all the afternoon soaps.

[Logansquare]

64. Yes, how are parents explaining the Levitra commercials? n/t

[YellowRubberDuckie]

65. What kills me is that they do more than this on DAYTIME TELEVISION!!

I used to watch soaps with my mom as a small child. These same people think Daytime tv is ok, but they don't like this? It's the same shit, just a different time of day. Who else watched soaps with their parents when they were kids?! I'm sure that tradition continues. They just pick and choose what they get offended by, and what's even dumber is that the idiots at the FCC have actually started listening to those idiots!!
Duckie