More than 70 bucks are displayed

[Sequoia]

More than 70 bucks are displayed at Knutson's Buck Pole in Brooklyn, Mich. Hunters bring bucks to the outdoor supply store on opening day of firearm deer season to be weighed and displayed on the pole.

This is from the Day in Pictures of the SF Gate (click on photo top right and click to photo)

This disgusting photo is from the Jackson Citizen-Patriot in Brooklyn, MI at Knutson's Buck Pole.

[sniffa]

1. Look! they're Line dancing.

[trotsky]

2. I'm not a hunter and never will be, but...

Would you rather have 70 (or 700 or 7000) bucks, does, and fawns die from disease and/or starvation due to overcrowding because no natural predators exist to reduce their numbers?

[donheld]

27. I'd rather

have all creatures like this left alone, unless absolutely needed for food.

[Catchawave]

43. Hunters create unnatural reproductive rates....

...they also don't select the weaker of the species, as natural predators do.

[MercutioATC]

3. Woooohoo! Suspended dead mammals!

That's what I'D take my kid to see!

[AngryAmish]

4. What is disgusting about said photo?

Just some folks proud of the results of their hunts.

[SteppingRazor]

5. Um..

It's hunters, in a rural, hunting area, doing what hunters do. What's so disgusting?

[distantearlywarning]

6. I don't mind hunting

People eat meat. People in rural areas hunt for their meat. I think you could make a good argument that that behavior is less cowardly than going to the grocery store and buying a pound of hamburger, all wrapped in plastic and sanitized and carrying no trace of the "psychological taint" of killing (we can all pretend that our own hands aren't bloody...)

What bothers me about this picture and about some hunters I have met is the bragging and the display and the clear joy in killing. There's something very wrong about that.

If I were living in a rural area, I might hunt. I am a member of a predator species and I eat meat. But I would never take psychological pleasure in the death I caused, nor would I brag about it, or use my kill to achieve status in the eyes of other people.

[BJ]

7. Here in central Iowa we are up to our kesters' in deer.

They've become such a problem in some cities in the state that urban bow-hunting rules are being enforced. Since we, meaning the white American population in general, have killed off their natural predators, invaded their natural habitat and provided them with all sorts of tasty foods there is nothing left but to control their population.

I find nothing disgusting about the above picture. I would find photos of deer dying from starvation, due to overgrazing, much more disgusting.

And, no, I don't think birth control pills are a viable option.
BTW, I no longer hunt.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

8. It's disgusting because it strips the dignity from life.

I understand vegetarianism isn't for everyone. I don't want to force that belief on anyone. If you eat meat, to me it doesn't matter whether you get it from the store or from the wilderness. At least the deer shot in the wilderness lived free.

However, to then go and display it like that is just...sick. It's making a game out of death. If one has to eat animals, fine. But what's the point of dragging a carcass of anything around?

[Sequoia]

9. Thank you, that's the point here.

[trotsky]

10. Because some hunters actually think their prey is beautiful.

I know several deer hunters who take pictures of their kill only because of the beauty of it. Deer are very powerful, very sleek animals and many hunters admire them even in death. Just because their idea of honoring them differs from yours doesn't make them wrong or immoral.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

12. Beauty in death?

I agree, deer are extremely beautiful. Alive. But something that is dead? I fail to see how you can honor something by treating it as a trophy and dragging its body around. But regardless, this particular picture is not of people "honoring deer" or finding beauty in them. This picture is of deer lined up as objects and being weighed so the hunter can feel good about himself. There is something wrong with that. Killing to feel good?

[trotsky]

13. I still don't think you understand.

I myself don't find any beauty in the death of a deer, but SOME PEOPLE DO and I can begin to understand where that comes from. You can sit in judgement of whether this picture and the hunters are "honoring" the deer, but that doesn't mean your view is the only valid one.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

15. SOME people find beauty in the death of a human

You need only look at some of the reactions to the Iraq war to see that. SOME people find beauty in minors in sexually explicit ways. Sometimes a differing opinion just isn't acceptable.

[trotsky]

23. Well that discussion went right down the tubes.

Oh yes, pedophiles are morally equivalent to hunters.

:eyes:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

24. No, my point is that just because people think it's beautiful

doesn't mean one has to just sit there and say "well that's their opinion", especially if it is objectionable to their morals.

[Nestea]

26. No, I don't think you ever had a point.

But that's okay. Just keep talking. Maybe you'll find one.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

28. Let me guess...you're a hunter who likes trophies, right?

Well, you have the right to display your trophies and I have the right to think it's disgusting. That's the point. Is that clear enough for you? Or do you need me to break it down further?

[Nestea]

29. I've never hunted in my entire life

But I do eat meat and I like eating meat.

And if you eat meat then you're a complete hypocrite.

I also happen to believe that hunting is more humane than factory farming. I suspect most on here would agree.

I think you just have problems

[SemiCharmedQuark]

30. I am a vegetarian

And hunting for the sake of eating is different than just shooting an animal to display it. I said that in my other posts. Perhaps you should read the whole thread before jumping to conclusions. Also, personal attacks aren't welcome on DU, so maybe you should reread the rules.
Here, I'll make it really really easy for you:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=2024503&mesg_id=2024875&page=

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=2024503&mesg_id=2024556&page=

[Nestea]

31. No personal attacks in my post

And I've read the rules.

And if you consider anything in MY post to be a personal attack, look at post #12:

"There is something wrong with that. Killing to feel good?"

Oh, gee, maybe you should re-read the rules yourself.

Stop assuming and come up with some reasoning for your arguments. It might help??

[SemiCharmedQuark]

32. Personal attacks...keyword: personal

As in directed towards another DUer. Nothing in post 12 is directed at anyone else.

Your post was directed to me.

And as far as the argument is concerned, your concerns were
1.) If I eat meat and don't like this picture I am a hypocrite
Well I don't eat meat
2.) hunting is a good way to get meat and is better than farms
Well I had said that much earlier in the thread.

Therefore, what else would you like me to argue?

[Nestea]

33. I don't want you to argue anything with me

You just can't understand how someone would find this picture acceptable, so we have nothing to talk about.

Goodbye.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

34. Yes, finally.

THAT is what I did say. I don't eat meat and I find it objectionable and apparently something is wrong with me for that. Whatever. Now that you see that I never went against either of your points, and that you argued for nothing, you run. Right. Goodbye.

[Nestea]

35. I have nothing to prove to you

I'm not vegetarian.

And I also find criticism of this picture to be stupid and unwarranted as well.

So we do really have nothing to talk about.

Save your energy.

Ta-ta

[alwynsw]

46. Trophies?

I've taken well over 100 deer. I have not one single solitary trophy unless you want to count either what's in my freezer or the things my wife has made from the hides I've tanned or the antlers she's carved for buttons, knife handles, etc.

We generally use the whole thing for food and other useful purposes. Granted, some are decorative - such as knife handles - but the knives get used almost daily.

My dog gets the bones.

[alwynsw]

45. I think they're especially beautiful in my skillet. n/t

[bearfan454]

25. Good point

See post 16

[Nestea]

11. I assume you're a vegetarian

If not, total hypocrisy.

People who eat meat and are offended by this picture are like people who support the war but don't want to see the body count or the pictures of dead soldiers.

Face facts.

And for the record, I'm not a vegetarian.

And I've never hunted deer, unless you count hitting one on the interstate.

[RebelOne]

20. Another vegetarian here.

And photos like that deeply offend me.

[Nestea]

22. Er I meant to say I'm not a vegetariian

Let me edit that.

My post makes no sense if I'm a vegetarian.

My bad.

[Squatch]

14. And that's different from a meat market...how?

[Occulus]

40. I was going to ask the same question...

How is that photo any different, really, from the deer photo?

Some are skinned and some aren't?

Is that it??

Someone on this thread saw too many Bambi movies.

edit: there are some really yummy-looking steaks on that table.

[bearfan454]

16. Deer are delicious

Deer cubes:
Cube up some filet'd deer meat into 2" x 2" cubes. Butterfly them open halfway. Put a slice of a jalapeno(no seeds)in the opening. Wrap the cube in a half or a whole piece of bacon(I use cheap bacon for this).Toothpick the bacon on it or use a skewer and shiskebob 6 or 7 on the skewer. Marinate 3 or 4 hours in Lawry's herb and garlic marinade. Cook over charcoal. Watch them carefully because the bacon drips and they will take off on you. They cook in about 10 minutes depending on the intensity of your charcoals. Serve over a bed of wild rice. Yummy.

[ScreamingMeemie]

17. To be honest, I see a lot of good eating for those lucky enough to

bag one. :hi: We hunt for food here. It really cuts the winter grocery bill down. Plus, less dead dear and people on MI's highways.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

18. I think you're right

As I said, I don't believe hunting is wrong for people that eat meat anyway. I think it's even better than buying meat in the stores where the animal spent its life crowded in a pen.

[bearfan454]

21. You get a lot of meat off of them too Mrs Grumpy.

Chili, deer cubes, jerky, chicken fried steaks, etc, etc.

[Politicub]

19. That is such a sad picture

What a bunch of psychos

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

36. That picture depresses me.

I didn't know that "buck" means deer too. I was expecting to see some historic coins. (seriously!)

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[flvegan]

37. Here's what I see...

A bunch of fat fucking idiots, gloating over their ability to take high-powered rifles/bows and eliminate another life. I see folks that, if it came to a fair fight, would lose, overwhelmingly, to the wildlife they seek to "conserve" <cough...bullshit...cough>.

Now, to those that honestly hunt for food, I wouldn't suggest this. That's a little different. You deer piss-drenched trophy hounds, enjoy your feelings of greatness, as the domination of defenseless herbivores is the only place you can get it, I guess.

And yeah, I'm a vegan, and I don't touch meat. Shove "hypocrisy" up your ass. Why are there so many animals that need "eliminating" now due to shortages of food and habitat? Cuz your fat ass just built another subdivision. No diff than WalMart...

This glorification of violence and praise of death just pisses me off (did you guess that already)?

[Occulus]

41. yeah, their reproductive rate has nothing to do with it

:eyes:

[Clinton Crusader]

38. Crikey mate, a little warning of the photo would have be nice....

yikes

[Piperay]

39. DISGUSTING

and yeah I'm a vegetarian.

[Catchawave]

42. I'm not a vegetarian....

...and I found it disgusting. Real men don't shoot at things that can't shoot back.

[alwynsw]

44. I live in KY, so here's mine!