Greeks say Alexander was not bisexual

[joeybee12]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6530956/

This would be so phucking phunny if these people weren't serious!

ATHENS - A group of Greek lawyers are threatening to sue Warner Bros film studios and Oliver Stone, director of the widely anticipated film “Alexander,” for suggesting Alexander the Great was bisexual.
The lawyers have already sent an extrajudicial note to the studio and director demanding they include a reference in the title credits saying his movie is a fictional tale and not based on official documents of the life of the Macedonian ruler.

“We are not saying that we are against gays but we are saying that the production company should make it clear to the audience that this film is pure fiction and not a true depiction of the life of Alexander,” Yannis Varnakos, who spearheads the campaign by 25 lawyers, told Reuters on Friday.

Stone was quoted on the MSNBC.com Web Site as telling the upcoming edition of Playboy magazine that the film’s depiction of Alexander could offend some. “We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing,” he was quoted as saying.

While the film starring Colin Farrell and Angelina Jolie will be released on Nov. 24, Varnakos said he has already gathered enough information regarding the content of the movie to suggest there are “inappropriate references.”

“We have not seen the film but from the information we have already there are references to his alleged homosexuality, a fact that is in no historical document or archive on Alexander,” he said. “Either they make it clear that this is a work of fiction or we will take the case further.”

This is not the first time Greeks have been angered by suggestions Alexander was homosexual and had affairs with young men. Two years ago hundreds of northern Greeks from the province of Macedonia, where he was born, stormed an archaeological symposium after one speaker presented a paper on the homosexuality of Alexander. Police were called in to evacuate the participants.

One of the greatest military leaders of all time, Alexander, who was never defeated in battle, conquered about 90 percent of the then-known world before his mysterious death at the age of 32, building an empire that stretched from the Mediterranean to Afghanistan.

Varnakaos said as Stone has the right to freely express himself, the audience should have the right to know. “We cannot come out and say that (former U.S.) President John F. Kennedy was a shooting guard for the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and so Warner cannot come out and say Alexander was gay,” Varnakos said.

[Placebo]

1. Well they are just living in denial.

He wasn't even bisexual, he was a homosexual.

Take that Greece!

[demosincebirth]

7. He had women and his favorite teenage boy...

I think thats bi-sexualuality

[skygazer]

2. What a ridiculous thing to make a fuss about

This is a Hollywood movie not a historical documentary. You might as well cry foul about Titanic because Leo DiCaprio's character didn't exist or Gods and Generals because they had the wrong person leading the charge of the Irish Brigade at Fredericksburg.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

3. Wow, I didn't know that about JFK!

:silly:

[joeybee12]

8. Hey--he was more talented than we ever gave him credit for!

AND with that bad back!

[denverbill]

11. Duh. He was a power forward. Stupid Greeks.

That was a pretty funny analogy for them to pick though.

[Kurovski]

4. They don't call it "Greek" for nothin'.

Very Amusing.

[devilgrrl]

5. I had always heard that he was gay, Gay, GAY!!!

:shrug:

[papau]

6. True - the Greeks are correct -why 30 words for love must all translate to

gay sex is beyond me..

Not that I would be surprised if Alexander was bi - nor is there anything wrong with being bi - or gay -

but the fact is that there is no historical document that states he had gay sex with anyone.

And indeed in Greek their really are words that say "had gay sex" - it is not like the folks at the time lacted the vocabulary.

But to defend the film maker - there are a lot of folks in the "college" world over the last 2000 years that have tried to imply - or did out right state - that Alexander was gay - but again on no real evidence.

[Citizen Jane]

9. Yep, no real evidence.

A very good discussion of the arguments can be found here:

http://www.pothos.org/alexander.asp?paraID=42

[papau]

12. excellent - as the city of brotherly love Philadelphia takes its name

from philia

Perhaps Alexander was not even "bi"

not that it is wrong to be hetero!

:-)

[nickgutierrez]

13. Very interesting. n/t

[Politicub]

10. I'm certain he was gay

The baby Jesus told me so last night in a dream.

[Lex]

14. "there is no historical document that states he had gay sex with anyone"

.
Well, that proves it then. :eyes:

Is there any historical document that states he DIDN'T have gay sex with anyone?

[papau]

15. I CAN NOT FIND A DOC THAT SAYS BUSH HAS NOT HAD GAY SEX!

but that proves what?

[Lex]

19. It proves nothing.

Which was my point about "no documents saying Alexander having gay sex"--it proves nothing.

No evidence of document saying he did OR he didn't proves nothing.

See?

[papau]

21. I agree :-)

not that either would be wrong!

:-)

[BoX o BooX]

16. This case will certainly accomplish one thing:

Separate the men from the boys.

[neebob]

17. Okay, but this Varnakos dude also said Alexander was gay

“We have not seen the film but from the information we have already there are references to his alleged homosexuality, a fact that is in no historical document or archive on Alexander,” he said.

So which one is it? :shrug:

[BoX o BooX]

18. If he was NOT gay,

Why did he wear such FABULOUS outfits? Hmmmm?

I think I've made my point.

[joeybee12]

20. You're right--and either Patsy or Edina must have been him in their

previous lives!

[jdj]

23. I love those ab fab ladies!

[corporatemedia]

22. and all this time i thought that's why he was called "the Great"

[supernova]

24. I believe he was

homosexuality was a not more regular part of th Greo-Roman world than it is today. More's the pity.