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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:49 PM
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porn or censoring the internets?
http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-pornography-senate,0,1223854.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines


Shall we discuss this article and anyone that wants to research it good luck.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:51 PM
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1. PORN!
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gtp1976 Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:52 PM
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2. ughh
When I was in college I used to work at a video rental store. I can't count the times a parent would ask if there was any nudity in a film. Even if I warned about the language and graphic violence as long as there was no boobies on the screen they were fine with it. Ridiculous, IMO.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:59 PM
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6. My stepdad
always shielded us from gratuitous violence but had a more relaxed attitude toward nudity. He said nudity is natural, but chopping someone's head off is not.

I always thought underneath all the drinking liquor, he was a pretty smart guy.

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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:01 PM
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8. Welcome to DU, gtp1976
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 04:01 PM by Droopy
:toast:

Yeah, I find it odd too that many people will let their kids watch graphic violence, but get all upset about even brief nudity.

Personally, I would not want my kids watching a movie that had nudity in it, but I also wouldn't let them watch a movie that had graphic violence in it, either.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:33 PM
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21. The ones that crack me up
Are the ones who fight like cats and dogs in front of the kids but want to shield them from displays of affection. I was once told by one of these whack jobs to quit "making out" with my husband in front of her kids. I'd given him a peck on the cheek and we'd been holding hands. She, however, felt no compunction about screaming at her hubby like a fishwife, using every foul word in the book. :wtf:

Welcome to DU, by the way. :hi:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:55 PM
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3. Severe penalities for those who spam porn or attach those viruses
that lock onto your programs if your kids accidentally get into the wrong webpage.

But if you had certainties to keep kids out of the porn sites, I wouldn't have any objection to them.
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:56 PM
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4. "Internet pornography is corrupting children"
People use the "corrupting children" line against everything... from Television and video games to movies and music. Do people honestly think that taking away these things would make children more "wholesome"? I think not!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:03 PM
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10. Sorry, but it happened to my kid, and it's true.
Way too graphic stuff at too early an age messes with a kid's head. We were lucky because I'm a stay at home mom and nipped it in the bud before it led to anything.

And what does it lead to? It makes games like truth or dare very interesting and as a parent, I sure wouldn't want to be the supervising parent when kids stay up until 3:00 in the morning of a sleep-over to see how far they can take one of those games. What they don't know won't hurt the neighbor's kids.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:09 PM
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12. It's really not that hard to censor what children see
but it's something that parents need to take responsibility for in their own homes and on their own computers. That's not a philosophical position, it's a practical one. And like all good parenting, it takes more time and a bigger commitment to knowing what your kids are up to than shifting the blame to someone else.

Personally, I'm all for adult targeted porn. Whatever floats your boat. Or, as my great-grandmother used to say, "Doesn't matter where you get your appetite, as long as you eat at home." (Actual advice to my mom on her wedding day.)
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:27 PM
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13. I agree
we need a reasonable approach but also a real definition of porn to include more than nudity, or sexual activity. How about violence?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:06 PM
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15. Very naive to think that it's that easy to protect kids from porn.
The only way I finally succeeded, was by blocking ALL of her e-mails.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:25 PM
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18. Umm. I don't have kids, but I think censoring them in these times would
be quite a challenge.

We got hold of a whole lotta porn and other stuff in the 80s - long before the internet. It's gotta be ten times easier for kids now.

And as far as an appetite, there have been studies that have shown young men are now UNABLE TO PERFORM with women in their real lives b/c being with a real person is a whole lot different than what they see in the porn vidoes.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:45 PM
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22. I'm sure they are the most reputable of studies.....
And as far as an appetite, there have been studies that have shown young men are now UNABLE TO PERFORM with women in their real lives b/c being with a real person is a whole lot different than what they see in the porn vidoes.

Porn makes a convienent excuse for a lot ot things. Just ask Ted Bundy.

The latest porn "study" comes to the "conclusion" that porn should fall outside of free speech because the images are processed by the brain differently.




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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:57 PM
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5. I think that the internets should not be censored
although I read that over half the internets is filled with porno sites
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:01 PM
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7. no pr0n?
kind of defeats the purpose of the internet, doesnt it?

oh and will researchers post pics pls
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:03 PM
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9. The internet is for porn... the internet is for porn....
so grab your dick and double click for porn, porn, pornnnn.

(from "Avenue Q")
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:03 PM
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11. Judith Reisman
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 04:05 PM by WoodrowFan
I noticed they mentioned Judith Reisman in the article. She is a total wackjob who says Kinsey died early because he masturbated too much! She also did a study trying to "prove" that Playboy was child porn! She used as an example of "child porn" a scene from Romeo and Juliet!!

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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:46 PM
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14. yes she has
an interesting history of anti-sexual causes.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:08 PM
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16. Like Molly Ivins says,
the cure for freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:30 PM
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20. Actually an interesting point.
There was a report in the news recently that the percentage of people searching for porn on the internet has gone down. People are using the internet for more and more things and porn is kind of taking a back seat to that.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:19 PM
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23. Then the question is...
...what can we, as concerned citizens, do to make it number one again?

Seriously, y'all must know that phony "decency" fads are always excuses to crack down on other sorts of undesirable speech. The "internets" are the one area of public discourse not safely in the hands of CEOs, and so the Republicans fear it. It's the main way, for example, that the current voter-fraud stories are getting around.

*Of course* the Republicans were gonna come for it next.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:12 PM
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17. To quote Lewis Black
If they did away with all the porn on the internet there would be only one webpage and it would be called bringbacktheporn.com

:-)
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:29 PM
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19. i *believe*
in the sanctity of the internets!

let's leave no child's behind!
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