Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Can someone explain how the "Draft" works?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:52 AM
Original message
Can someone explain how the "Draft" works?
A couple of freepers and I had an argument about it and i want to make sure that i get it right before my next class.

I also heard that they are making you register at the DMV before your 18th birthday.

Do you know if it will include both males and females.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Malebolgia Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:54 AM
Response to Original message
1. Last I heard, it was going to include females.
From the ages of 18-35.

I'm not quite sure how the process works. I think they do a lottery and pick a day of the year, and if you were born that day (and over 18), they'd call you up.

But I'm not sure though. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:55 AM
Response to Original message
2. You register at the post office.......
...the forms are usually where the packing slips are......

Beyond that, I'm clueless.......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:56 AM
Response to Original message
3. Some basic info, with links
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:57 AM
Response to Original message
4. That depends on how they write the bill
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 12:57 AM by imenja
There hasn't been a draft since Vietnam. At that time it was only for men and there were all sorts of exemptions for those attending college, men with children, etc... The details will almost certainly be different this time, but I don't think we can know until they present a bill.
Charlie Rangel proposed one, but that wouldn't be the one the Republicans end up passing.
My understanding is that all men need to register with the Selective Service on their 18th birthday. Being female, I haven't done it myself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:59 AM
Response to Original message
5. Every male has to register on their 18th birthday
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 01:02 AM by xray s
Females are exempt, for now.

No one has been formally drafted since the mid-70's, though Reservists and Guardsmen today will tell you they have had their service extended involuntarily, so they have been "back door drafted".

An actual draft would require Congressional authorization. we don't know how it would be structured, but the bill that was before the House earlier this year would draft both males and females, from 18 to 35 years old, and would severely limit deferments.

The last time there was a draft, they used a lottery system based on your birthdate. The first bithdate that was picked was assigned #1, and so on. Then people were drafted in that order, until the needs of the military were met that year.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:08 AM
Response to Original message
6. Do younger people in the draft pool get drafted first?
Do they go through the 18 year olds, then the 19 year olds, etc, or do they go evenly through the draft pool?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nag Champa Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. They start with the 20 year olds...
Here it is from the horses mouth.

http://www.sss.gov/fslottery.htm

And here is the whole rundown.

http://www.sss.gov/WHHAP.HTM
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Well that fucking sucks!
That website says men, but bet the house on it that women will be included into it too
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nag Champa Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. I have read that proposal.
Although I can't remember where. I also read something about kicking the draft age up a bit to 35.

Why don't they just figure out a way to melt our bodies into something combustable so we could avoid the whole grinder of war.

"Yup, Steve...it sucks... I got called up and I'm scheduled to be turned into crude on February 3rd."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. I propose...
that everyone drop what they are doing and join a big orgy, you can't very well fight a war when you are well...um...you know. But then again that might just be the beer talking
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nag Champa Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. Funny you should say that.
Because when fuckwad gave his "axis of evil" speech, my wife turned to me and said, "that man has clearly not ejaculated in years".

Maybe dats wat make him so mean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. you know that there is...
a type of chimp (not the president variety) that settles disputes that way...I'd say it's not a bad way to fight! http://www.blockbonobofoundation.org/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nag Champa Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. I would give up pacifism entirely.
And be a violent mutha-fucka.

But....uhhh.....I probably wouldn't do a bonobo.


Unless I could shave her first....then maybe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:40 AM
Response to Reply #16
19. My new mantra would be...
Instead of "make love not war"..."make a love war!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nag Champa Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. Sure...maybe even another civil war.
I would be forced to fight my next door neighbor in hand to hand combat.



Yeah, I've though about that for a long time. :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:46 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. Its sad really when...
a bunch of monkeys are more evolved than us in some respects, not you or me or just about anyone else on this board...because we are not horrible prudes who would rather kill than have sex. But they are more evolved than the 55 million who voted for Bush, which is ironic because they don't believe in evolution anyway!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kurt Remarque Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #7
21. i assume the smilin' guys on these pages didn't get the call yet
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
morcatknits Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:20 AM
Response to Original message
9. Currently,
Although registration of 18 year old males goes on, there is no actual draft law in effect right now. Congress would have to pass a new law to re-institute the draft. I imagine that grappling over drafting women will be one of the big issues, if and when Congress would write a new law. I personally think it is more likely that Bush will just walk away from Iraq rather than re-institute the draft, but we'll see. Anything could happen. I asked an attorney in one of the U.S. Attorney's offices about the draft, that the above is what they told me.
morcatknits
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
13. You hold a glass at an angle and pull the lever on the tap. The angle is
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 01:41 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
to make sure not too much foam builds up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. Unless you're pouring Guinness
Then it's a whole different matter entirely. With a whole different tap that has an adjustable nozzle. :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. Or a black and tan - then you need that fucked up spoon thing
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nag Champa Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #13
18. I think that foam is called "head".
So remember...if you are drafted... try not to give too much head.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 06:07 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC