I'm disgusted at the lack of respect that was shown in an earlier thread.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=2053240

Someone PM'd me and informed me of this thread that was started earlier. I am disgusted that the suggestion was made. I am further nauseated and very insulted that anybody would think that just because a teenager is making an argument, their age makes it invalid. There are forty five year olds here (without naming names) that are less coherent than the teenagers that come on this board. For as progressive as the people on this message board typically are, this really really surprised me.

[BoX o BooX]

1. Consider the source, Lefty.

Nothing that team has said all day has made sense.

Most of us here value diverse input... particularly youthful input.

Those two are the exception, NOT the rule.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

5. It just surprised me.

The posters that said yes are typically posters who do not have problems debating with kids.

[BoX o BooX]

13. If you can frame an argument in a cogent manner, you belong.

If you can't, you probably voted for the Chimp.

Those two have an agenda, and nothing you or I say will deter them. They viciously attacked a wonderful member of this board, with no apparent remorse. Their posts will be hidden by their friends by tomorrow, but the vidcaps will live forever.

[sir_captain]

2. Yeah, I agree

I'm hardly under 18 myself, but I think that the idea, and particularly the way it was posited, said a lot more about some incredibly arogant 18+ posters (not naming any names, of course...) than anything else...

[Cahrlie]

3. Amen.

Although the most of the under 18 are at a disadvantage when it comes to debating politics (you need at least a full high school education to do that well), there are many teens that are as smart, if not smarter, than adults.

[Metatron]

4. I didn't really understand the reasoning behind it.

I value all opinions, as I would assume most of DU does. Besides, young DUers add a unique perspective that I appreciate :)

[LoZoccolo]

6. Yeah that was stupid.

But that's part of message-boarding - people being rude because it's easier to do so. I've learned to get offended but not waste much time doing so.

[Fenris]

7. Oh, that was a nauseating thread

There are a great number of us younger folks who can make far more cogent arguments than some so-called adults, and that particular thread proved it.

[jpgray]

12. You would say that, wouldn't you, you guttersnipe

:dunce:

[Fenris]

16. Indeed I would.

We guttersnipes have opinions too. Let us be heard!:D

[jpgray]

30. We should form a DU Guttersnipe Combine

Actually, Guttersnipe Combine would be a great band name.

[Fenris]

39. Guttersnipe Combine. It has a nice ring to it.

I'll start printing up the band t-shirts with Audrey Hepburn on them.:D

[JohnKleeb]

33. guttersnipe? thats a good one

:)

[Susang]

15. Damn skippy, Fenris!

Why do people automatically assume that they get wiser as they get older?

Being older does not mean that you deserve respect, particularly if you act as if your maturity level hasn't aged since you were 13. :eyes:

[Fenris]

36. That's very true.

I've often encountered people in their 30s who behave as immaturely as they were when they were in high school. Age matters not. Maturity does.

[jpgray]

8. Worse, I think his original grievance included no one in your age group

Some of the teenagers here like yourself and John are among the best DU has to offer, and I don't think the value of what anyone brings to DU can or should be measured by age.

[JohnKleeb]

23. right on

Thanks for giving us two props, I may be but a copycatter but I can debate with the best of them with a simple thing of facts.

[Nikepallas]

9. I took that thread to mean should something be their for their protection

I mean NOT to demean them BUT what if something inappropriate is said. (no I am not a fundie.) It is Excellent to see Teenagers actually expressing themselves but at the same time when I was younger if I came across or was PMed some "Shocking" pictures from Iraq I could not take it. I was a sensitive child and yeah I had my view points and all.


I short I just thought as a way of protecting not censoring them in anyway.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

21. Not to be rude, but what are you talking about?

I've been here for three years now. Politics is what I'm here for. If teenagers are unable to handle the consequences that come with debating serious issues, then they should not be here. I'm choosing to be here, and I don't want to be sheltered from anything that the adults are being shown. That is the highest form of censorship, and I won't have it. I don't want to be protected from the truth.

[Nikepallas]

41. True this is a political forum and politics should be talked about BUT I

I seen some political debates become cruel and very spiteful and just down right hurtful. Not only that I speak from personal experience. I spoke to an older gentleman about war and he stuck some GRAPHIC war photos in my face and told me I was just a snot-noise kid and should be in at least 3 types of war before I even begin to give an opinion. If anything I believe adults should encourage and help independent thought in teenagers. That is the big problem about high school now at days. My cousin complains she is not allow to debate anymore that she is told just remember the facts which have been told to her.

[BoX o BooX]

22. In fact, one of them refused to reply to me.

The male half of that team asked me my age, and refused to respond to me unless I told him... said he would not debate children, or something like that.

I replied, without stating my age... just mentioned that I am old enough to have grandchildren and that I have a couple degrees under my belt. Oddly, that reply was deleted.

And still he refuses to respond.

[Metatron]

37. That was weirdness, too.

I was quite confused.

[Susang]

Read this thread and tell me if you still think that was the intent

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=120x25472

[BoX o BooX]

38. LOL! Thanks, sus!

He has gone around the bend! That was a HOOT!

[JohnKleeb]

53. seems to me he thinks those he's argued with about the woodster

are younger than 18. I don't even know who Woody Allen is, ok I do but I don't.

[BoX o BooX]

57. Actually, anyone who disagrees with him is assumed to be under 18.

It's really not rational.

[JohnKleeb]

60. very irrational

pretty simplistic thinking, though I still dont knwo who Woody Allen is :D.

[Left Is Write]

78. He's a guy...

who shacked up for a long time with Frank Sinatra's ex-wife. ;)

[JohnKleeb]

79. now tell me who Sinatra is

hes the guy they named the space challenger after right?

[Left Is Write]

86. He's a guy...

...who hung out with Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford, and Joey Bishop.

(ready to throttle me yet?)

George Clooney in Ocean's 11? Originally Frank Sinatra's role.

[JohnKleeb]

88. That guy who I think had connections with that other guy

So thats Sinatra, I thought he was that guy who sang to that other guy then killed the one guy with the guy's girl.

[Left Is Write]

106. That's the guy!

;)

[norml]

62. I don't want to be critical of a fellow DU member or drive him away but

I must say that the thread to which you provide a link is quite a hoot!

[China_cat]

51. Haven't we overprotected kids in the last 30 years?

Tried to keep them from anything distasteful, 'morbid', human and natural to the point that when they do get out they find out the world doesn't even come close to resembling what they've been led to believe.

True, I might not want them in a porn room but in today's atmosphere there are so few places where they can learn to flex their citizenship muscles that tryin to keep them out would be SO counterproductive. After all, it isn't going to be other 18 year olds sending them off to die in the sand. And I'd much rather see them in here sharpening their talking points and debating skills than being so naive they don't know how to counter the crap that is going to come their way.

As for protecting their sensibilities from things like the Carlin 7, I learned the word fuck and it's use as a 12 year old in an all-girls, Catholic, cloistered convent boarding school. All you do is make yourself look stupid to the kids by pretending that these words have funny symbols in them or that they are too young to be hearing them.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

10. Well for the record

I enjoy the contributions of teenagers here and I think it's important for teens to be politically active and aware. What better way to learn about political issues? Most all the teenagers I've seen here (that I know are teenagers) have handled themselves exceptionally well and have been very mature.

There might be a few adults who have a problem with teens posting here, but I, for one, do not.

[qnr]

74. Strange. It has never even occurred to me to wonder what the

age of a poster was. I might disagree with a position, or even think a post is utterly foolish, but I've never attributed it to the age of the poster.

Edit: However, being an old fogey, rapidly approaching senility, I do have a rather bad habit of not remembering to reply to the Original Post.

[anti_shrub]

11. I don't get it

The people who started that thread are folks I used to think were examples of the best of DU, and now I'm wondering if we don't need a special symbol for cranky 40-something DU'ers who want to get the damn kids the hell off their lawn.

[hinachan]

14. I agree with you

When I first got into politics, I was 19, but I could kick any Repuke's ass in an argument over politics. I'm 39 now, and I love seeing young people here and on any board, getting actively involved in how this country works. The young adults of today are the left-leaning future of tomorrow, and if there are any "adults" who can't handle talking politics with them, I think it says more about the older person's level of maturity than the teen's.

[Bluebear]

17. I hate all the splinter group boards anyhow

When discussion is diluted and isolated we miss so much.

[JohnKleeb]

18. You know when I saw that thread

I thought the same thing, right on Maggie.

[UpsideDownFlag]

28. i took a cue from you and made a copy cat thread...helped to get the

point across.

[JohnKleeb]

65. really? I didnt see it

good job :). I had to copycat it, interestingly enough, yes or no both lost to "copycatting on a sunday afternoon is fun"

[norml]

68. Should There Be An "Under 18" Symbol For Woody Allen?

This copycat thread of mine was quickly deleted,without comment.

[JohnKleeb]

69. no one has told me who he is yet

:D

[alittlelark]

19. If my 17 yr old nephew had time to be on DU

He'd be kickin' ass on DU with FACTS..he is sooo together (and currently something of an anarchist). This up and coming generation is much more 'together and informed' than mine was (40 something).

Maybe there should be a different symbol for 'under 18', that the member can show after they have kicked some righteous ASS!

[PartyPooper]

20. Some of us old folks are teenagers at heart.

Does that mean we're disqualified, too?

:D

[JohnKleeb]

26. heh but I am 7 at heart!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

27. Good question

I think I'm a 12 year old at heart.

[Susang]

31. My brain thinks it's jailbait

My body thinks it's ready for social security. The truth lies somewhere in between. ;-)

[wickerwoman]

24. Don't let lazy impatient cranks fob you off.

I think many adult posters here get tired of explaining their premises and beliefs and they lash out on the most convenient targets when it's really the Freepers that are frustrating them.

Truely mature people don't have a problem slowing down and explaining themselves to learners. They recognize that it helps them to better understand their own beliefs. More proof that age and maturity have nothing to do with each other.

[mark414]

25. as a 19 year old, what insulted me the most

was his assumption that young people are the only ones who are rude or act like they know everything and make sure you hear them loud and clear.

it's not an age thing at all, and i don't want to hear that "life experience" crap either because i've met more than my share of 40 year olds who didn't have the life experience to talk about shit

[Bat Boy]

29. I want to know who's under eighteen...

Because when I find out I'm always astounded by the intelligence and perspective they show.

It gives me hope. Lot's of it.

[JVS]

46. I want to know who's under 18 so I don't accidentally break anti-pervert..

internet laws for telling a dirty joke in a chatroom that I thought was filled with 20 year olds, but they're 15.

[FM Arouet666]

32. I agree

Age is irreverent. I have been very impressed with the level of discourse from the younger crowd on this forum. Much more enlightened than I ever was at their age. Maybe we should have an icon to show that the poster is over 40. That way those responding can tone down the level of disquisition to allow our aged brains to comprehend. :evilgrin:

[Renew Deal]

34. It's a stupid idea.

We should just label everyone we don't like. Dumb

[norml]

35. As you can see from my posts on that thread I'm in agreement with you.

I was sad to see my "Should There Be An "Under 18" Symbol For Woody Allen?" thread deleted so quickly.

[Forkboy]

40. Hey,I'll take you youngin's opinion over that of the other poster anyday

Anyone tells you you're not welcome tell them to go fuck themselves.

[miss_kitty]

42. There have been many teens whose posts led me to believe

they were adults. So i guess that makes them so. I won't name names but there are about three guys and one gal. Those are the only ones I KNOW to be young people. And I was shocked when I found out in each case.

Now there are at least 2 'adults' posting on this board today who could use the teens of whom I speak as role models. Let's just say though, I am pretty sure they're not mature enough to do so. :eyes:

On Edit: OMG! the OP on this thread is another TEEN? colour me shocked again!

[JohnKleeb]

47. you clearly don't mean me

I am immature :).

[miss_kitty]

49. oh right

but now i see how intuitive you are, i change my mind, ya goof!

:P

[JohnKleeb]

50. I love being called goof

:D.

[miss_kitty]

58. That's my Nephew's nick

he just turned 18. He's the baby in the family and they call him 'The Goof'

[JohnKleeb]

I get called that whenever I act silly

oh you goof. ha.

[FuzzySlippers]

43. I think it's really quite simple.

If you don't want to get into arguments with kids, then don't do your debating on the internet.

[JimmyJazz]

44. I meant no disrespect with my post. I was not thinking in terms

of you being able to debate in the political arena. I was definitely thinking in terms of some of the racier stuff in the lounge. As I stated in my post, I saw someone old enough to be Kleeb's mom say something to him which I thought was completely inappropriate. I know he can handle himself, but he is still a minor!

I was just being an overprotective mom is all. I'm sorry if you were offended!

And, as I stated in my post, I don't avoid anyone because of their age! I love you guys - Kleeb and Name Not Needed can vouche for that!

[madrchsod]

45. i don`t get it either and i am surprised also.

first thing i never knew you or j kleeb were young adults until recently. although my daughter doesn`t post here she`s been reading du since she was 17 and has become politically aware enough that she is taking political science in college. if we old guys and gals can`t discuss what we have learned over the years and you can`t ask questions about our experiences- well we are pretty well screwed aren`t we. i`m to old to fight but never to old to consul...

[LDS Jock]

48. I agree.. no disclaimer needed

I saw his post in ATA. A stronger case could be made for a special symbol next to those who don't know what they are talking about, regardless of age. I think most of us here welcome you and others your age. Diversity is to be valued and embraced.

As a side note, a lounge topic about what other symbols next to names could make for fun.

[candy]

52. I just peeked at the thread and thought it was hysterical-----

One of the silly ones posted that some of us are in our forties and fifties and teenagers don't have the life experience for a serious discussion.

Pretty funny! I'm 72 and feel the same way about people in their forties and fifties.

I also hope you realize that the age thing is ridiculous and it's too bad it took place.

[Downtown Hound]

54. There should be no age-based discrimination on DU ever

If you can't handle yourself in an argument with an 18 year old, maybe it's you who lack experience and informed positions.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

55. Thank you

nt

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

59. Good point.

[212demop]

56. I wish I'd known at 18 that

I'd feel no smarter at 32 than I did then. I might have stopped all the self-censorship and taken more chances at expressing myself. There's nothing so mystical that comes with being an adult. And information isn't dangerous. It's misinformation and secrecy that's dangerous. Just look at our wonderful government for proof of that.

[gmoney]

61. "Won't somebody PLEASE think of the CHILDREN!"

...to quote Helen Lovejoy of the Simpsons. It's usually a last refuge of someone with a weak position they're trying to defend. Reminds me of something someone on AAR said this week: If a group has the word "Family" in their name, you know they're pissed off about something.

Freedom of speech isn't limited by age, and one of the original posters talks about not wanting to argue with someone under a certain age. Are we here to argue? No... if you want to argue, go to the Monty Python Argument Clinic, or Fark, or Fight Club, or Yahoo or Fr33R3public. Yes, we can encourage lively debate here, but the difference between debate and argument is what sets DU apart from the flamewar zones of those other places. A person's age never seems to enter into it around here.

On the other hand, if someone posts something outright idiotic, someone else will call them on it, regardless of age. Like LPFF did here.

[bloom]

63. Seems to me....

... that some people may want to discuss cheating on their spouses as if it is a good thing and don't want anyone to give them any grief for it. Or suggest that "adults' can but minors can't.

Personally - I think everyone should assume that they may be discussing "whatever" with their mother or their grandmother or their children or their grandchildren and basically anyone.... (except freepers, etc. :) ) and have that lead the topic and tone of discussion.

[chicagiana]

64. coherEnt

It's 'coherent' not 'coherant'.

When criticizing the writing skills of others, you may want to use the spell checker.

BTW, your senteces run on, try using a few more periods.

;-)

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

66. Wow, you are so cool.

It's 12:20 at night, and I've just finished writing four papers. Excuse me if I happen to spell one word wrong. That one error did not take away from my argument.

PS- There are no run on sentences in my original post. Please don't critique my writing if you're unable to do it correctly.

[St. Jarvitude]

75. He may have meant "sentence fragment"

I'm not going to point it out... but just removing one word from that sentence would make it "grammatically correct".

But fuck that, right? Grammar nazis have a special circle in Hell.

[sir_captain]

71. Were you being ironic

by using a run-on sentence?

[Metatron]

108. I am unfamiliar with this word "senteces"

And, I didn't notice the OP criticizing anyone's writing skills.

[JohnKleeb]

111. as they say in school

oooooooh got him.

[Metatron]

118. I was hoping you would catch that!

:evilgrin:

[JohnKleeb]

120. it was loverly

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

67. How many thousands of people post here?

Not everyone is gonna be a pip. That's what the Ignore button is all about.

[miss_kitty]

70. YO! Nice thread you started in

ATA

:evilgrin:

[JohnKleeb]

72. oh I just saw that

sweet stuff :D.

[PartyPooper]

80. Me, too. I wonder what the admins will think of it in the morning, eh?

:D

[miss_kitty]

81. He must be lying about his age

with a sense of humour like that, he's gotta be 50.

same with you kleeb!

:evilgrin:

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

73. Whatever, I need sleep for tomorrow.

I didn't expect so many people would respond to this. Thank you to those of you who did. I don't have the time or energy this late to respond to all your comments, but want you to know that I appreciate what you've said.

[WindRavenX]

76. Yeah because clearly the young have nothing to bring to the table

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
That thread was a goddamn shame to see on DU. Lately, that seems to be the tread.

[JohnKleeb]

77. but only hte young can taunt Ann Coulter

I am so envious of you for that!

[WindRavenX]

82. Sometimes it takes the fearless/stupid heart of the young...

...to do what's gotta be done :silly:
That bitch had it comin'!

[JohnKleeb]

84. oh if I were there

I would ask her so do you and Joe Mac still go out, like do you go to Wisconsin a lot on "digging" adventures.

[Name removed]

83. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[sir_captain]

85. Why are you so condescending?

Do you not understand the concept of irony? You've been demanding respect all day long...

[miss_kitty]

90. I have it ignored now

but I can ONLY imagine...

:eyes:

[the Princess]

103. Not condiscending at all.

:)

Maybe it's the way you took it. Maybe?

[sir_captain]

107. No, I don't think so

Considering that the post was just deleted, it appears I wasn't the only one who thought that way either...

[miss_kitty]

109. hahahahahahahaha!

not catching on to the obvious, are they now!

[WindRavenX]

124. bullshit

He was coddling her intelligence by referring to her as "sweetie". As in, "sweetie, we don't care what you think- let the big people do the talkin'".
Many of the teenagers on this board are among the smartest people I know on and off the 'net. They deserve respect.

[HEyHEY]

87. Remember the Breakfast club?

"If you were 16 what would you think of you?"

[miss_kitty]

92. I think we ALL know the answer to that

and the word is not 'cool'

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

89. I have to wonder

what has happened to you.

Maybe I just didn't see it before, but this seems new to me in you. You always seemed pretty laid-back and easy going to me before. What happened? (I ask with sincere curiosity.)

I really start to get my back up when I see teenagers get treated poorly when it is not deserved.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

91. Don't you DARE call me sweetie.

I do not appreciate the condescension. Especially from you, a person who knows nothing about me or how grown up I am.

[Downtown Hound]

95. What the hell makes you think you're entitled to more respect

than others on this board simply because you're older? Sorry, but respect is EARNED. It is not commanded and it is not demanded. Being older doesn't automatically give you respect. Maybe you'll learn that when your ego grows up.

[Left Is Write]

97. Respect is earned.

Calling this poster "sweetie" in this context is condescending and bordering on rude. I'm guessing it won't earn you any respect in her eyes.

She's young, intelligent, articulate, passionate, and involved in politics. And she's on YOUR side. We should be grateful to have young women like this fighting for the Democratic cause. Do you want to drive them away?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

98. By the way

commanded and demanded are near synonyms, so what you said makes no sense.

Respect is EARNED.

And I haven't seen a single damn thing the person who started this thread has done to deserve this kind of treatment from you.

[Forkboy]

100. Which is why you wont get any respect from me

You'll understand why when you grow up.

Bummer you thread was deleted a few minutes ago :crazy:

[WindRavenX]

102. unfucking believable

What the hell?

[Forkboy]

112. lol....keep trying

:silly:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

113. Tombstoned.

With all the toppings.

[argyl]

93. No discrimination against younger DUers please. They handle

themselves quite well. If they can't they're gone, the same as anyone else.

I enjoy their perspective on the events that are discussed here.For a guy like myself who's become somewhat cynical through years of struggling against a system that has become evermore gamed in favor of the powerful and ruthless,their optimism and hope for a better tomorrow is priceless.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

96. Hear, HEAR.

Very well put.

[Left Is Write]

99. I agree.

My daughter is the same age as the original poster. Like her, my daughter is passionate about causes she believes in. She and her group of outspoken liberal friends - in the midst of a conservative enclave - give me so much hope that this country can and will get back on the right track. We need them.

[miss_kitty]

104. I agree

and their detractor in this particular case? Ignored. and I don't know which one of the two of you it is, but if we all put them both on ignore, they WILL go away.

[Kali]

94. Screw that!

Why don't they just get themselves a "geezer that is too chicken to debate teenagers" symbol. geeez

:freak:


Lets just help train the next generation BY IGNORING THEM...great thinking. :eyes:

[Metatron]

101. Considering teenagers are the ones who will have to

face a draft, if it happens, I commend each and every one of them who chooses to spend their time on a political discussion board. Since there are no age limits (that I am aware of) to become a member of DU, each member is deserving of respect from the get go.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

110. Exactly

I'm always hearing people bitch that all teenagers do is play video games but when they do things like take part in a political debate, they are told to go home, aren't you up past your bedtime and generally run off?

WTF?

[countmyvote4real]

105. Fernet-Branca is not a cure for ignorance, but it could help

your nausea. I'm not suggesting that you are the ignorate source that needs to be cured. I'm only saying that if you're going to puke, it's a temporary relief.

Unfortunately, there is no Fernet-Branca solution for public opinion.

[barackmyworld]

114. I am 19, and wow that is ridiculous

Posts that are offensive or factless will be eliminated on their own. I think most of the young people are here because we really care about politics, and like to talk about it. I worked at the Boston headquarters for 4 months, and I saw tons of high school kids volunteering and holding the same intern position that I had. We're committed, and our voices are especially important because we are the FUTURE of the party. We see hundreds or thousands of people our age every day at school, and we have the unique power to reach them as a peer in a way that older people can not.

One or two bad apples is no justification for a "symbol," and they are also NO justification for claiming that one is necessary.

[Metatron]

122. DU thanks you for your hard work!

You should be proud of what you have done :)

[Djinn]

115. I'm OK with it

but only if we also get a crankly old bastard(& Bastardette) icon so we can discount the views of those to passed it to know better...oops did I just make a sweeping generalisation about an entire age group - how very unprogressive of me.

It's typical really people spend so much time criticising youth for not being informed and for not having an opinion then they tell them to shut up because you're too young to know when they DO put their opinions out there.

I so NOT "youth" anymore but thankfully no matter HOW old I get I wont make the presumption that people are ill informed because of their age - I know that when I was a teenager I was better informed than plenty of the adults around me.

Who do you think would do better in a political debate, Lauru Bush or Chelsea Clinton?

JohnKleeb and Leftpeople always have something interesting to say and the only reason I have a clue how old they are is that I remember being surprised when they mentioned it in the past.

[Forkboy]

116. Hell,Kleeb has almost all of us beat in the maturity department

:D

[JohnKleeb]

117. oh please

that is the biggest lie ever.

[Forkboy]

125. no,not really

seriously.Your modesty proves it :)

[JohnKleeb]

126. it is, I can be terribly immature

really ask anyone.

[Forkboy]

129. yes,but there's a difference between ACTING immature and BEING immature

[JohnKleeb]

130. ahhh right

true that.

[Djinn]

not more than Forkboy surely

:evilgrin:

[Forkboy]

132. hey now

:spank:

:P

[Djinn]

134. hey you know I'm kidding

but with certain people no longer around in the IP to poke I have to start on other people...come back gaby/gimel all is forgiven.

Is it REALLY bad that I actually like the flame wars here?

[Forkboy]

136. heh

I can lead you to GP if you really miss her that bad :)

Is it REALLY bad that I actually like the flame wars here?

Nah,I usually enjoy them too :shrug:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

119. Yep, I'd agree there.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

121. He beats me in maturity, for sure!

nt

[JohnKleeb]

123. sure Maggie

just like I am equally as smart as you, everyone knows youre smarter than I am. See you just proved it!

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

127. FOR THE RECORD

To the posters in question...

I never asked either of you to leave.
I never disrespected either of you.
I never asked you to apologize to me or for your opinions.

I have ALSO been here three years, so please don't throw the "seniority" of your husband onto me or anybody else.I simply posted a response to your opinion. I had every right to post what I did, as you had a right to post what you did.

I've never harboured ill will toward you or your husband. In fact, I had been very impressed by a lot of your previous actions here on DU. But I find it sick that in this day in age, people would have to be forced to wear a scarlet letter upon their backs, especially in such a progressive forum.

[DrGonzoLives]

128. ...and people wonder

why the youth in this country are so apathetic. Could it be because adults keep telling them to shut the hell up?

[Name removed]

131. Deleted message

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[miss_kitty]

133. well see there IS a site for that stuff

and DU isn't it. If someone is afraid of flirting with someone underage, themn they need to not flirt here and go to THAT site, where they can talk dirty to strangers, 'unleashed' as it were.

[T Town Jake]

135. That kind of behavior from the poster who started the thread...

...in question didn't surprise me in the slightest. That poster has always been an insufferable know-it-all in about every context/thread I've ever run across him in.

[Goldmund]

137. That thread was dumb.

And that whole CoLib/Princess team there, man... "I don't want to argue with a child.". Are they afraid to be outdebated by a "child"?

[Moderator]

138. Locking.

I think we have covered this topic sufficiently at this point.