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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:07 PM
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Those education commercials. Do you believe ANY of them?
Just saw one for ITT Tech and the guy, tired of minimum wage jobs, was boasting about how secure he felt his future was.

I just can't believe that.

Same for any of them.

I see no future here.

Or am I just depressed?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:09 PM
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1. The business of selling an illusory future has a great future. (nt)
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:09 PM
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2. I've seen
my fair share of Syvian Learning Center commericails. It made me want to go out and read and get an A on my next text just to make mom and dad proud.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:09 PM
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3. Some people (both potential employees and employers) just feel
better with a little piece of paper. I have close to 30 years computer experience, but no little piece of paper to prove it.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:13 PM
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4. Ah yes. But, especially in IT, jobs going overseas go to people who don't
seem to have that paper.

Which is my point on those commercials, especially the IT ones. If the trend is for jobs to leave the country, why continue promoting the same field in the US when it's just a waste of money?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:14 PM
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5. I know quite a few people that graduated from ITT...
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 06:18 PM by tjwash
...and have really good jobs in the field, some making over six figures. I also know people that were on the deans list at UCSD that are some of the most incompetent, inept people that you could ever work with. Your choice of schooling is just like anything else, it gets your foot in the door, the rest is up to you.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:25 PM
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7. Which fields are they in? How stable? Will they be offshored?
I know the rhetoric behind the good of education. I am asking what the point of it is anymore these days, when so many jobs continue to be hemorrhaged away?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:36 PM
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8. Anything that is...
...face to face dealing with customers or equipment, such as field service, installation, onsite network support, facilities tech support, etc. are secure. Field engineers are always where the rubber has met the road.

Jobs that can be done remotely, like programmers, and phone support for example, are jobs that are unfortunately being shipped off right now. My company is having logistical problems with that right now. The systems they provide are just too complex to "flow-chart" tech support over the phone, and customers are dropping their maintenance contracts because of incompetent tier one support. If it hits keeps hitting them in the wallet, I expect a return to onshoring, like IBM has been doing...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:38 PM
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9. Ah. That's mildly reassuring. Have there been attempts to devalue those
fields?
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:18 PM
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6. I was thinking of a Private Investigator's license
from one of those Sally Struthers commercials. Just kidding. ITT is one thing, but those commercial schools are totally different. I can't imagine anyone would take one of the certificates seriously.
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