Just when i thought Thomas Kincaide couldn't out whore himself

[AlCzervik]

he licensed his "art" to glade air freshener. I saw a commercial for the "Thomas Kincaide scented candle air Freshener---holiday collection!" Now all he needs is to sign a deal with playtex and then we can have Festive tampons!

[PittPoliSci]

1. you call that shit art?

i call it expensive toilet paper.

[AlCzervik]

3. no i don't, thats why i said "Art"

i think his stuff sucks.

[PittPoliSci]

27. me too.

i know you meant it sarcastically, but i wanted to call it shit and for some reason the phrase i had came to mind.

[crispini]

2. Wow.

What a complete tool.

7th circle of hell, that one.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

4. EWWWWWWWW

ugh. ugh. ugh. that man is the butt end of many artists' jokes. he is the kenny g of the art world, for sure.

[ImADeanDem]

9. OMG, "the Kenny G of the art world" made me ROFL! nt

[BlackVelvetElvis]

5. Makes me wonder what Kincaide smells like.

He must think he smells pretty good.

[alittlelark]

6. My mom has that stuff interspersed w/ her Fundie 'art'

...you know, the lion and the lamb, the blondie Jesus, the fundie view of heavan....

I have no appreciation for his form of 'art'.

[AlCzervik]

10. my hubby calls it Fart

Faux+art=Fart. I'm sure my sister in law is aquealing like a pig, gotta get to kroegers to buy out their stock and then call me and tell once again what a wonderful "arteest" he is.

[skygazer]

49. Ooh! Does she have "The Last Supper" on black velvet?

That's my favorite! :silly:

[FizzFuzz]

7. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Oh STOP you're killin me!!

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!

"Thomas Kincaide sweetens your stinky bathrooms!!"

Wonder if he'll do an indoor pastiche now, with a nice plate of beans on a rustic wooden table? Next to a quaint pull-flush toilet.

[tuvor]

40. LOL!!!

And I don't write "LOL" unless I've L'ed OL.

[Left Is Write]

8. Oh, yuck.

AIR FRESHENER?

[FuzzySlippers]

11. Well, at least the Glade is affordable.

Some of his crap is sold for thousands of dollars to gullible people.

[AlCzervik]

12. Yes, now the less fortunate Kincaise fans can thing of

him every time they take a dump. "Honey, where's that Thomas Keenncade candle, i need his goodness to lift away the stench of my failure"

[SmileyBoy]

17. LOL!!!

:D

[Proud2BAmurkin]

13. Thomas Kincaide, painter of air freshener jars

.

[gumby]

14. Perfect !

What else is there to say about 'the painter of light?'

ackackackackackackackack.........stinkstinkstinkstink...

[ydya]

15. The same idiots who think Kincaide is "art" probably also think that Bush

is moral.

[Stainless]

21. My Ex Girl Friend........

was a Kincaid Whore. She went broke helping him maintain his empire. I went to one of his "signing" events with her and about lost it when I saw how many idiots admitted having multiple copies of his so-called art. The term "Bullshit Artist" was invented for him.

[SmileyBoy]

16. Picasso, Rembrandt, Renoir, Warhol, Van Gogh, Hopper, O'Keefe...

All of them have been rotating in their graves ever since that idiot came onto the scene.

[azoth]

18. Bob Ross is chanelling "paint a big ol' tree and forget that light shit...

[Rabrrrrrr]

25. "And over here is a happy little cloud, and a happy tall tree,

and the happy little cloud, you see we paint this one with battleship gray, ecause it's a happy little thunderhead, and it's gonna popund lightning into our friend Mr. ShitWipe Kinkade. And the tall happy tree there, he's so happy because he's 800 tons of solid wood falling straight into that asshole's art studio, destroying his fake art and crippling him forever, so he gets to be a quadripalegic. And over here, in the happy little break in the cloud, is God, totally unlike what that asshole thought of God, and see how God is saying all this is Divine punishment for being such an asshole? Yeah, me, too. I hear it! You can have God say whatever you want, it's your painting. And in my painting, over on the cliff face that Kinkade has just been thrown down by enraged Cherubim - see how lands on the church steeple, impaling him? - well, on the ledge is this happy little crowd of real artists, Picasso, and there's a happy Monet, and Rothko, and Twomby, and Rembrandt and, well, hundreds of legitimate artists, all smiling happy little smiles..."

[CornField]

72. LOL -- and the chipmunk in his pocket giggled w/ glee

[BiggJawn]

78. "Light? No, I paint with 'Wet-on-Wet' (TM)..."

Bob, dude, you are truly missed...

[Elidor]

19. BEHOLD his Air Fresheners of Light!

They are highly valued ornaments for discerning people with simply no taste whatsoever. And yet - I'd sooner have his fucking air freshener hanging in my living room than one of his sad little commercial paintings.

[DS1]

37. Everything's brighter when framed by shit

Words to live by, my friend ;-)

[gumby]

20. OT, but did anyone see

that Picasso film the other night? I'd never seen that and it blew me away. Picasso was drawing/painting on some kind of glass medium being directed by a filmmaker.

The drawing/paintings were presented as they were produced with music. Amazing !!

[pansypoo53219]

22. the proper spelling

is Krapcaid.


sigh. my only consolation is that now that he want to 'do art'. he can't and he will never ever ever be in a museum.

[Rabrrrrrr]

23. Oh, sweet Jesus and Mary mother of God,

how can I hate that man any more? Well, now I do.

You are the lowest of the lowest, Mr. Kinkade.

God, I'm so angry, I can't even come up with insults for the useless toadstool asshole.

[AlCzervik]

24. Thats exactly how i feel

[Rabrrrrrr]

26. I hope his collectors, morons that they are, sue the hell outta him

for this, since it cheapens his art.

But then again, the brain dead shiteaters who buy that asshole's artwork are likely the type to think that "Holy Heck! He's on Glade air fresheners now! He really is an artist!!"

[AlCzervik]

29. How much money does he really need?

i mean he's got his shit licensed all over the place. You would think even he would at some point he'd realize he's a joke and take his money and slink away quietly.

[progmom]

35. Really? This makes you angry?

It's just crappy art for people who have too much money and want to buy brand name "art" to show their friends.

:puke:

[Phillycat]

50. Rabrrrrr is an artist. That might be why.

[GOPisEvil]

67. I'm a proud Rabrrrrrr Art owner, and I wouldn't trade for a Kinkade

if you paid me 10 times what I paid for the Rabrrrrrr Art.

Now, 100 times, and we'll talk...hell I can buy tons of Rabrrrrrr Art for that kinda cash. :D

[elehhhhna]

28. Still waiting for Kincaid Mellow Feminine Hygene Pads

[AlCzervik]

31. Kincaide-period of light!

[FuzzySlippers]

34. Well, if he can guarantee that --light periods--he will at last

have produced a valuable product.

[flamingyouth]

63. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yes. :D

[jobycom]

30. Well, to be fair, he was a decent artist before

he started painting with a Xerox machine. His technique is interesting the very first time you see. It's just that every time you see it after that, it's the same damn technique.

[grace0418]

32. Oh that guy is such crap!

We were on a family vacation and we stopped to ask our hotel concierge about good places to check out and good restaurants. She was very nice and gave us a long list of things to do and places to go as well as restaurants. We were pretty excited until she started listing the exact locations of all the local Thomas Kincaide "galleries" in the area. I ended up throwing out the list because I couldn't trust the recommendation of anyone who knew and readily offered that information.

[cliss]

33. Oh, I've seen just as bad.

The other day, I saw a Thomas Kinkade cookie mix. It had one of his ugly, cheap artwork on the outside of the bag. I just laughed.

Then, to my surprise, I saw in another catalog, Thomas Kinkade wrapping paper. Is there no limit to what this prostitute will do?

[SmileyBoy]

36. "Prostitute" is an understatement.

He's more like one of those really horny girls in Bangkok.

[FizzFuzz]

43. now hold on a minute-many many of those girls have no other choice

for survival because of poverty, widespread abuse of women and children and lack of education and jobs for girls. Not to mention boatloads of lying pimps trawling destitute rural areas for families willing to sell their daughters in exchange for pretty lies and a little money. It is tragic.

Better to think of the craven businessmen who hump their way through Asia looking for ever younger girls to use and discard.

[freeplessinseattle]

74. Here Here! Like M Moore said about it being an insult to deer

to say that * looked like a deer in headlights.

[tuvor]

38. He has a couple of Christmas CDs out, too.

Didn't know he was a musician!

[SmileyBoy]

42. You GOTTA be kidding me.

PLEASE tell me you're kidding me.

[tuvor]

69. And then some!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-1993256-0312926

[tuvor]

39. How does he compare to Mark Kostabi?

I have only a passing knowledge of Kostabi, but wasn't he an ironic darling of the NY art scene in the late 80s?

Kostabi. Kincaide. Kompare. Kontrast.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

41. How fitting is that?

I can't think of a better pairing!...stinky-sweet candles and stinky sweet pictures.

[Rabrrrrrr]

44. I think the morning crew needs to know about this blasphemy

:kick:

[Phillycat]

45. My best friend calls him "Thomas Kinkaide, Painter of Crap".

[Bunny]

46. Can I ask an uninformed question re: Kincaid?

Can you tell me specifically why he is so reviled? I'm asking out of ignorance - I have no training in art, and I don't own anything remotely connected to him. But what I've seen of his work seems to be nothing more than pleasant-looking pictures for the masses to hang on their living room walls. Beyond that, I don't get the derision for him.

Is he claiming to be on a par with Rembrandt or Picasso? If so, then his work is indeed dreck. But if he's just being a mass-market "artist", what's the big deal? Seriously, I don't get it.

BTW, the air freshener stuff? Tacky, tacky, tacky. I'll grant you that.

[cliss]

47. Thomas Kinkade

has made a career for himself painting quaint scenes from around the turn of the century. Nothing remarkable. Not bad, but not Renoir.

Kinkade's big mistake was to call himself "The Painter of Light". If anyone deserves that title, it would be Rembrandt. He made beautiful paintings with lots of dark shadows, and then highlighted it with faces partially obscured by the dark. Beautiful.

In a way, ALL painters are painters of light. They paint the way light hits certain objects, shadows and so on. But for someone to claim that title is pretty coarse, if you ask me.

[Piperay]

77. Kincaid prays over

his paintings, they showed it on 60 Minutes. :puke:

[northzax]

51. actually, I recall he said something along the lines

that his work would stand the test of time better than Picasso.

Anyway, who really cares all that much? he produces things that make people happy to own and display. What's the big deal? I personally, don't find much of his work worth looking at, but he's certainly not hurting anyone. (and, by the way, this is a completely logical backlash against 'modern art' much of which is both completely incomprehensible and irrelevant for home decor purposes. Sure, I can appreciate Dan Flavin's revolutionary use of neon in his iconic dedications (as well as his brilliant self marketing) but I don't really want a neon sculpture in the corner of my living room, you know?) Whereas I can have a cheap knockoff of a nice pastoral scene over the fireplace, goes well with the rest of my living room. (I'm only picking on Flavin since I just saw his retrospective at the National Galleries) Most people don't want art that challenges them to think, or makes them feel insecure cause they don't 'get it' they want art that makes hem feel good. Frankly, most post-modern art is aa reference to itself, and is made to disturb, rather than soothe. It is made on a scale that makes it irrelevant to the lives of anyone not connected with the industry. I don't need an interpreter to explain Brugel's The Triumph of Death to me, the symbolism is easy for anyone with a basicknoeledge of Catholic dogma. Likewise, I get the horrow of Guernica but it helps to have the context of the painting to fully get it. on te flip side, much of the art being produced today requires cultural touchstones outside the grasp of most people, it is elitist, so it shouldn't be auprise that the mass market follows the art they can grasp. it has always been so, it shall always be so.

[Shakespeare]

53. Yup-on 60 Minutes, Kincaid said he was greater than Picasso.

Possibly the single most hubristic bullshit statement I've ever heard.

[crispini]

54. Because he pretends to be a "Real Artist"

He and his Marketing Machine are representing him as the pinnacle of Wonderful Stuff, when in fact, it's pretty much just chintz and cheese. He never had anything of quality to begin with and now he's just ripping himself off.

If you're going to mass-market your stuff, Michael Graves, IMO, had the right idea. Nice products, nicely made, inexpensive, and fun.

[northzax]

58. How exactly is he different from Michael Graves?

oh, right, you like Graves' stuff. Me, I think it is absurd, I think he's a decent architect, but his toilet brushes are useless. selling your name is selling your name.

99% of all the art every created is 'crap' that doesn't stand the test of time. that doesn't make it any less 'art' (or does it? that's a whole different question) You may think it is chintz and crap, fine, I may think the same thing, but art these days is in fact marketing (hasn't it always been so?) How is he more of a marketer than Andy Warhol or Roy Lichenstien? both mass produced 'art' for popular consumption. Warhol in particular never touched 90% of the stuff that has his name on it, and yet it is all worth millions. Picasso sketches that sell for a hundred thousand dollars were often used by him to pay for meals and drinks. instead of paying his tab, he'd draw some crap on the tablecloth, sign it, and whammo, it's valuable. The art market is stupid, crowded with fakes and wannabes costing suckers millions of dollars. How is Kinkead any different? I find most of the animus directed towards him to be amusing, if you don't like the fucking art, don't buy it, but how is Kinkead being on Glade Air Fresheners any worse that van Gogh on T-Shirts? or Monet on coasters? or Munch on boxer shorts, or Mondrian on magnets? (all of which you can buy at the National Galleries, by the way) it is almost impossible to tell what will stand the test of time, be it 'high art' or workshop produced 'popular art' I don't know, you don't know, if we did, we'd be Duncan Phillips, who spent $100,000 on art in his lifetime, a collection worth $200,000,000 50 years after his death.

[crispini]

65. Kincaide vs. Graves.

Graves' cheap shit is cheap.
Kincaide's cheap shit isn't.

Graves designs a cheap toaster and sells a cheap toaster.

Kincaide paints one painting, sells the "original" for eighty bazillion dollars and says it's ART, does 500,000 "artist proofs" or something, which cost $3,000 each, which he has PERSONALLY TOUCHED in strategic places with his high-and-mighty Master's Brush, or perhaps paid one of his flunkies to do so, then licenses said painting for use on jigsaw puzzles, tea trays, wrapping paper, and now, Glade air fresheners.

Popular does not always equal crap. Just sometimes.

[Minimus]

73. Real art does not match your sofa.

[FuzzySlippers]

52. What I find so offensive about him is that he markets

his mass produced drek as "fine art" through his "galleries" and charges gullible people thousands for it. They think they're getting an investment that will appreciate in value and can be handed down through the generations with pride. And boy, are they wrong. If he just charged the $10 per print his stuff is worth, then I'd have no problem with him. Not my taste, but live and let live.

[crispini]

55. Exactly. You totally hit the nail on the head right there. n/t

[Bunny]

56. Okay, this helps me understand it a little better.

If he's charging thousands of dollars for stuff and telling people it's an investment, then he is duping the gullible. I don't see his stuff as any more of an investment than the Dale Earnhart Commemorative Plates.

If he really believes his paintings will stand the test of time, better than Picasso, he is deluded. In 50 years, his stuff will likely be looked upon with the same scorn as the "Dogs Playing Poker on black velvet" type artwork that was popular 40 years ago.

His paintings may be pleasant enough for the walls of the average home, but Picasso? Never!

[Rabrrrrrr]

66. Because he's a sonofabitch scam artist

That's the only art he knows how to do. He offers his "hand-painted" limited editions (which seem to have rather large "limited" editions) for thousands of dollars - into the 5,000 and up range.

And he keeps telling his collectors that his paintings are not just wonderful, but that they are excellent investments.

He sells his shit in malls.

He has dudes - can't remember what they're called - artists (and these are probably real artists who are struggling to eat because they won't compromise their own art; or else they're just average idiots hired off the street) who work in each of Kinkade's "Galleries" (which are actually just stores in malls) and who have been trained how to dab a couple splotches of paint onto a limited edition print to make each one an "original".

He's recently been sued by some of his collectors for telling them that the paintings are investments, and the people suing feel that Kinkade is flooding the market with his stuff which is reducing their potential as an investment.

Personally, I'd like to sue for being a piece of shit, but you can't do that in our current legal system.

[Politicub]

48. I hate that Thomas Kincaide shit

I remember reading about some crazy Thomas Kincaide tract home development in California. The homes weren't anything like his little idyllic cottages, but rather like any cookie cutter tract home in the US. I think the article was on Salon.com, and it was hilarious.

He's one of the biggest whores of them all. I vomit a little in my mouth each time i see his garbage.

[northzax]

60. interesting

since many people determine something to be 'art' when it gets an emotional response from the viewer, even disgust and hatred. wouldn't this then rise to the level of 'art'? If it gets this visceral of a response from you, then he must be doing something, no? Frankly, I don't feel anything at all when I see it. hmm.

[Politicub]

62. I disagree with your analysis

It's as much "art" as the ubiquitous Nike swoosh or the abundance of Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurants. It's just over-exposed branding. I don't consider branding to be art. It's evidence of good public relations and heavy spending on advertising, perhaps, but it is not art.

[Tracer]

57. He doesn't even 'paint' his 'art'.

He's got some sort of assembly line painters to do the tacky messes.

Then he ambles down the line with a paint brush and slaps on a dab or two and signs his name.

(Saw this on 60 Minutes several years ago).

[northzax]

59. so? neither did Andy Warhol

you think rembrandt actually painted everything called a "rembrandt?" every single brushstroke? You think Michealangelo was the only person to hold a chisel to "David?" you think Raphael actually painted all those Frescos in the Vatican?

Do you give credit to Frank Llyod Wright for the Guggenheim in New York? Why? he didn't actually build it, he simply told someone else how to build it.

[tuvor]

70. And again, I'll bring up Mark Kostabi.

I think the only difference is that being a charlatan was part of his persona.

[Shoeempress]

61. Real Art cannot be purchased in the mall. Sorry that is my

elitist, obnoxious belief. His stuff looks like the crappy prints sold in K-Mart, the only difference is he charges an arm and a leg. His popularity is further proof that civilization is coming to an end. I have a client that periodically I have to meet with at his office, and he has lots of this garbage on the walls of the conference room. I'm still trying to find a spot where I don't have to look at any of these nauseating pictures. And by the way, I know nothing about art, am happy to admit it, but I know what isn't art when I see it.

[tuvor]

71. It's all art. The difficulty is

in determining to what degree something is good art or bad art.

{I don't know much more than you, either. This is the culmination of two semesters of Philosophy of Art courses.)

Put it another way: Mozart created music. John Cage created music. The Shaggs created music. No one ever disputes that; if anything, they dispute how good or how bad it is.

Same thing here. Thomas Kincaide makes art. Bad, bad, baaaaaad art.

[Mist]

64. Thomas Kincaide = saccharin alert

[Polly_Sorbate_60]

68. This guy paints?

I thought he just squatted over a canvas and let it fly.

[KT2000]

75. Perfect! - Toxic stuff

those air fresheners. Anderson Labs found that mice exposed to the air from air fresheners suffer neurological damage.
Maybe that is supposed to make people buy more of his crap

[Piperay]

76. I bet my cousin is going to have

to get some of that stuff, she loves Kincaid. Actually has one of his stupid 'paintings' hanging above her fireplace with a spotlight on it. :puke: My cousin is also RW repug into 'moral values'. :puke:

[Bridget Burke]

79. You can decorate your entire house in Thomas Kinkade....

Start with wallpaper & borders: http://www.helloandgoodbuy.com/main/productlist.asp?ManufacturerID=13&CollectionID=278

His stuff initially reminded me of the covers of Gothic Romance Novels (back before they featured bare-chested Flavios). On a Dark & Stormy Night, a young woman would be depicted fleeing a Great House, Castle, etc., with a light burning in one (1) window. Corny but dramatic. However, Kinkade has lights everywhere, producing a dull overall glow effect with insipid colors & no drama. And he sells this crap as fine art, at a high price!

"Modern art" is a century old. There's plenty of good figurative art being made, for those who care to look. And those who just want some pleasant decoration can buy tasteful prints (already framed) at Bed, Bath & Beyond for far less than Kinkade's saccharine crap.

I'm no elitist; Juxtapoz is my favorite art magazine. And I own a few Mary Engelbreit kitchen items.