I saw training pants for kids up to 125+ lbs today

[liontamer]

In the regular drugstore. Is this a convenience for parents with disabled children or is toilet training becoming more lax these days?

[teach1st]

1. Or are kids getting bigger? N/T

[liontamer]

5. bigger yes

but that much bigger, without being toilet trained?

[teach1st]

If you try and toilet train 'em, they beat you up!

[liontamer]

7. lol

but then who changes them?

[tavalon]

15. We do

the parents. See my other post. I know this is a joke post, but the reason for the need for these items is so not a joke.

[tavalon]

17. Yeah, they often do n/t

[On the Road]

2. Maybe They're for Little Old Ladies

pretending they have grandchildren.

[liontamer]

3. but that is a completely different section

and wouldn't need pictures of cars and teddy bears

[TheDebbieDee]

10. I agree. That's exactly who they're for.

Who wants to be seen buying Depends when they could be seen buying training pants for huge toddlers. :-)

So nice of the manufacturer to be so sensitive to the consumer's needs.

[alexisfree]

4. oh shit.....

that is for adults rigth???

[liontamer]

6. no the adult undergarment section is on a seperate aisle

this was for kids.

[Boswells_Johnson]

8. LOL....maybe

that's the combined (child + load) weight.

[teach1st]

9. Kidding aside, I have had many students...

...in my fifth grade class who need these. It's not toilet training, it's bed-wetting, which is a fairly common problem.

I find out when we go on an overnight field trip at the end of the year and parents tell me.

[liontamer]

12. I thought there was medication for bedwetting

is it not always effective or do some parents prefer to avoid medicating their kids?

[teach1st]

18. I think that there are multiple causes...

..for bedwetting at that age, both physical and psychological, and that medicine helps some, but not all.

In addition, in my area, parents may not be able to afford medication. I had a kid break a bone and the kid had to go a week without a cast (with a fairly sturdy temporary cast) until her parents could finally pay for the cast.

[skygazer]

11. I would think at some point

They would segue into Depends. But leave it to the manufacturers to make money off specialized products that could just as well be addressed by products we already have.

[liontamer]

13. well they were cute looking

If i were a kid I'd prefer them

[skygazer]

19. At a certain point I draw the line

If it's something the kid is going to keep in his room and play with, i'll care how it looks. If it's an article of clothing that others will see, I'll care how it looks. If it's something that's going to get soiled with urine and feces, I don't care what it looks like as long as it works.

I always crack up at the attractive patterns on paper towels. They're for wiping up gooey messes, not using for all your decorating needs! Why should I pay more because it has little ducks with aprons on it? (no offense, Ducky, if you read this)

[tavalon]

14. Well

1/150 children are now on the autistic spectrum. Potty training is extremely hard for them (I know as a parent), so yes, the market is responding to what our government did to our kids. There is a much higher need for these things now than there was before 1988. Luckily, the need will begin to taper some by the end of this year, but the huge numbers of children who were damaged during those 16 years will continue to need these items in record numbers.

The concept of the short school bus is starting to go away too, now that the special ed classes are bursting at the seams with autistic children.

Oh, and don't buy the BS that there isn't enough money to research Autism, there's been billions spent on the cover-up around it. It no longer amazes me what lengths our government will go to to cover the asses of their corporation friends, but my Autism research was my first real view into that. Astounding.

[liontamer]

16. I'm confused as to what you think causes autism

and how the cause is declining

[tavalon]

22. I'm a nurse

Been one for 15 years. Believed the party line that vaccines are perfectly safe and the greatest thing mankind ever did for themselves. Then I met J. and his mom told me that she blamed herself for his autism because she let him have vaccines. So, I went to do the research to prove to her that she didn't cause anything. I'm a really good researcher - it's one of my greatest strengths. I knew it would only take me a few days to get the info and get back to her. Three weeks later, I was obsessed with the topic and I dug, and dug, and dug.

The F*cking bastards lied to us. I even found out when they found out what they had done and what they've been doing to cover it up.

Short version - Many of us have a genetic dysfunction in our ability to remove metals from our bodies (about 30% of us to be exact), normally not such a big deal. However, in 1998, the government, in cahoots with Eli Lilly, decided to start vaccinating the captive audience (newborns while still in the hospital) for Hepatitis B. The safe legal limit for daily exposure to mercury is 0.1mcg/kg/day. The Hepatitis B vaccine had 12.5mcg of thimerosal as a preservative. Thimerosal is 48.7% ethylmercury by weight. Newborns are usually about 4 kg at birth. Three years later, the rate of autism skyrocketed. Most autistic children are diagnosed at between 2 - 3 years of age (earlier now, because the healthcare providers are so used to seeing it - it used to be 1/10,000 children). In 1999, they took the thimerosal out but to keep from alarming the parents, they didn't recall what was already out there. It was used up by the end of 2001. Now, the numbers are beginning to come down.

This is a short synopsis of what I spent two years obsessively researching. It was supposed to be a couple of days. In the process I found the cover-up and have since watched the efforts to continue the cover-up (very effective).

It broke my heart and destroyed my faith in my profession. I still told J.'s mother it wasn't her fault, she had a gut feeling but it wasn't her job to know, it was mine. It was my fault. Mine and every other healthcare provider, the CDC, the IOM, Ely Lilly and the researcher, Verstaedten, who helped with the cover-up. All of us and so much blood on our hands, it will never wash off.

[liontamer]

23. i recently read a study in which researchers found no link

between vaccines and autism. Have you read the same study, and do you know which type of vaccine they followed

[tavalon]

25. Of course you did

And yes, I'm sure I've read the study. Lets see, would that be the one from Sweden or the third time re-do from Verstaedten? Or, wait, wasn't there that other one that looked at the MMR? Yeah, I've seen them all and they are all either looking at the wrong aspect or futzing with the retrospective statistics, which by the way, is one way to not find what is staring you in the face.

There are small (not well funded - the CDC assiduously avoids funding any autism research that might uncover their little cover-up) studies that are rapidly buried that have shown pretty definitively what happened, but they need to be recreated on a massive scale to be able to really have the evidence and they can't get the funding.

Oh, and then there is the usual tactic, marginalize the people who know the truth. Or buy them off, like they did with Verstaedten - apparently a soul of his caliber sells for about $600,000 a year, or at least that's what Merck Medco was willing to buy it for.

on edit: all of my research is in Texas right now and I'm nowhere near as on top of the day to day on this topic as I used to be. Around 2002, I figured out that our country was being taken over by fascists and that my autistic boy wasn't going to get to grow up at all if I didn't start focusing on the current administration. I'm fairly sure that when I do get back to this research, it will just be new day/same shit.

[tavalon]

26. Why Merck Medco

and not Eli Lilly, you might wonder? Eli Lilly has the patent on thimerosal, but Merck Medco is the one who used it in their nifty little Hepatitis B pediatric vaccine during those years.

[Krupskaya]

20. Late bedwetting is not uncommon...

...even for kids who aren't autistic. Adults who buy these overnighters often have discussions at the checkout counter and you'd be surprised how many people have kids who don't stay dry at night.

Speaking from experience. It's not funny, but it's no big deal.

[liontamer]

24. i know some kids wet the bed

i was just shocked to see something marketed to kids in what i considered adult sizes

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. kids are getting chunky

that kid would be my size....weird