I had an insane nightmare last night--interpret it for me.

[Phillycat]

Last night I had one of those nightmares that's so bad that you wake up gasping for breath, have to turn on a light, and don't go back to sleep for an hour or so.

Here's what happened: I was in a cabin in the woods with a bunch of other people. They were partying, I wasn't. I went into the bedroom alone to sleep. While I was in there, a guy (I knew him in the dream but he is nobody I know in real life) came in and he was pressuring me to...ahem, you know. Then ANOTHER guy came in and 2nd guy was whacked out of his mind on coke and was saying how he was going to rape me. So guy #1 defended my honor or whatever, told the other guy to leave. I was grateful and so I decided that I would, in fact, sleep with guy #1 (WTF?). So then the sex was going on, and I opened my eyes, and it was guy #2 down there, not guy #1! And guy #1 was standing next to me, laughing.

I freaked out, started screaming, and they both laughed and said they were going to kill me and I'd never get out of that room alive. They then both left. I was lying there, paralyzed the way you can only be in a nightmare, and FINALLY I managed to get up, and for some reason, I had like 4 pairs of shoes on the floor and I was trying to gather them all together with my purse and get the hell out of there (WTF? Like I would care about possessions in real life). Just as I had managed to gather everything and was going out the door, the two guys came back in, HOLDING A DEAD BLOODY GOOSE BY THE NECK. They were still laughing, saying, "Ha! You thought you would get away??" and brandishing the goose at me.

That's when I woke up.

What do you think?

[Worst Username Ever]

1. a couple of questions

a) is there anyone you trust who you fear could betray you or has someone betrayed you in the past (not necessarily men)

b) anyone out there you outright think could somehow take advantage of you (not necessarily sexually and not necessarily by men) or have you been taken advantage of

c) any love troubles as of late?


edited for clarity

[Phillycat]

4. Answers:

A) Yes, I have been betrayed pretty badly in the past, mostly by family members, but some by guys too.

B) I feel right now that I am being taken advantage of by my boyfriend, in that he doesn't appreciate me. I'm much more "into" the relationship than he is, and he can pretty much take it or leave it, it seems. That hurts, of course, and I feel sometimes like he's doing it deliberately, even though I know he's not.

C) See above. :)

[Worst Username Ever]

20. Psychoanalyzing dreams is certainly not an exact science

but your answers reveal quite a bit! I would say somewhere you have a fear of being betrayed by someone you trust (your rescuer, in the dream), there is a fear that that betrayal could cost you dearly (physical/emotional pain, feeling of loss (often times in dreams being physically brutalized can relate to being emotionally brutalized)).

That is the quick and dirty. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape!

[Phillycat]

25. I think you're pretty much right on the money.

FEAR of loss (self-centered fear), fear of betrayal/abandonment...these are big themes in my life at the moment.

[DS1]

2. I think you should switch from "The Swan" to "Extreme Makeover"

:shrug:

[Phillycat]

5. LOL!

Hmm. I've never seen either of those shows, but thanks for the advice!

[illflem]

3. Sounds much like this one

My introduction to the game occured upon arrival at Cheney's hunting lodge near Greybull, Wyoming, and it physically and psychologically devastated me. I was sufficiently traumatized for Cheney's programming as I stood naked in his hunting lodge office after being hunted down and caught. Cheney was talking as he paced around me: I could stuff you and mount you like a jackalope and call you a two-legged deer. Or I could stuff you with this (he unzipped his pants to reveal his oversized penis) right down to your throat and then mount you. Which do you prefer?

The blood reached my shoes and caught my attention. At last, when I could speak, I begged, "If you don't mind, can I please use your bathroom?"

Cheney's face turned red with rage. He was on me in an instant, slamming my back into the wall with one arm across my chest and his hand on my throat, choking me while applying pressure to the carotid artery in my neck with his thumb. His eyes bulged and he spit as he growled, "If you don't mind me, I will kill you. I could kill you - Kill you - with my bare hands. You're not the first and you won't be the last. I'll kill you any time I goddam well please." He flung me on the cot-type bed that was behind me. There he finished taking his rage out on me sexually.
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2/cheneyvp.html

[Phillycat]

7. Good god.

Where the hell did that come from? (I'm not clicking on that link, no WAY.)

[Whoa_Nelly]

6. Under stress lately?

Or too much T-Day dinner?...or both?

I find the part about having to gather your shoes interesting.
From this site:
http://www.soulfuture.com/dream_dictionary/symbols_s/shoe_dream_dictionary.asp

Dream symbol: shoe
shoe, shoes, shoo, shooing, shooed

Interpretation:
The condition of the shoe and your association with the type of shoe will provide further interpretational clues
Something that you need to incorporate in your life e.g. a sports shoe may be encouraging you to become more physically active
A shoe is indicative of your opinion of your standing in life
Removing your shoes may denote reverence, respect or humility
Needing to recognize opportunities when they present themselves, if the shoe fits, wear it
Being able to accomplish something as easily or efficiently as somebody else, filling their shoes
Ridding yourself of judgment, needing to walk in another’s shoes before judging
Viewing something from a different perspective, standing in somebody's shoes
Being apprehensive or fearful, shaking in your shoes
A homonym for shoo, driving somebody or something away

Dream Dictionary Homepage:
http://www.soulfuture.com/dream_dictionary/dream_dictionary_main.asp

Also says, re: rape:
Dream symbol: rape
rape, rapes, raping, raped, rapist, rapists

Interpretation:
Feeling abused, disrespected, violated or drained at any level of your being
Feeling overpowered, helpless, victimized
May be a regurgitated memory for someone who has been raped, and a need to confront the fears behind the memory
If you’re the rapist, perhaps you’re knowingly taking advantage of someone or violating their inner sanctum


Related symbols: sex
http://www.soulfuture.com/dream_dictionary/symbols_r/rape_dream_dictionary.asp

[Phillycat]

10. WOW.

Feeling abused, disrespected, violated or drained at any level of your being

This is very helpful, thank you.

[DS1]

16. Oh come on, it's the shotgun approach to psychiatry

Shoe
Shoo off
feelings of cold feet
lack of sock
feeling like hard wood floors - cold - death
*yawn*

These sites just hammer out everything they can think of regarding shoes, which in this case isn't a lot, and want ~you~ to decide which one fits.

[Phillycat]

17. Well, the shoe definition wasn't very helpful to me.

But the rape one was.

[bettyellen]

8. well let's see......

the guy thing sounds a lot about not trusting a person or situation, fear of being tricked -- could even be by yourdself: pressuring yourself into something, being too sober or too strung out (maybe emotionally) to make an important deciion?
or fooled by someone who has bad intentions, sounds like you feel all ooptions suck for different reaons, or like the odds are stacked against you.
there seems to be an acknowledgement that you need to really think this through as soberly as possible.
2 pairs of shoes= 2 options what path to take. the dead goose is like feeling it's a no win. Your cook will be cooked.
Whoa, that was a weird one! I thought mine was weird last night!
I had to climb alot and sit precarious places and am afraid of heights! That's when I wasn't making out wit Harrison Ford or Anthony Edwards!

[Phillycat]

11. Your thread is what made me remember this nightmare.

I saw your thread title and I was like, WHOA!! And it all flooded back.

all ooptions suck for different reaons This is SO TRUE. You don't know how true this is. Thank you for that.

Your interpretation fits with what's going on in my life, that's for sure. You're good at this! Thanks. :hi:

[bettyellen]

14. and with my own dreams, i'm always like WTF?

I have know a lot of us to have the showe dream, and it's always about how you see yourseld + where you are going.
I think you wanted to get out of there with as much of yourseld + your options intact. I think that's a good thing!
Try to comb out the details you know were little things that came up in conversation lately - that's the stuff that's usually less meaningful.
The trust/ taken advantage theme is way too strong too ignore. It seems you're saying you want out.

[ghostsofgiants]

9. The first paragraph sounds like something out of a David Lynch film.

The second paragraph is just fucking weird.

[Phillycat]

12. No shit!

Imagine living in my brain!

[ghostsofgiants]

28. Haha, my dreams are actually much more bizarre...though less scary, haha.

[SOteric]

13. I'd guess it probably represents some

fear of, or belief of, being violated, betrayed and threatened. By whom and under what circumstance is something only you would know. :shrug:

[Phillycat]

15. Thanks.

I think I'm starting to get a handle on just what that might be, after reading the posts on this thread. You guys are so helpful! :)

[indigobusiness]

18. Wow! that is so rich in symbolism and psychological complexity...

where does one start to sort that one out?

the betrayal and trickery and ...shoes? A bloody goose, to boot.

One can only wonder what your sex life is really like. But, your nightmares are a technicolor trip.

[Phillycat]

22. YEAH they are.

They're not always that vivid and I certainly don't remember them so thoroughly normally. This was a bad 'un.

[indigobusiness]

33. It might've been traumatic

but when your subconscious mind fully works it out, it might prove beneficial.

-edit

Get plenty of egg nog, in the meantime.

[liberalmuse]

19. Fascinating.

Only you can interpret your nightmare because some of the symbols in the dream may have personal meaning. For instance, with it being turkey day, why did you dream of a dead goose? Turkeys can't fly, but geese can--that may mean something. There were only 3 people in the room, but why did you end up picking up 4 pairs of shoes? And on and on.

As horrific as nightmares can be, they usually happen when you are going through something very emotional, and they are very, very valuable in letting you know what you need to change or accept about your life.

[Phillycat]

23. Thanks for your thoughts.

I am getting a lot of insight from posts on this thread and my answers to them. It's been an interesting exercise!

[hippiechick]

21. If I may play devil's advocate ...

Apply your dream to the general election & the grief process that so many of us are working through ...

Guy # 1 could be symbolic of Kerry, The Democratic Party, 'our side' in general.

Guy # 2 is the BFEE, The GOP, Bush, The Media.

You were being pressured by # 1 (was Kerry your first choice as a candidate, or did you 'go along for the bigger purpose'?) ... then guy # 2 came in, in full attack mode (the GOP's assault on liberals in general, and all that is decent in our society).

Guy # 1 defended your honor - the Dems said they would stand up to the GOP, count every vote, 'no defeat no surrender' ... then when you thought you could trust him, he fooled you and was actually in cahoots with Guy # 2 (concession speech, not standing up to Reid, Gonzales, Rice nominations, etc).

Then you were trying to leave. Can the shoes represent choices, issues, means of movement ? You couldn't gather them, they were scattered ? More than you could grasp/hold ?

The goose could be symbolic for 'our goose is cooked', or that the parties/authorities/aggressors are going to prey on innocents, make sport of the natural resources of the land.


I am not a dream analyst, this is all 100% JMHO.


:hippie:

[Phillycat]

24. Interesting!

That's a new interpretation. And a fascinating one, to boot. I will have to mull that over.

No, Kerry wasn't my first choice, actually. Hmm...

[autorank]

26. Hmmm...how do you feel about that?

The cabin is your hope for the nation to return to it's mythic purity. Your partying friends are the current citizenry which can't take things seriously enough to ever approach stability and good behavior. Guy# 1 represents Kerry and he appears to offer you comfort but in fact he's in cahoots with Guy # 2 (and I'm sorry to say this), Bush. Your 'freak out' was entirely appropriate for the situation -- your enlightenment point in the dream. You dissociate (paralysis) to take yourself away from the trauma and then try to leave, which means put this awful reality of filth and betrayal out of your mind. Good choice but it won't work...they're back!!! to remind you of the horror of our collective predicament. The goose symbolizes the American Eagle; the destruction of our system by the two parties which tolerate and enable one another to the detriment of our values, safety, and liberty. You are a prophet!

[Phillycat]

29. Dear god, I think I AM a prophet!

A similar thing was posted upthread and I find it absolutely fascinating. Thanks for your take. :)

[autorank]

34. Hippiechic is a licensed dream catcher!

I interrupted my post (when there were six) to eat some chilly. I then sent 'hippiechick' my message, forget I'd done that, and posted mine. She's right on everything but the goose and she could have done a bit more with the paralysis. That's strange that we both came up with the same thing. Hippiechick is a trip!

[short bus president]

27. No hoagies OR pizza paddles?

I've gotta say, I'm somewhat disappointed.

;-)

[Phillycat]

30. Yeah, sorry.

I wouldn't have chosen any parts of that dream, believe me. :(

[murray hill farm]

31. your dream is an easy one.

starting with the cabin in the woods and the party folks...u are in a place where u want to feel it is ok and safe, but u know it is not..still u go with it...this is happening in your life right now..it is how you feel about your life. then you are in the room with the guy...then second guy..first guy saves you and you go with him...cause he is the safest course..seems safest...that too is how you feel about your life right now...u are with someone who u know is not safe..or cannot provide u the safety you need but it seems the best way for u to go right now...even though u know it is not..you go for it...in the dream, the first guy reveals that he is even less a symbol of safety and will betray you..make u even more vulnerable than u would have been without him...u know this in your real life too..about the guy you are with. the shoes? you are trying to wear too many shoes...play to many roles in your present life than is good for you..but still..no matter how dangerous it was in the dream to collect and maintain those "shoes" or..in real life.."roles" , you did! What is your dream telling you? No matter how many roles you play, this relationship is unsafe..the one you are in...and continuing to stay in it will destroy you...and you know this..have known it for a while...it was your dream..your subconscious talking to you..! Hope this helps. Dr. Pat

[Phillycat]

32. Well, then!

Damn. That's a little more truth than I wanted...but you are absolutely right, probably. Of course, that doesn't mean I have to make a decision right now, but it does mean that I'm subconsciously processing things...which is a good thing. So I guess I'll know when it's time to make the decision?

Are you really a dr?

[murray hill farm]

35. Yes, Psychologist

private practice, but retired now! Of course..that is what you are doing..processing..and yep..it is a good thing..u are lucky that u are so in touch via your dreams! Dreams are gifts we send ourselves from our subconscious! And..this may not even be real..this feeling that your relationship is "totally" unsafe or wrong..it may be...but it may also be something u are feeling right now..based on fears from someone else who betrayed u in the past..and something your boy friend did recently that might have reminded you of it...and then u have the dream that is saying to you..."look out" "be aware" etc. but it will be..the dream...about something that happened that triggered this fear...or it could be that u do know that your relationshi is not what you need to feel safe too...just know it was your dream..came from you..from your selfconscious.