Anyone want to form an Acceptance True Blue Democrat Group?

[GingerSnaps]

I was thinking about the type of group that would include everyone which would be a true blue democrat group. Everyone is welcome to join and Acceptance will be in our heart and we will make it our motto. We have enough negativity in this world and we don't need it from anyone that wants to make others miserable by talking someone else down.

Just a few rules.

No one can mandate the group, no spreading rumors about anyone, you can't talk about other people in a negative way, if you don't like someone you can't make it known.

We could name it the True Blue Democrats group. :D

[autorank]

1. I'm always in need of "Accepetance." Sign me up.

god, that sounded pathetic on my part! I actually am impervious to the opinion of mere mortals. However, I'll join the group because, being impervious, I never complain!

[GingerSnaps]

3. I was thinking about DU

If you let hate build up in you then you will become a republican. I wouldn't want that to happen :hug:

[Droopy]

2. I don't know

I think most of the people here are true blue Democrats. We sure have our differences, but I don't think that diminishes your loyalty to the party.

[ogradda]

6. i have to agree with that

pretty much all of us are democratic aren't we?

[GingerSnaps]

7. I will admit it

I am an outcast and you see I can't join anyone else's group so I wanted to create one of my own. :D

Just kidding!

I was trying to describe what the Democratic Party stands for. When someone hates they become a Rethug. I try to find good in everyone and if something happens that they don't like me that's cool. But, I will still like them because I don't hold any grudges. :hug:

[Droopy]

11. I agree with you about the hatred

and I think you are a true blue Democrat.

I've been on a conservative message board before and the hatred was so thick you could taste it. It's nothing like the petty squabbles we have here at DU. This is a very friendly message board compared to the alternatives and I think that it's a tribute to the people who post here.

[GingerSnaps]

17. Thanks Droopy

I use to post on the MSN board before DU was born and the hate was so thick that you could cut it with a knife. :hug:

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[Droopy]

10. Well in my view the Dem party is all about inclusiveness

My advice to you is that there are a lot of gay people who post here. You should take the time to get to know them. I'll bet it will change your mind on the homosexuality issue if you open yourself to these people. You will see that they just want to be treated like everyone else. That would include their right to marry each other.

I think your kids will be better off if you teach them that gay people have been discriminated against and that they are the subject of a lot of hatred from a lot of people. I think empathy is the key. Surely, if you are a muslim you can understand that.

[GingerSnaps]

12. I am so happy that my parents taught us to love everyone

I have no hatred against anyone except I do hate * and the rethugs that took our voting rights away.

Hate causes hate.

Good advice that you gave the poster :hug: I was trying to find people that can share ideas that don't deal in any type of negativity. Creativity comes out of non negativity most of the time.

:hug:

[Pepper32]

25. Hey, I can understand what you are saying

but I feel this way... If we let our government discriminate against any group of people in this country, what makes us think they will just stop with that group of people? So, for the equality of ALL I support any two people that love each other and want to marry. Doesn't matter what my personal issues are regarding gay people or whomever lifestyle. I'm not going to interfere with someone's rights in this country.

[GingerSnaps]

8. OMG This is the type of thing that you shouldn't let eat you up inside

I am a heterosexual but I don't care if someone is gay, bi or straight..I still love them.

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[demodonkey]

13. I don't actually hate Republicans as people but SURE DO HATE how they act.

Personally I NEED to hold onto that hate so as to keep up my strength for the fight against those who would destroy all that I believe is true and honorable.

So I guess that I might not be cut out to fit into your group... but hating injustice and dishonesty is one of the truest, bluest things a Democrat (or anybody) can do, IMHO.

[JohnKleeb]

14. does this mean even accepting those who disagree with us on issues

because I feel like puking when people talk about forming an only progressive party, I don't have anything against progressive ideals, those ideals are often case mine but I believe we have to respect and have a big tent party.

[GingerSnaps]

15. It includes everyone

I dislike the rethugs that worked on a source code that took our voting right away from us. They are not included!

I lived in Ireland for a while and you were either a green or an orange member. We are all the same but there are so many groups of people that excludes instead of includes it makes me worry sometimes. BTW I belong to the Irish Americans center in my hometown and we have both green and orange members :hug:

[JohnKleeb]

16. well that sounds good to me

It's just as a progressive democrat get upset when other progressives talk about being a big progressive party, all good intentions I assume but they will piss on anyone who has some centrist or conservative tendencies, I want a big tent party not one that purges people for disagreeing.

[GingerSnaps]

18. You can be from any party and get along with others

What I am talking about are the busybodies that people end up telling to get over it because they hold animosity inside for life and they hate people but they pretend that they are true blue democrats.

Instead of talking about issues they discuss other members or people that they don't like. How can a group of people get things done if you have 4 or 5 people that have issues with other people. Can you possibly believe them when they say that they want to discuss an issue and have an open mind about the issue if they hate other people on a personal level?

We should get a group together that does not hold animosity against others to honestly discuss issues in an open way. I don't know how to explain it but i don't think that i would like someones opinion on something if they are the type of person that holds grudges and they hate people on an individual basis for personal reasons and not reasons that we are all dealing with on the level of a stolen election and *.

People need to look into their own life and find out why they hate other people before they pass judgment on others. Do they see themselves in that person and that is the reason that they hate someone because they either envy the person or that person makes them afraid because they might be a better person then they truly are.

I find that people that hold animosity inside cause more problems in everyone else's life and their own life. They either get past the hate or they end up with no one around because of it. :hug:

[JohnKleeb]

19. I think you see my point

Its just I personally get really pissed when people talk about throwing people out of the party for not reaching their often high standards.

[SmokingJacket]

20. I agree: big tent is the only way to go

I understand people feeling like they want to leave the Dems because they're "losers" or because they're not Fighters, or whatever. I'm mad they didn't push election reform harder before 11-2.

But until the Repubs break into tiny factions, the oppostion needs to stay strong and united and inclusive.

[JohnKleeb]

21. big tent works because our diversity makes us great

[GingerSnaps]

22. You often wonder

If they can even make the grade of the standards that they set for others. :shrug:

We don't need the type of person that tells everyone else that if that person is in our group than you can count me out because either she or he goes or I will go. They play that game over and over again until one day the whole group tells them to go and they are shocked.

We all need to share ideas and you can't talk or do anything when you have one or two members telling everyone else in the group to hate other group members.

How can you share ideas if they are trying to mandate who comes and who goes and whether that persons ideas are good or not.

We don't need divisiveness right now we need to pull together and share ideas. We can also look into our own life's and find out what can do in order to make us a better person inside and how we can share our knowledge without letting several people destroy us. :grouphug:

[Pepper32]

23. I am a Progressive Democrat ...

and I'm also very true blue. I don't believe in excluding or dismissing anyone for their point of views. However, during times like this I do feel we have to distinguish ourselves from republicans. They are trying force us to go right and it seems many of our Democrat leaders are on their knees, allowing it to happen. I want strong representation not someone telling me to make nice with these extreme right thugs with all their fake morality. I'm just not having it.
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[Pepper32]

24. I respect your idea and I know where it stems from however...

To form a new group in my opinion, just says we are ready to let a few elitist thugs push us out of our existing group. Well, I'm NOT. I'm not going to let republicans exclude me from my country and I'm definitely not going to let anyone run me away from the heart of my PARTY. Now if they delete me from the member list I guess I have no choice in the matter(lol) but I'm not just going to walk away. I get enough discrimination just for being who I am, so I am more than prepared for this battle.

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[GingerSnaps]

26. I am talking about a Forum Group not a different party

When we let hate make our decisions about how to get things done it just doesn't work.

It's better to have an open mind when you are trying to come up with Ideas. If you have someone with animosity and dislike for members then how can they possibly give an honest opinion if hate is involved. How can you get something done if someone is busy talking about another person instead of issues and ideas?

I am talking about a Forum Group not a new Political Party. :hug: