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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:36 AM
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That's it! I'm staying out of the lounge...
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 06:38 AM by wyldwolf
I often hear the lounge lizards (of which I am some really odd hybrid of) talk about the flame fests and candidate bashing in General Discussion.

Seems to me though that DU was established for heated and passionate political discussions and the lounge was probably an after thought.

But If a read ONE MORE "Your #1 absolute favorite album of all time-Your #1 absolute favorite song of all time-Your #1 absolute best guitar player of all time-I hate Britney-I hate J-lo-I hate friends-ask me anything-thread" or some cleverly (not) reworked retread of the above threads, I'll trash the place!

I don't mind my candidate being trashed. That's politics. But the holier-than-thou entertainment snobs in the lounge give the place a bad name.

There's now a thread complaining about how stiff Al Gore and Grey Davis are. Urghghghgh!

I guess I'm a GD GenDiscus kinda guy now!
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TexasEditor Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:43 AM
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1. People that are too busy...
Too busy talking to hear what they're saying. They're chat room geeks. I guess you feel more like a member of the Democratic Party when your peers agree with you on a variety of trivial and non-political subjects.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:43 AM
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2. i'm with you!
i've been around DU since the very beginning, and i rarely post at all now.
i catch myself typing a response and thinking, 'is it really worth it?'
usually, i hit the back button and abandon my response.
if you would like to converse on real topics with real substance, just let me know. i'm ready.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:49 AM
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3. They don't even have a lounge at Rim Job's rat hole do they?
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 06:50 AM by Hubert Flottz
Maybe that's more patriotic?
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:50 AM
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4. Actually this thread belongs in the Lounge
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:51 AM
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5. Thank you, moderator... no, wait! You're not a mod!
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 06:52 AM by wyldwolf
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:05 AM
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8. Don't have to be a mod to see this is not a GD topic
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:07 AM
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10. But to authoritatively state "it belongs in the lounge" as opposed to...
..stating, "in my opinion" or something similar, is making a call you can't make.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:50 AM
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29. This thread belongs in the Lounge
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:43 AM
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23. It certainly seems thusfar
that, in my special designation of Member, Not Moderator, THIS OBVIOUSLY belongs in the Lounge...or perhaps we need to add a 'whiney-baby' forum!

Listen, for other reasons, I CANNOT post in the I/P forum and I very rarely begin a post anywhere else except to the CivilRights forum! So, tough!! Look upon me as your guru, thread oiginator, just follow your new 'guru' who advises you with lovingkindness: if you can't stand them, or they make you too angry or even if they hurt too much (as for me in I/P): just "moveon" and get the "truthout", i.e., FUCKING ignore them.

OHMMMMMMMMMM

:cry: :pals:
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:02 AM
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6. you gotta admit....
the clip of davis on stage was....well...the man cannot dance ..OK?

not saying it affects how he governs but sheeesh...thay have to stop trying to make him dance or sway or clap or do anything that requires rythmn...it's painful to watch.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:04 AM
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7. But irrelevant to discuss... since he isn't running for the office of...
..dancer or clapper...

Not to mention threads like that are petty and insulting to backers of Davis.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:40 AM
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22. not irrelevant....minor but not irrelevant
ANYTHING that a candidate does is relevant to his success or failure in the campaign. anything that shows him or her in a less favorable light is relevent.

2 parts of the equation. how does he run and how will he govern if elected. discussing either is not petty.

i don't get the bit about being insulting to the backers at all.
unless the backers are his dance teachers.

to be clear...some people just don't have rythmn.

having or not having rythmn does not effect how a person will govern but whether or not a candidate is put in a position that makes him or her appear awkward does effect the campaign.
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:06 AM
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9. Thank you for citing one of the threads I started
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 07:07 AM by Section_43
in the lounge. I appreciate the props.

Get off your high horse much?

Ever hear of a guilty pleasure? That's the Lounge!

Speaking of holier than thou....

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:09 AM
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11. I'm not on a high horse... but you're being sensitive...
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 07:10 AM by wyldwolf
...did I respond to your thread? Nooooo...

Did I complain to you or those in the lounge? Nooo...

Have I hurt your tender feelings? Maybe.

Why don't YOU quit being thin skinned.

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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:13 AM
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12. My feelings and skin are fine.
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 07:14 AM by Section_43
Griping for the sake of griping is, well, just griping.

See you in the Lounge.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:15 AM
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13. And my horse is of normal height....
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 07:16 AM by wyldwolf
and I agree, Griping for the sake if griping is, well, just griping.
Like the countless griping threads in the lounge on earth shattering issues like sitcoms and pop music.

And the most hysterical part is that the lounge folks constantly gripe about GD.

But let one GD thread complain about the lounge and, well, someone starts crying.
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:26 AM
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16. for the record
I happen to like GD, LBN, and the Lounge (when I get tired of weeding through the candidate bash fests)

The lounge reminds me of a stupid B movie you happen across on the tube and you catch yourself secretly wanting to know how it ends.

I'm just happy our horse skin feelings are fine.



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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:49 AM
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24. for the record:
apologies for not knowing this already: but what does Section_43 mean? It sounds like a military thing - you wouldn't happen to be a Clark supporter, would you? We could whip up an entire conspiracy thread on 2+2 = 5, wudja say?

B-) :evilgrin:

:toast:
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 03:55 AM
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43. Section 43 is a song by Country Joe & the Fish
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 03:58 AM by Section_43
no military experience here, although my uncle is a 30 year USAF man AND a member or the Secret Service.

Yes, I am a Clark supporter.

short list:

Clark
Kucinich
Edwards
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 04:28 AM
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44. Ok, 2 things then:
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 04:30 AM by cherryperry
1. I hope that means you like Country Joe & the Fish! When I lived in San Francisco, we would run into both (Country) Joe and his Dad in lines waiting for movies and just in various places around town - both men were really nice (and both very politically left/labor/progressive);

and

2. O.K., then we'll have President Kucinich and Vice-Presidents Clark and Edwards.

short list:

ABB


(edited for grammar not for content because I need to go to sleep now; say "Good night, Gracie." "Good night.")
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #9
40. You...DO have the ability ...
(and the option, I might add) to not click onto the Lounge, do you not?

Hi-five to you, Section_43. ;)


"The DU Lounge:
This forum is for personal/social discussions, vanity posts, and all other non-political topics."

So there. :P
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 04:36 AM
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45. Damn, I knew I needed to go to sleep, but
I didn't realize just how much.

Guess what, dolo amber? You'll never believe this, but I could have sworn I just saw those cat eyes light up or something.

Wow, either I'm really really tired or I went and took the wrong pill again...oops...

:evilgrin: :party: :hippie: :toast:
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:18 AM
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14. So... Just who IS your favorite singer?
:-)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:21 AM
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15. My answer is the same as it was the first 10 or so times it was asked...
..in the lounge.

Perhaps there should be permanant running polls for such questions so they can be referred to anytime someone wants to repost a retread?
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:31 AM
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19. I hear what you're saying, but...
Some of those 'lounge lizards' can be pretty funny. I LIKE a thread called "I Heard Clark Might Have Eaten A Clark Bar". Wouldn't be appropriate for GD, but makes perfect sense for the Lounge.
Also, some of the best writers in DU visit the Lounge from time to time, and make great contributions (Plaid Adder comes to mind).
One more thing...
The vast majority of Dems or Repube voters in this country don't care about the microscopic dissection of the candidates as practiced in GD. Bush=Evil is what's important to most of us, and I'm glad DU provides a Big Tent to gather in.
Now... Have you been to the Meeting Room lately? :-)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:36 AM
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21. I hear what you're saying, too...
..and the points are well taken, but the constant bashing of certain elements of the entertainment industry there can be just as insulting as the candidate bashing is to folks in GD.. Plus, it's a lot more petty.

And the constant retread music/movie posts that clog the lounge are so pointless they're frustrating. Often done to draw attention to other's "superior" or "inferior" taste. And since taste is personal preference, they do resemble personal attacks.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:07 PM
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36. Mercy. Do you think it's EASY
being one of the few Barry Manilow admirers around here? (Hmmmmm. Maybe I'll start a thread about that if I ever get a job which means I'd have some money which means I'd contribute which means I'd have a star which means I'd be authorized to start a poll which would mean that everyone would vote "no" which would mean I'd be more depressed than I normally am).
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:29 AM
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17. If you'd buy a yak instead of a F**KING pony, slip into a nise
Th?ng, put on some good sounds, sip a tall cool cocktail, watch the ballgame, feed your puss cat and then let a great big FART, you wouldn't be so tense!

Piece!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:30 AM
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18. Piece of what?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:34 AM
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20. You don't know do ya??????????????????????
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 07:54 AM by Hubert Flottz
:evilgrin: :beer:

Come on, I know you can GRIN once in a while!
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:06 AM
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25. shhhhhhhh -
Hubert, you cutie-pie, don't be mean! It's quite possible this is exactly what the problem is!!! He really might not know...


:evilfrown: :toast:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:25 AM
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26. I prefer a heartfelt thread in the lounge to your disengenuous Dean thread
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:12 AM
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32. If stating facts about his positions offends you...
..so be it. Or are we all just supposed to kneel at the alter of Dean and shut up?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:43 AM
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27. LOL Only at DU
A lounge bash/GD pump post in traditional lounge format:

That's it! I'm_____________________!

<vent vent vent vent>

I'm a ___________________________kinda guy now!

Classic lounge post. From one wolf to another, I still love ya. Have a cold one:

:beer:
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:46 AM
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28. Wyldwolf - TexasEditor
Before you start trashing anybody and anything in the Lounge, you might want to pay attention to those little Gold Stars by the names of the posters there.

I notice neither of you have one: meaning you're not exactly supporting DU except for running your mouth here.

Lighten up.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:11 AM
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31. I donated... thank you...
I donated before the software switchover.. but took out a new name thereafter...

...not that it makes a real difference. You obviously don't need to donate to contribute.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:07 AM
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30. That's what makes DU so great —
something for everyone. There's a forum for just about every political issue and Democrats and progressives of every stripe. DU is the big tent theory writ large.

An analysis of group dynamics will show that the Lounge serves a vital function in building group cohesion. So what may seem like innocuous posts on trivial topics, it really is building a sense of community, caring and commitment to the group that will carry us through the struggles and issues that we are discussing in the other forums.

Although you may personally see no value in this, it does serve a purpose here and judging by its popularity, many other people do as well.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:42 AM
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33. Ironically, Doesn't This Belong in the LOUNGE? LOL n/t
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:24 PM
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34. But you didn't say
who your favorite entertainer was!
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sspiderjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:49 PM
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35. So this is a "what's your #1 pet peeve at DU" thread?
Mine is: when I make a funny remark and no one responds.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:07 PM
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37. A lot of veteran GD posters visit the Lounge regularly
to blow off steam. I think it's a healthy habit. Many of those you see in the Lounge starting such comparison threads are even as they post engaged in heated verbal battles elsewhere on these boards.

Others of us have been staying out of contentious fora for more than a month now, for reasons varying from burn-out to high blood pressure.

Personally, I'm getting a little weary of people in one place riding the high horse over the other. From my perspective there's very little difference between GD and the Lounge. Both places are overwhelmed in the signal to noise ratio. There are deep and rewarding discussions offered in both places. - But those sink like a stone in favour of tabloid style headlines, high-profile flame bait and a chance to argue the the same tired argument with the same intractible people using the same trite talking points in the one fora, -and the same tired sex, yak, music and movie threads in the other.

When we were growing up my mother used to tell us that our boredom was our own responsibility, not hers.

There is a usenet forum I've frequented which is well and truly self-moderated by a group of people who do not suffer fools or foolishness gladly. Whenever someone whines in that forum about the type and 'quality' of the posts the denizens all rise up en masse and tell dude on the other end of the whinge: "You don't like what you see here? -Post something different. You don't like what we've given you to read? - It's a user-controlled forum; post something you like. It's not our job to entertain you."

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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:02 PM
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38. I like to poke fun at GD...
...but it's in the same way that you know my father-in-law likes you because he smacks you and calls you an idiot. ;-)

But seriously, you make a good point.

:hi:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:05 PM
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39. LOL, no you aren't
yokes on you and welcome to the lounge!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:09 PM
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41. I like those threads
people have interesting opinions. If you don't like them, don't f***ing read them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:15 PM
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42. I am quite disappointed that there have been so many negative Yak posts
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 08:16 PM by lunabush
Not that I have ever contributed to a yak thread...
:(
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