Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Odd bleeping of profanities on television.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 06:57 PM
Original message
Odd bleeping of profanities on television.
Bear with me; I'm going somewhere here.

Two words:

asshole
goddamn

Both are compound words. Let's look at each part of the words and analyze their acceptability on television:

ass - has gained acceptability on television in the last several years;

hole - a perfectly acceptable word, never censored;

god - Fulton Sheen was using this word back in the 50s - the censors didn't mind;

damn - a word that has been on television since at least the seventies.

Okay. Four words, combined to make two. Two - hole and god - have always been acceptable on television. Two - ass and damn - were not always acceptable, but are no longer censored.

And yet..., when you combine these four words in a certain way, the magical bleep appears...

Back to those words:

asshole
goddamn

Now, its not the bleeping of these words that I find so perplexing; rather, it is the placement of the bleeps.

For asshole the bleep appears over the word hole, a word which, as we established earlier, has always been acceptable on television. The word ass is bleep-free.

For goddamn the bleep appears over the word god, a word which, as we established earlier, has always been acceptable on television. The word damn is bleep-free.

What, therefore, may we surmise?

First, that assdamn or damnass would be completely acceptable words on television.

Second, that godhole or holegod would be bleeped.

Thank you for your kind attention, and a good assdamn to all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 06:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. Actually, you must either bleep the god or the damn in "goddamn".
That was according to my editor friend, citing FCC rules of several years ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. That is still absolutely stupid, as neither word on its own
is unacceptable.

If it were "godfuck," I could understand the bleeping.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. It's the FCC...whaddya gonna do?
But, I can understand religious people having an objection to that word. I disagree, but I understand the argument.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. Well, I intend to get the phrase "cornhole" censored.
As a proud consumer of corn, I am offended by this phrase.

Also, there are too many states nowadays. Please eliminate three. :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
17. Smokey and the Bandit was comical in the late 70s or early 80s
The first time it played on TV, they bleeped the "damn".

A few years later, they bleeped the "God".

Go figure . . .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 06:59 PM
Response to Original message
2. ROTFLMbleepO -n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scrooge Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. deep
I want whatever it is that you are taking right now. <good natured teasing> :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
5. Bleeping in "A Chorus Line"
I watched that now oldie movie of "A Chorus Line" with Michael Douglas a few months ago. There's a song performance Leslie Ann Warren does called "Tits and Ass"... only you can't say "tits" on televsion apparently. It was pretty funny hearing the other half of that line over and over again!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. That's another interesting thing.
Two words, the same meaning. One is acceptable, one is not.

Tits - Unacceptable. Breasts/Boobs et cetera - Acceptable.

Shit - Unacceptable. Manure/Crap/Dung/Poop/et cetera - Acceptable.

Fuck - Unacceptable. Too many words to mention - Acceptable.

And so on. I wonder if anyone at the FCC has ever come face to face with a thesaurus.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #8
22. Wait...
I thought shit was now acceptable. :shrug: They said it on NYPD Blue. They say it on South PArk. What is going on? I'm confused.
Duckie
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. The censoring of "shit" is inconsistent.
With their rating (TV-MA) and their late broadcast hour, NYPD Blue and South Park can get away with using "shit."

But for the most part, "shit" is bleeped.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. Besides, Cable does not have the same restrictions as broadcast TV...
Although with a Scalia-run Supreme Court, that could change. :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. They say "bullshit" all the time on NYPD Blue
Maybe that's more acceptable than just saying "shit"???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:04 PM
Response to Original message
7. Cock and sucker is another example.....
You can say cock (The cock crowed), you can say sucker.

But don't put them together.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:09 PM
Response to Original message
9. assdamn
im gonna start using that....


:hippie: THe Incorrigible Democrat
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. I like godhole better n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:09 PM
Response to Original message
10. Mother and fucker is another good example.......oh
never mind..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PragMantisT Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:19 PM
Response to Original message
12. AMC showed "Blazing Saddles" today
and they bleeped "Methodists". swear to god.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:22 PM
Response to Original message
13. strange indeed
What I find even more strange is that a few local networks have started to *bleep* words in their shows - just to appear American, as there is no regulation or anything forcing them to do so.
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #13
23. People have started bleeping Jesus...
:wtf:
Duckie
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:22 PM
Response to Original message
14. Assgod! Shit that's funny.
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:22 PM
Response to Original message
15. Have you people been watching George Carlin again???
:D:D:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
16. Cock, Tit, Boobie . . .
They're all birds. Dickie, too. I bet ya can't mention cats, either, huh. Buncha pussies. Though Tom Leikis says it all the time on Talk Radio

And they say 'Asshole' a lot on NYPD Blue.

I was watching a movie the other night - maybe it was Diehard 2 (?) - on TV and they were bleeping out 'Bastard' but 'Fucker' and 'Motherfucker' were allowed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:01 PM
Response to Original message
18. YOU SLUG IN A DITCH!
That's my favorite overdub.
I heard it once on some action film, sliced to pieces on USA.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #18
21. In Miami Blues Fred Ward says
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 10:28 AM by signmike
"I know you think I'm a weak sack..."
(TV version)

Huh? WTF? Can't say 'weak suck'?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:14 PM
Response to Original message
20. i've always wondered about the bleeping of the 'hole', too. weird stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:32 AM
Response to Original message
24. FCC = Freeper Christian Censorship n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:39 AM
Response to Original message
25. LOL!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
26. When they show Steve Martin's 'The Jerk' on broadcast TV ...
in the original movie version, Navin Johnson calls the dog 'Shithead' at the suggestion of someone who doesn't like the dog. All through the movie, he calls for Shithead in an affectionate voice -- it's really quite funny.

When they show it on TV, they overdub 'Stupid.'

Ruins the whole joke.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. I've seen that - ruins the whole thing
I've seen "The Usual Suspects" on basic cable, and they censor that movie to death. During the lineup, where they all say, "Give me the keys, you fucking cocksucker," they're dubbed in saying, "Give me the keys, you fairy godmother." LMAO!:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 11:16 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC