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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:17 AM
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OK, where would you LEAST like to live?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:18 AM
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1. Fallujah, Iraq
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:19 AM
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2. Darfur, Sudan
As a woman with children dreading the arrival at any moment of the Janjeeweed (sp?)....

:cry:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:49 AM
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15. Darfur, Sudan would be my choice also
next could be Haiti
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:19 AM
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3. Crawford, Texas
Little shit town in the middle of nowhere that is ALSO Bush crazy and a place he loves to call home. :scared:

NO ESCAPE! AAAAAAAAH!!!!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:19 AM
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4. Youngstown Ohio........
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:21 AM
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5. L.A. and i do why ???????
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:22 AM
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6. oh, that's simple . . .
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 02:23 AM by TaleWgnDg
the least to live in the States?

1.) Texas
2.) Oklahoma (north Texas)
3.) Florida

Why? Because all of them have the worst state laws in the entire country, that's why. Texas being the worst of the 3.







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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:34 AM
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11. Yeah...but at least Florida has nice beaches and Miami.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:23 AM
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7. Houston TX
no question
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:46 AM
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13. As a 10+ year resident of Houston
I agree. And I lived in fucking Tulsa!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:51 AM
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16. LOL!
Oil industry?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:58 AM
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17. My dad was an employee of Texaco
Now he's an employee of Royal Dutch Shell. My childhood was spent in those two cities. A poor locale to raise children, in my opinion. Especially the wealthy part where we lived. It's some kind of soul vaccuum.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:21 AM
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25. Lived there for 7 years.
I agree.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:40 AM
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46. I moved away from Houston because I didn't like it......but......
I can think of much worse places.

Besides, the restaurant scene in Houston is great.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:01 AM
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48. To me it represents unfettered capitalist greed
no zoning laws, truly desperate ghettos, way too many big-hat-no-cattle Texas conmen, pollution on a third-world scale . . . everything that is ugly about Murka is in Houston in spades.

Ironically, several of my favorite songwriters and performers came from, or spent key formative time, in Houston . . . Guy Clark, Townes, Steve Earle, George Jones . . .

I can barely tolerate Houston for a day or two.

Unlike others here, I don't hate all of Texas. But Houston just gives me the creeps every time I visit.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:24 AM
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56. Agreed. If those factors are considered, then Dallas is even worse.
I still have a soft spot for Houston, especially the Clear Lake area, because when I lived there I worked for the Space Program. It was far and away the most exciting, most enriching job I've ever had so far. And the people I worked work are still very special to me.

I felt we needed to move because of our kids....and because like 90% of the other people at NASA, I wanted to use my experience at NASA as a stepping stone for a better paying job.

If I were single, I might still be living in Houston. I'd have more time and money to travel and get away from Houston if that were the case and it would make living there more tolerable.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:04 PM
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63. there are good people everywhere
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 09:05 PM by leftofthedial
even Houston.

You're right about the restaurants. Good eats.

Chicago works for me. Now if I can just figure out how to get to Chicago . . .

:-)

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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:28 AM
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8. The amazon.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:25 AM
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20. Huh? The Amazon can be an amazing place....
I've spent time there...Equador, Peru, in particular....The Achuar, Shuar and Huaraharani indians are wonderful tribal cultures and people...they would make you feel very welcome and teach you much about our world and why we need to treasure "Pachamama"...

One of the most beautiful things to see is the sun setting in the Amazon and a flock of Macaws and their feathers and the bright colors flash as they fly into the light. Or the huge butterfly's (about 7-8 inches across) with their bright irridescent blue wings flapping about to exotic flowers....

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:39 AM
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26. Where would I NOT like to end up? Cheney's bunker in the aftermath.
Vale, é bom que ela não quer ir ás Amazonas. Prefiro que ela fica aqui porque não pode destruir a floresta de chuva e o Warí e o Yanomamö, levando sua moléstia!!! :grr:
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:06 PM
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61. Yeah but all of it would be lost on me
because I'm deathly afraid of spiders and bugs. I saw a special once on a lady who's plane crashed in the amazon and she had a sore on her leg that these biting insects kept biting at. By the time she got out of there she was infested with parasites and had maggots living on her leg.

I'm sure there are worse places in terms of culture of the people and geography, like to be a black woman in parts of Africa or a woman in Afghanistan, but that was the first thing that popped into my head.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:31 AM
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9. Iraq would have to be it atm.
I feel so bad for what is being done over there.

I really hope we rebuild that country in the end, though I cannot see how we can ever make this right.

Sad.
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:32 AM
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10. Dallas, TX
Polluted air. Millions of greedy, fundamentalist right wing christians. And just ugly, ugly, ugly. About the only thing good about Dallas are the number of highways leading quickly out of town, and the airport.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:44 AM
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12. Oklahoma
Lived there in my childhood, six years of living hell. It would take a lot lot lot of money to get me there again. I mean a LOT.

Ohio sucked too.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:49 AM
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14. Mercury.
The heat there is ridiculous.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:00 AM
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18. East St Louis.
Passed through it years ago, couldn't get out fast enough.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:04 AM
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19. the West Bank and Gaza
or Texas
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:44 AM
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21. NYC
Where I come from 10 million plus people need their space.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:08 AM
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24. Last time I checked
there weren't 10,000,000 people in your whole region!

But seriously, if the idea of so many people bothers you, you probably wouldn't fit in here too well...
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:01 AM
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22. Fallujuah or Lawrence MA.
I've actually lived in one of those cities.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:06 AM
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27. You repeat yourself
:)

I here there's more jobs in Fallujah!
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:02 AM
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23. Detroit
It sucks.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:32 AM
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31. Hey! Them's fighting words. Let me find a cup to throw at you.
:hi:
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:50 AM
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38. Don't waste good beer.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:07 AM
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28. Anywhere in the Bible Belt would make my skin crawl
Hell,even Mass is barely liberal enough for my tastes :)
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:22 AM
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29. Jeresalem, Israel
No, make that ANYWHERE in Israel...

Or Iraq...
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:31 AM
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30. Alabama or Mississippi.
Or Ku Klux Klan land as I think of those places.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:35 AM
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32. Detroit
Don't ever attend a basketball game there.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:42 AM
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47. Detroit's not too bad, it's Auburn Hills that has all the problems
At least any related to the NBA.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:12 AM
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33. My hometown.
God I never want to live there again. I just don't care for those people.
Duckie
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:17 AM
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34. From what I'm seeing happening in this country...
...any rural part of America, at the very least. :puke:
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:20 AM
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35. ALABAMA!
possibly Afghanistan

nah... Alabama is worse...
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NoSunWithoutShadow Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:29 AM
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36. Odessa, Texas. It stinks there.
Feel like I have to defend Detroit a little bit. It's a poor city with a school system profoundly in debt. But Detroit has one of the finest art museums in the USA; The Detroit Institute of Arts (The DIA). IMHO
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:48 AM
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37. How the hell did you end up in Odessa?
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NoSunWithoutShadow Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:56 AM
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39. We were driving from Michigan to Arizona in the winter.
We were looking to take the most southern route. I think there was a detour. It was in the 70's at 5:00 AM. My sister was driving her 1970 GTO, a 429 with a Hurst shifter. A car full of drunk men started following us and tailgating. She stepped on the accelerator and we left them in a stinky cloud of dust. I really think that is the worst place I've ever been.

What's it like now?
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:23 AM
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41. A car full of drunk men started following us and tailgating
That was you!!!
It hasn't changed much, still smells like H2s. The oil fields are booming now, lots of money floating around. People coming from all over looking for work.
It's so much better than it was when oil went down to 8.50 a barrel. At least their not having to bus kids to different towns just to attend school. Lots of the small towns had to shut the schools down back then.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:14 AM
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54. Like I always tell people about Detroit...
It's a nice place to live, but I wouldn't want to visit it. Good restaurants, museums, excellent local music scene, almost no traffic (except I-75 during rush hour). Pretty friendly people.
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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:21 AM
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40. Anywhere in Texas.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:25 AM
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42. Why?
Ever been to TX?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:38 AM
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45. I lived in Texas and there are a number of great places.
Austin is a great town. It's overrated, but it's still nice.

Just south of Austin, there's a town called San Marcos which is really pretty.

And there are some other towns in Hill Country which are very agreeable to me.

And native Texans, people who have lived there for a couple of generations are some of the most fairminded people I've ever met. It's the 'new' Texans, transplants from other places (like the Bushes) that give Texas a bad name.

Oh, and the food's not bad either.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:04 AM
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50. I Agree About The Hill Country
The Princess and I have friends in Hillsboro. We were there in September, and we're going back for another visit next month.

Everything we saw in that part of Texas is nice. Except Crawford....

:-)
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:45 AM
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58. Hillsboro.
Got a friend has a ranch about 30 miles from there in Meridian. His north property line is 7 miles of the Bosque River. Beautiful over there. Try to go in the spring some time. The Blue Bonnets are great in that area.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:48 AM
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59. Our Favorite Thing About Texas...
...is Blue Bell Ice Cream.

:9
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:53 AM
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60. You and Lunabush, Blue Bell on the brain.
It is pretty good.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:06 AM
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52. texas is fantastic, come on
I have no wish to move as I happen to live in Louisiana but certainly there is a lot to do and see there for anyone interested in birds or nature. I love to visit there and wish I could do so more often. Lots of snowbirds come and stay in South Texas for the winter, and the ones I talked to seemed to be having a blast. I'm not much of a "people" person so I would just ignore the rednecks and get on with my life. There are ignorant people everywhere, not just Texas.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:26 AM
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43. Any place with poisonous critters
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:39 AM
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57. Lots of those in TX
Everything will either, stick ya, sting ya, or bite ya. Including my horse!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:04 PM
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62. :Lucky for me I am in Maine, and I have never seen the poisonous critters
that are rumored to reside here. :)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:30 AM
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44. War zones are too obvious answers so I'll leave them out.
So the "prize" goes to Saudi Arabia. Or maybe the areas of Nigeria ran by crazed mullahs.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:03 AM
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49. In the world? Or just in the U.S.?
If it's the U.S., I'd say Alabama or Mississippi.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:12 AM
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53. those places are getting a lot of votes...
...and I'm not sure why. There are good and bad areas to live there. In the 70s I used to be afraid to drive through Mississippi because of the dishonest police, but it is a different world now. I'm not pro-casino, but when they came to Mississippi, they did bring a new attitude of where all kinds and colors of people would mingle together freely and see we were all just human. It also got the cops to behave themselves, as pulling over people with out-of-state tags would no longer be a revenue source but a revenue drain if it chased away the gamblers.

Too much of Mississippi is pine tree desert or agricultural desert but you could say this about a great many other states.

My visits to Alabama have been brief but pleasant so perhaps I've only seen the good there.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:16 AM
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55. I had to choose somewhere.
I prefer living in the North. I prefer a northern climate. ANY state I chose as last on my list of places to live would be a southern state. And if I WERE going to live in a southern state, I would want tp choose one that would be more likely to have a large metropolitan (hopefully progressive) area. Alabama and Mississippi seem to be least likely to fulfill that criteria.

The state I currently live in is actually pretty low on my list also.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:04 AM
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51. bottom of an abyss.
i'd be instantly crushed like an empty beer can.

on land? North Korea, Darfur, Myanmar, being a young male in Dem. Rep. of the Congo.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:59 AM
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64. Anyone ready for round 2 tonight?
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andino Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:18 AM
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65. Texas
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