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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:07 PM
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Poll question: Winter Hells. Worst US winter cities.
Here are a few choices.
I grew up in the Boston area so thats what I have to compare to.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:08 PM
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1. Other: WINTER ROCKS!
eom
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:08 PM
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2. Phoenix - Not Really
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 05:08 PM by Champ
But it has been :scared: the last few days.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:09 PM
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6. I was going to put San Diego on my list but not enough spaces.
Its brutal down here.
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St. Etienne Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:17 PM
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18. I second San Diego!
:P
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:08 PM
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3. Farmington, Maine.. Not a city.. but bitterly cold
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:09 PM
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4. Watertown, NY
they measure the snow in feet
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:50 PM
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36. My dad lived there as a kid and spoke of massive amounts of snow
and sub-zero temps.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:09 PM
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5. I live in Minneapolis, but
although it is probably colder with more snow, Chicago has that WIND and the lake which makes it pretty ridiculous. I still vote for Mpls.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:14 PM
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BUt But But
MPLS does have the skyways, but then it doesn't have the Winter Carnival. MPLS does take too long to remove snow.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:18 PM
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19. psh to windy chicago
milwaukee gets MORE wind than chicago does!

as in, a higher average wind speed, all year round...we have the lake too!
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Pig_Latin_Lover Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:22 PM
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22. Duluth has it much worse
But, then again, that's practically Canada and full if inuit people.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:11 PM
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45. Yeah I hear duluth is pretty much eskimos and igloos, they are used to it.
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Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:32 PM
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49. My dad told me stories about Minneapolis
He was stationed there for several BAD winters(record snow fall, weeks below zero)

But what about the Donner Summit or San Fran?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:39 PM
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50. I live in Minneapolis, too,
and it gets damn cold here, but the area is pretty well equipped to deal with the weather. The streets get plowed (though not always as fast as we'd like) and the airport hardly ever closes. I think Chicago seems worse because the dampness makes it feel colder. Actually, the coldest place I've ever personally experienced is Grand Forks, ND, which is really, really cold and really, really windy. Horrible wind chills.
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:10 PM
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Nome, Alaska
Marquette, MI

All these big cities? C'mon.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:16 PM
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17. Houghton/Hancock ...
.... now there's some winter for ya ....


:hippie:
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:25 PM
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48. Oooh, Good Call
Copper Harbor.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:10 PM
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7. It's not a city but the worse place to be would be...
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 05:11 PM by Cobalt Violet
On Mount Washington, NH. The worse weather in the world.

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:12 PM
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12. Highest wind ever recorded on Mt. Washington.
A beautiful part of the country.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:10 PM
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8. Buffalo. No doubt.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:11 PM
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10. Rochester has you beat...
B-lo is just, beat. :P
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:23 PM
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26. Rock on Ra-Cha-Cha
Rochester does hold the snow cup and the early lead this year.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:42 PM
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60. The lighter side of Dave Berg loves ya
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:11 PM
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9. Chicago has simultaneously the worst and best weather of all.
It's the only place where the summers are regularly in the 100s and the winters are easily 30 below. Everything can change at an instant.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:19 PM
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21. Minneapolis does too
But I voted for Bismarck.

In a Minneapolis summer its not the heat - its the humidity. 98 degrees with 98% humidity = my own personal hell.

Same can be said for cold and wind chill factor LOL

But at least we no longer measure the snow in feet...like the border of MN and ND.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:52 PM
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38. okay so when do we have the best weather
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:12 PM
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11. Cleveland
I live in Detroit and it seems at least a couple times a winter, we're on track to get hit by a huge winter storm. But for some reason (the "Lake Effect"?) it goes south of here and Cleveland or sometimes Buffalo get socked.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:12 PM
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13. I don't see Cleveland on this list
But then, I don't live in Cleveland.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:14 PM
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14. Buffalo is so bad tha Indians won't even live there
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:14 PM
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15. Sr. year of college: wind chill -74. Thank you Green Bay.
:scared: :scared: :scared:


:hippie:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:15 PM
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16. The whole states of Oklahoma and Texas
I'm in Iowa and winters really suck here. It's cold as anything -- the snow sticks around for months. The difference is that Iowans are prepared. We've got snowplows, chains for tires, snow shovels and, most importantly, we've got people who actually know how to go about their business in the snow and ice.

Winters may last a lot longer here, however, any amount of snow and ice was hellish in Oklahoma and Texas. They simply have no flippin' clue.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:18 PM
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20. Fargo. Devil's Lake. Places like that.
Not that I don't like Fargo on a good day, but it's very windy there, and when the winter blizzards hit, it's horrible.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:22 PM
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23. I have a friend from Duluth and she told me thats the worst.
And she lived in Alaska too.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:26 PM
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29. Duluth is pretty awful in the winter -
Many of the streets are extremely steep and hard to navigate in snow and ice. It's also windy off of Lake Superior.

Duluth has some mighty fine redeeming qualities, though. :)
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:22 PM
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24. I'm voting for Buffalo
and having it count as Rochester and Syracuse too because it's all awful....and yet I miss it horribly down here
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:13 PM
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52. I've have heard that the Syracuse, NY area is way worse
than Maine in the winter. My husband when to Syracuse University and is from Maine, so he can compare the too. I also voted for Buffalo. That area got ten feet of snow in sight of one week a few years ago, I remember.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:27 PM
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58. Yep insofar as I can tell it is
that 10 footer in Buffalo dropped 9 on Rochester. I have pictures of myself standing next to snowbanks three times my height. It snowed a foot+ a day for a week
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:23 PM
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25. San Diego -
It was 45 degrees this morning!

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

:scared:
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:28 PM
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31. I had to scrape ice off my truck the other day in El Cajon.
It actually got down to 22 degs in Santee saturday night.
Thats insane for SoCal.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:29 PM
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32. It did NOT get down to 22 freaking degrees for Santee.
No way, no how.

Send me the link. This I gotta see.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:31 PM
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34. It was on Channel 8 news sunday.
The thermometer sign on the sign in Santee Sq. registered 22. Unless it was so cold that the sign malfunctioned.
I'll look for a link.
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:24 PM
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27. Kansas City
ICE, ICE, ICE, then SNOW!
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:25 PM
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28. St Louis - they dont know how to plow
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 05:26 PM by AllegroRondo
Seriously, we dont get a ton of snow here but we get a couple good storms. And I grew up in Wisconsin, so I know a little about winter weather. But what makes it bad is the MO Dept of Trans. They have NO idea how to prepare for the weather. They dont know how to plow or salt. We had a little ice storm last year and schools were closed for 3 days because the roads were still impassable.

And the drivers! They think they can still drive on this stuff! How many cars do you have to see in the ditch before you wonder whether you should really slow down?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:55 PM
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39. I always get a kick out of watching footage of drivers in warmer
states drive when they get a bit of snow. N. Carolina is the same way...they will get a few ice storms a year and I don't think they know what to do.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:26 PM
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30. Dirty pool, maveric....
Especially since you as well as I reside here in Shangri La.

Though this cloudy coolness crap better stop soon or I'm going to the equator!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:29 PM
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33. This is too cold for me. I came here in 1980 after growing up in Boston.
22 degrees in Santee saturday night.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:36 PM
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35. I love winter - thank goddess - because our bad winters can be
REALLY REALLY REALLY bad...............

Not horrible today, though. About 8 below, 4' of snow, 2 1/2 hours of daylight.

Glad for you folks in the Lower 48 to come up and try it out............ :P Or, better still, let's take a drive up the Elliott Highway to Prudhoe Bay in January..................

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2sheds Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:24 PM
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57. I love winter too!!
I couldn't convince my husband to move to Alaska. I loooooove cold weather, though, and hatehatehate warm weather. Northofdenali, your current conditions sound fantastic to me! I also prefer the dark to daylight. :)
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:07 AM
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61. so how often do you see the aurora borealis
I have been there twice, in summer and of course it was light at 3am
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one_true_leroy Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:50 PM
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37. Atlanta...
Cold enough to suffer, not cold enough to snow. Just rain, merciless rain.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:57 PM
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40. Chicago, because it is so congested and when there is a heavy
snow there is no place to move the cars to clear the streets and alleys. And the sidewalks are so small there is no place to put the snow
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Mrs. Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:57 PM
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41. Washington, DC
Not because of the amount of snow, or even the cold temperatures. Washington, DC has a horrible winter because people in this area freak out when the first flake of snow falls. There do not seem to be many people here who know how to drive in a winter storm, and those same people do not have sense enough to stay home when it's too dangerous for them to drive.

The Washington, DC metropolitan area has some of the worst traffic in the entire U.S.A. when the weather is good. When the weather is snowy, or we have sleet or freezing rain, forget about going anywhere. People here in their big honking SUVs don't realize that 4-wheel drive doesn't mean they can stop faster.

:grr:
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:45 PM
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51. You are so right
I was in Washington for a January years ago and there was and inch or so of snow. I was so shocked, the city actually closed down. This Minnesota girl cast a scornful look in all diretions.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:58 PM
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42. Los Angeles..
it's been in the 40s here lately!! :evilgrin:


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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:59 PM
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43. Minot, ND
Coldest place in the lower 48.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:05 PM
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44. Erie, PA
You gotta see it to believe it.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:16 PM
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47. I grew up on Lake Erie between Erie and Buffalo, and I can safely
say that that whole area sucks in the winter :)
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:15 PM
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46. My wife grew up in Watertown, N.Y.
She describes it as Buffalo, only smaller and with some SERIOUS snow (not those pussy Buffalo flurries).
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:14 PM
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53. Buffalo is also a summer hellhole, imho. n/t
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:20 PM
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54. What is snow?
:shrug:
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:20 PM
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55. I've lived in Boston and Denver. Boston is cold cold cold!!!!
It's freakin' freezing here. And the snow is nothing to sneeze at.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:24 PM
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56. I think Indianapolis is incredibly boring/dreary
because it's cold but NOT snowy enough.



Seems you might as well get a bunch of snow or be warmer.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:41 PM
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59. Im sorry Buffalo has the best Summers and Falls... winter lasts
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 11:41 PM by frictionlessO
to long but at least we have four seasons!

Poor Buffalo... you peeps just gotta come out for summer and fall that'll change your minds.. unless your from here and think that... then you're just bitter!
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