Dimebag Darrell (Pantera/Damageplan) and 4 others shot dead

[dolo amber]

http://www.disinfo.com/site/displayarticle7958.html

That's pretty fucked up, right there... :(

[ET Awful]

1. WTF?

I was never a huge fan, but Darrell was a pretty decent guitarist (as far as that kind of music goes). It was obviously pre-planned, at least according to http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3983630/detail.html

That is pretty fucked up, no doubt.

[bbernardini]

2. I wonder when footage will surface...

A strange thought, I know. However, I'm heavily active in the trading of "unauthorized" live recordings, and I'd say the odds are pretty good somebody had a video camera in there when everything went down.

[dolo amber]

4. Very good point

I'm hearing/reading that the dude was followed onto stage by security and another club employee...if true, that puts a very, very odd wrinkle into the whole story...:shrug:

[HughBeaumont]

3. Not the biggest Pantera fan

But what happened last night was a tragedy beyond words.

Darrell Abbott inspired lots of people to play guitar. No one should have to get killed doing what they love and live for.

My condolonces to his family and fans. It's sad.

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Weird I JUSt saw a sweepstakes where you could win a signed guitar of his

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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
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[realisticphish]

6. what scares me

is I live in columbus, and the ONLY reason I wasn't at the Alrosa was because Ministry was playing close to my dorm and I am a bigger Ministry fan than pantera. but ANY other night, and i could have been there. :scared:


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[DS1]

7. NO FUCKING WAY!!!

:puke: I think I'm gonna be sick.

It's Pantera in my CD player for the rest of the week

RIP Dimebag

[NoodleBoy]

16. word

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

8. I was just reading that!

Jesus!

[Maestro]

9. Crap! What the hell happened?

I wonder if his brother is alright. This is awful. I loved Pantera and liked the new iteration, Damage Plan as well. They were from Dallas, my area. This hasn't hit our local news yet that I know of.

[mattclearing]

10. Jesus. Trouble in metal land.

That's too bad. Was never a big fan of Pantera, but they get props for making some great music. A lot of my friends were fans.

[Maestro]

11. more here

It has hit my local Dallas news...

http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/topstories_story_344071008.html

[sniffa]

12. i bet it was kip winger

[DS1]

14. *snort*

My Glock's Magaziiinne
It only holds eigtheeeenn

/off to hell

[chenGOD]

13. Yeah I just read that...craziness...

The world gets a little angrier and a little crazier every day.

RIP Dimebag....:yourock: :yourock: :headbang: :cry:

[chenGOD]

15. It was on the "anniversary" of John Lennon's death too...:( n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

17. Hmmmm!

Another distrubed wannabe? Do it on the same day, make big press, become famous (or infamous)?

Good catch on that.
The Professor

[Beware the Beast Man]

18. Wow...that is fucked up.

RIP, Dimebag...

[Zuni]

19. While I am not a fan of Pantera this is just awful

This is a tragedy, a horrible act that will not only scar the lives of Darrell's friends and family, but all of the fans there who had to witness a murder.
I believe Darell was a regular contributor to guitar playing and other music publications, helping to teach people guitar and such.

My prayers for his soul and the people who cared about him.

[kedrys]

28. Darrell's articles in Guitar Player were great...

...and in his interviews, he came across as a genuine guitar hero, looking to teach and learn, and working hard to help others who looked up to him. My favorite quote from him is "Hey, a guitar has 6 strings, use them all!"

He will be missed.

[Beware the Beast Man]

20. Yet Phil Anselmo still trudges on. How ironic.

[dolo amber]

22. Jon Bon Jovi lives as well

There is no justice. :cry:

[Phillycat]

43. I think it's unnecessary to wish for others' death because we've

had this tragedy. I am sorry for DD's family and fans, but I am a fan of Bon Jovi and as far as I know, Jon hasn't advocated DD's death like Phil Anselmo. I'm not trying to be a hardass, but I thought this was a bit uncalled-for.

Not to mention, JBJ is a big liberal. :)

[Beware the Beast Man]

52. Perhaps I should explain:

Phil Anselmo had (or may still have) a pretty healthy heroin habit and has OD'd at least once, hence the irony of it all. I wasn't wishing death upon anybody.
I hereby award you the Golden Ladel Award for stirring the pot.

[Phillycat]

53. Perhaps you should go back and read my post.

I was responding to Dolo Amber's post about Bon Jovi, not your post about Phil Anselmo.

[Beware the Beast Man]

54. You still get the Golden Ladel.

No givebacks.

[Phillycat]

55. Eh, okay.

I'll take it. :evilgrin:

[redqueen]

21. This is on all the stations this morning.

Lots of people knew this him. Sounds like he was a genuinely nice guy.

Hard to listen to people that normally crack jokes all morning breaking down instead.

[BiggJawn]

23. Hell, even *I* knew who "Dimebag Darrell" was...

Damn....Wanna bet the shooter was a little torqued over Pantera breaking up?

[raggedcompany]

24. awful, awful news

big love to Dimebags friends and family. I'm sorry to hear this. Awful.

[Demrock6]

25. Big fan of Dime!!

It is a very sad day for metal. My singer called my this morning and told me. I already went through: denial, shock, grief, and anger. Got my Pantera t-shirt on under my work shirt, Pantera cds at my desk.

I heard that Vinne Paul the drummer might have been wounded and some repots say 2 members of the band were killed. If he dies to that will be both of the Abbot boys gone. This is so bullcrap. I can expect Ozz to kick off but not Dime.

I guess the motive was the killer was pissed about the Pantera break up. Bastard should have killed Phil instead.

[redqueen]

27. If what I heard is correct the rest of the band is OK.

The psycho shot some people in the audience, though.

[Beware the Beast Man]

29. Give Phil some time, he'll eventually end up killing himself

at the rate he's going.

[kedrys]

26. Aw man... :( n/t

[coloradodem2005]

30. This is a bunch of bullshit.

To take away one of Metal's greatest heroes. I cannot imagine how emotionally scarred the survivors of this will be. Some of them may never attend another concert because of this.

[DubyaSux]

31. It'll be...

....interesting to see whether the murderer had a new concealed carry permit.

[RossMcLochNess]

32. I hope Phil Anselmo feels good this morning...

Here are some quotes from an interview he gave last week to Metal Hammer (UK) Magazine:

"I think, more or less, it lies between Dimebag and I."

"I could kill him like a fuckin' piece of vapor, you know, he would turn into vapor — his chin would, at least, if I fuckin' smacked it."

"I have a devoted following that would do anything for me! Anything that I say."

Well, Phil, I hope you are happy. One of your "devoted following", Nathan Gale, listened to you and he did prove that there are morons out there who would do anything for you. I hope you're happy and that you and your buddy Nathan can spend the rest of eternity in Hell for all I care. God Bless ya Dimebag.

[DS1]

33. Phil's an asshole, and his new band sucks

[Maestro]

35. They suck hard

Phil has gone off the deep end. It is time for him to stop taking so much drugs.

[DS1]

44. Thing is, it's already killed him once, which probably promotes

the invincible attitude once the shock of actually being dead wears off.

[Maestro]

34. Phucking Phil

Left the band high and dry without any explanation, then disses them any chance he can get. Hell, Vinnie and Dimebag were just out for a good time; nothing more. And then some morans goes and does this. WTF is wrong with people. Damn, this pisses me off. I wish the Dimebag's and Vinnie's family well.

[redqueen]

36. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

:nuke:

[charlie]

47. I read that interview

It wasn't as sinister as those lifted quotes winging around the net make it sound. He was complaining how Dime would get drunk and rage in his face all the time, how he could've easily pasted him for it, but didn't. And the "devoted following" bit was just some leaving-Pantera-hasn't-diminished-my-popularity braggadocio, not a claim to being a Svengali. It's a bit much to hang this on him.

Otherwise though, yeah, Phil's an asshole.

[Mr. Mousie]

74. Oderus from GWAR re: Phil

A few weeks ago Dave Brockie AKA Oderus Urungus had this to say about Phil Anselmo:

"Dave Brockie: "About two years ago. We know his girlfriend Kate; she's a good friend of ours. So we called Kate, and we said, 'What the fuck is up with Phil badmouthing GWAR?' So she asked him about it and he says , 'I didn't say anything about GWAR!' About a week later, I'm doing this interview in Denver and the first thing he asked me was why is Phil Anselmo so not into GWAR? I just talked to him the other day and he spent the whole interview talking shit about you guys! So I let him have it. I mean, he won't be the first to die by the sword, that redneck moron. First of all, no one gives a fuck about PANTERA anymore. Second, he should get his fuckin' racist, redneck, chunky, ass off the fuckin' mic talking shit about bands that are heavy metal fuckin gods. If you're gonna complain about something, why don't you complain about the election, why not complain about the fascist state our country is slipping into, why don't you complain about that fact that you're a junkie? Why do you want to rip GWAR? You sure as fuck don't want to get into any kind of match with me, because I'm going to kick your fuckin' ass!"

I'm very glad to see someone in heavy metal calling that loser out on his right-wing bullshit.

[Mr. Mousie]

75. hold the phone...

Just found this apology. Shit. I can see why he'd apologize for some of the shit he said, but I wish he hadn't backed off of his criticism of Phil being a racist ass, and I DEFINITELY wish he hadn't said "Long Live Superjoint Ritual"...

"I want everybody to know that this past weekend I personally apologized to both Phil and Kate for the erroneous, vicious, and inflammatory remarks recently made by myself. That shit about Phil trying to score dope on the bus happened at least eight years ago and is ancient history. Kate has always been just our friend and never anything more (though she hates me now, I'm sure). The only reason I vomited forth such crap is because I felt my band was under attack. Since talking to Phil over the weekend I realize that, too, was bullshit. I was goaded by the press and lashed out in anger, falling totally into a trap. In doing so, I hurt some people I really love and respect. I would even apologize in person if given the opportunity, and seeing as we are headed to New Orleans on our current GWAR tour, I hope Phil and Kate would consider that as an option to mend the pain I have caused. Once again, my full and most sincere apologies to Philip Anselmo, Kate and all concerned. Long live SUPERJOINT RITUAL, long live GWAR, long live metal!!!!!!!"

[Djinn]

76. Phil's been pretty fucked up for a LONG time

going back to the Pantera days - he should have kept his mouth shut but raging drug habits do strnge things to people.

He DIDN'T kill Darrell - while I've never done it in public I've said "i could kill XXX" plenty of times - so have most people, doeasn't mean I'm repsonsible if someone else does.

Flashing back to my teenage years now (music taste has changed but Vulgar Display still gets the odd spin) very sad.

[lovedems]

37. My husband is devastated today and he wants to know who the other

band member was that was killed. He is *PISSED* because he said, "Damn, if J. Low goes on a date it is all over the fucking national news!"

Does anyone know who the other band member is? He thinks Vinny was shot but not killed but doesn't know for sure.

My husband is in deep mourning today. He is a guitarist who was inspired by Dime.

[Phillycat]

38. They have not released the other name yet.

I just checked several sources. They may be trying to contact his family before they make it public.

Sorry about your husband. :(

[lovedems]

40. Thanks.

He is really bummed out (which is kind of unusual because normally things like this don't effect him this much). There are truly some sick, sick people out there. That bums me out.

[slutticus]

42. I heard vinnie was shot...but he wasn't killed

.... :(

[Phillycat]

45. I don't think so. There was one other member of the band that was

shot, and that person was definitely killed. And no names have been released. Now, if you have inside information from the club, you know more than I do. But that's cross-references with several sources.

[slutticus]

48. You're right.

I just read this...


http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=3398


:(

[lovedems]

46. I agree

:-(

I also agree with my husbands point, had this been J. Low, it would be all over the freaking news today, non stop. I guess Dime wasn't mainstream enough for the corporate whores.

This is a big deal for my hub. and he is having to track down information from everywhere *but* the "news".

[Beware the Beast Man]

61. Actually, it is a pretty big news story- I've seen a lot of headlines.

Then again, I'm in Ohio.

[lovedems]

64. I am in Illinois

but you know the jury in the Scott Peterson trial is getting to deliberate today and I think they actually caught a high speed police chase on video.

[americanstranger]

65. Fox has been on it all day.

They have had 'experts' like Ted Nugent (screw him) on, decrying how 'evil' some Americans are.

No doubt, this is gonna open up another front on the war to 'clean up' America - no doubt by trying to police metal shows out of freakin' existence. After all, it is the Devil's music, right? (a little sarcasm there.)

-as

[mountainvue]

73. Nugent? That's rich.

Mr. "pro every kind of weapon known to man" is the perfect Fox commentator for this.

[Zero Gravitas]

69. according to the first reports I saw last night

it was Vinnie.

[RetroLounge]

39. This is so totally fucked up in so many ways

RL

[slutticus]

41. Holy shit...

...I heard about this on Howard Stern this morning.


This sucks...I grew up listening to Pantera :( ...well....since highschool anyway....


Man...this really sucks

[GATOR MONROE]

49. one of those 4 others was...

the scumbag shooter and he was a republican poster on protest warrior, he deserved two shot gun blasts to the upper torso.

[slutticus]

50. You're fucking kidding right?

He was a member of PW?
how do you know this?


not surprising if he was

[charlie]

51. Waitaminute

You're gonna have to post something to back that up. Coming in here to stoke up a board war for giggles isn't cool.

[GATOR MONROE]

56. let's seperate THE VICTIMS from...

the unter mench shooter, sorry i just could not resist the ultimate put down of this less than human guy who was banned from fearbush 3 times.

[charlie]

58. In other words, you've got nothing

Put a lid on that VICTIMS crap. If you've got sources, spill them.

[RossMcLochNess]

57. Proof?

Don't get me the wrong, I've already made my feelings known about the shooter, but how would you know anything about his background? Proof please? I'm not buying your story.

[charlie]

59. I'm looking at protestwarrior right now

If he was a member, they don't seem to know it.

[GATOR MONROE]

60. NOW that i have your attention ...

look at power pop threads in pop culture forum????

[Ediacara]

62. The names of the others killed:

From a Yahoo News story:

Besides Abbott (Dimebag) and Gale (shooter), police said the dead included Nathan Bray, 23, and Erin Halk, 29. Police said the name of the fifth person killed was being withheld pending notification of family.

The whole story, which has a pretty coherent explanation of what happened (it appears the shooter was screaming something about breaking up Pantera, and had a hostage), can be found here.

[americanstranger]

63. I can understand being upset that a band breaks up...

but damn, nowhere near that upset.

Gotta be more to it than that. Gotta be.

-as

[tigereye]

66. the idea that someone would kill musicians while they

are on stage (or at all) is horrifying. That is very sad. :(

[johnnie]

68. 5th person

Jeff Thompson. I don't know if he is with the band's crew or not.

[Danger Duck]

67. While it's tragic...

the phrase "dimebag" is being used on every news outlet today.

[ZoCrowes]

70. Nowhere near my favorite guitarist

but the dude always had good things to say about other players in every interview I've read.

[LostInAnomie]

71. My best years of High School and after were filled with Pantera.

I used get pumped for football games and track meets by listening to "By Demons Be Driven", and "Regular People". My friends and I would spend our weekends getting drunk and partying listening to "Vulgar Display of Power" and "Far Beyond Driven" all while our girlfriends bitched in a corner about the music. I can't imagine what my formative years would have been like if Pantera hadn't been helping me along the way. I can't believe the person who is responsible for getting me through the years was cut down for no reason.

I hope at his funeral they play Cemetery Gates, and Hollow. It would just seem fitting.

[Mr. Mousie]

72. Any word from Phil?

Anybody heard any comments from Phil Anselmo? He's one sketchy motherfucker and RIGHT WING as FUCK. I'm curious to hear what he says about it.

Man--I really feel for the families of everyone involved--including the family of the killer--they certainly didn't ask for this kind of attention.