DU Women: What kind of franchise bar would appeal to YOU?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

In the Hooter's thread, I posted the following opinion:

But what I would pay a premium for would be a bar where the waiters wore nice jeans and sweaters and regaled their women customers with brilliant and witty conversation.

I'd elaborate and say that I wouldn't care how old they were or whether they looked like movie stars, but they would have to be clean and neat and have wicked eyes. The brilliant and witty conversation would include allusions to both high and popular culture and current events.

Would that appeal to you, or would some other kind of experience serve as a Hooter's equivalent for you?

(Let's keep the talk non-sexist, saying what we would like rather than what we wouldn't like. And no, I'm NOT conducting market research. I just think that such a thread might be educational for some of our DU men.)

[Frogtutor]

1. I don't know if it could work as a franchise, but

GUYS! CLEAN THE HOUSE! I swear to God, there wouldn't be a bigger turn on for me than that...

[Lydia Leftcoast]

2. How about a bar that dispatched a crew of guys to clean your house

while you sat there sipping your favorite beverage? :-)

[hlthe2b]

4. Now there's a winning idea!

LOL

[Frogtutor]

5. Yeah, that could work...

but, being married, it would be ideal if my husband were the cleaner!

You know what would be ironic? If he was too tired for sex after cleaning LOL

[blondeatlast]

32. ROFLMAO! Don't I know it! nt

[Frogtutor]

25. Oooooo, oooooo!! I've got it!!!

A SPA/bar combo that dispatches a crew of guys to clean your house while you sit there being pampered AND sipping your favorite beverage!!

Oh, wait...you have to die to go to heaven, don't you?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

26. I could go for that

:7

[blondeatlast]

33. Oh, yeah... nt

[hlthe2b]

3. I think most women would also say get rid of the bar stools....

and replace with a more intimate setting--like nice chairs, side tables, small cushy couches, etc. More coffee-house-like and less sports bar like. Nothing worse than being dressed up in a skirt and heels and trying to sit on a bar stool for hours on end.

But, yes... Smart (not smart-ass) waiters who could engage in some intelligent conversation would be nice. Sense of humor a bonus..

[eyesroll]

8. Nothing like being 5'2", in a skirt, and trying to get up on

one of those way-high-up barstools.

Actually, I would just like a classy place where there is no television, the jukebox doesn't have nothing but Blink 182 and there is a "cocktail menu," and not a "martini menu," because just because it's in a martini glass doesn't make it a martini.

[trof]

31. Unique seating

In one of my favorite saloons there were comfortable chairs at the bar and the bartenders' "alley" was about 2 feet below floor level.

[Misunderestimator]

6. I'd prefer a bar where there were only women, but your bar seems

kinda sad... The kind of guys that would be waiting tables there and speaking with knowledge and grace on subjects of high and popular culture and current events... shouldn't have to be waiting tables. I'd imagine most of those waiters wouldn't be too happy with their jobs... not unlike Hooters' waitresses. Hmm..

[Frogtutor]

9. They could be EXTREMELY well-paid, and imagine the tips!

Can you imagine how much women would pay for a place like this?

LOL

[sir_captain]

14. Heh...maybe

but let's be honest...ask any bartender and they'll tell you that women are lousy tippers...

[RagingInMiami]

17. I waited tables for four years

and women are not good tippers. It seems like the more they flirt with you, the less obligated they are to leaving you a tip.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

20. I don't know, I always tip

and whenever I've been out with a group of women, we've always tipped, too. The only bad tippers I know are older (as in way older) women like my mother (now age 83) and my late grandmother who never tipped more than a dollar. (I used to sneak back and add to the tip.)

But I have been ignored by waitresses who were flirting with groups of guys and ignoring my requests for more water or dessert. In those cases I stiffed the waitresses and left them a note explaining why.

[sir_captain]

22. It's obviously good that you do

but seriously, talk to some bartenders. They've all told me that women generally don't tip well, and that the best place for tips are male gay bars.

[RagingInMiami]

24. I've asked women about this

and they tell me that they have to save their money for make up and things that men generally don't need to buy.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

28. Or you worked in a place that attracted spoiled airheads

who were used to the man paying for everything.

:shrug:

[blondeatlast]

36. My thoughts exactly. I'm a damn good tipper--so much so I'm remembered! nt

[Misunderestimator]

35. Oh PLEASE!!

I'm afraid I don't know any women like that. Nice way to paint women as vacuous.

[blondeatlast]

34. Very good point! nt

[RagingInMiami]

7. And if you ask the waiters what they're thinking

they would respond with "just how beautiful you are" or something to that effect.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

10. Actually, I wouldn't like that

because if I get a compliment from a man, I want it to be sincere, not some one-size-fits-all line that he tosses about randomly.

As for the intelligent witty guys working as waiters, you may not be aware that there are a lot of men with humanities or social science degrees or the mid-career unemployed who would be perfect for such jobs.

[RagingInMiami]

12. My post was a take on another thread that was posted yesterday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=2174526

[skygazer]

11. Honestly?

That really holds no appeal for me. I go to a bar to drink and socialize with friends, not to schmooze with the waitstaff. I don't really need some kind of a gimmick - I like a comfortable neighborhood bar with no band (I like it quiet), a pool table, a dartboard and a bartender who knows how to make a decent drink.

[Cadence]

13. The Hooters equivalent

would be really hot, buff, tan guys without shirts, in just jeans and a smile!

Wait! Even better, same really hot guys but shirtless in firemen uniforms!! Ooooooh that's goooood. Somebody open that!

:thumbsup:

[redqueen]

15. I'd like them shirtless and built.

And they have to crouch down so they have to look up at you as you order.

And they have to wear tight pants that show the bulge and the butt really well.

That's all I can think of right now...

[Lydia Leftcoast]

18. Sorry, Cadence and redqueen, due to health regulations in most places,

they'd have to wear shirts.

[redqueen]

23. Okay how about see-thru?

[Cadence]

29. Oh darn.

O.k. but do they have to be buttoned? ;)

[Frogtutor]

38. Then how do titty bars get away with serving meals?

God, I wouldn't be surprised if even the NUDIE bars get away with it. I hear radio commercials all the time advertising lunch and dinner (buffets, usually) at "gentlemen's" clubs.


Gross

:puke:

[Dora]

16. Shaved and oiled men in shiny beige tights

wearing cod pieces and dishing out lukewarm chicken wings. The clumpy mascara is optional.

But seriously: clean, low-lighting, pleasant bartenders, fair prices and a decent juke box and a stage for live acts in the corner - that'll get me every time.

Wicked eyes help.

[Patiod]

19. Problem is, all my ideas would probably turn it into a gay bar

Buff guys in different uniforms, lots of buff guys in cowboy hats and boots with sexy drawls.....I see it as a girl attractor for about 3 days before the boys find it.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

21. I'd be willing to share with the gay guys, except that

my ideal bar wouldn't depend so much on how the waiters looked as how they acted.

[no name no slogan]

27. How about "Woody's"

We need a new chain-- call it "Woody's"

I figure it will have a 1960s SoCal surfing theme, with male waiters and old '30s wood-paneled cars in the decor, like the beach bums used to drive...



And the logo? A buff-looking himbo in 1960's style swim trunks, holding out a rather phallic-looking old-fashioned longboard at a "suggestive" angle. Probably not as cool looking as the owl, but you get the picture. :7

[Frogtutor]

30. VERY creative...I'm impressed! n/t

[blondeatlast]

37. I like it! I've always liked the "surfer" look! nt

[NashVegas]

39. If they could be witty and brilliant and nude

I'd be up for it.