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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:35 PM
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I can't get over how disturbing this is.

Viktor Yushchenko poisoned with dioxin
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:38 PM
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1. Will he recover or is it permanent?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:40 PM
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4. I have the impression that the scarring is permanent
A news article I read said that the dioxin poisoning caused a severe form of acne (which is really inflammation) on his skin. I would think that the scars will remain.

Also, it sounds like the dioxin hurt his liver very badly, which means that he may have long-term issues.

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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:40 PM
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5. He'll recover
If whoever wanted to poison him wanted him dead, he'd be dead already. This is pure Goebbels.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:57 PM
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16. Not if they were killing him slowly?
I can't decide whether they wanted him to look like he got sick and died naturally, or whether they wanted to just fuck up his looks so he looked unsightly (and therefore unpresidential).
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:40 PM
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6. I wondered the same thing. eom
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vinnievin777 Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:38 PM
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2. Imperialists
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:39 PM
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3. Holy shit!
My god, that poor man.
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:40 PM
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7. It always make me wonder
is that the same man... I guess the people who knew him before, knows its the same man...but, i sure have my doubts.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:43 PM
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8. This is scarry
I feel so sorry for him. He was really good looking before.
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jbane Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:47 PM
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9. Very, very creepy.
Is it true that there was an attempt to slip Castro something to make his beard fall out?
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sadinred Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:52 PM
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10. The men in the photos have different color eyes!!! ???? n/t
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:55 PM
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13. Different lighting, that's all.
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sadinred Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:01 PM
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20. Yeah? They really look different. I believe you though. n/t
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:52 PM
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11. God that is horrible.
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 04:53 PM by Seldona
Dioxins are nasty.

I had a hard time believing they put that shit in tampons.

My wife now goes to the local coop to get hers.

It literally solved her heavy flow problems overnight.

Sorry if that was to much info, but I was floored by it and want to get the word out.

typo edit
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:56 PM
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14. Wow I never heard of that!
That is WAY uncool...dioxins? Really?
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:58 PM
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19. Yep.
They use them to bleach the materials white. Some brands are worse than others, but I have not found a listing yet.

But here is some info.

http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/tamponsabs.html
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:57 PM
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15. the hell with TMI, I'm glad you said this
lord knows, Tampax isn't going to tell us.

anyway, how awful for this man. I am saddened.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:10 PM
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22. Okay let me clarify.
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 05:16 PM by Seldona
It looks to be an urban legend.

Just did some reading, and it appears this is been going around the internet for awhile.

Man I hate falling for this stuff. I feel so silly.

I am so sorry!

Should have done my research before posting, but the original source posted an FDA link that did not discount it.

I bow on humbled knee and beg your forgiveness, though I am going to so more research on the subject.

Sorry to hijack the thread...

On edit here is a link supporting the claims, and snopes has it as well.

http://yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=1366

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/tampon.htm

Snopes does not discount the Dioxin claim, but does not know if it is dangerous levels or not.

So it may well be true.

Talk about a muddled issue!

I know this much, my wife is not changing any time soon. Worked for her.

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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:15 PM
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23. I had heard that tampons contain dioxin, as a consequence of bleaching
process. That's why organic cotton tampons were developed.
And you did say your wife experienced a noticeable difference after switching to non-dioxin (bleached), right?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:26 PM
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26. "tampons can contain low levels of dioxin"...
"(tampons can contain low levels of dioxin and it would be better if they contained none)"

from here:
http://www.stiller.com/tampon.htm

My reason for not using them any longer is that when I stopped, my periods were 3 days shorter and I had less painful cramps.

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sbj405 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:40 PM
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28. Either way, tampons are one item where I insist on organic
I switched about a year ago. Yeah, they are more expensive my given what's at stake I'm willing to pay a bit more
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:16 PM
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24. Self-delete
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 05:16 PM by Misunderestimator
now that I read a bit further :)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:53 PM
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12. I read somewhere thathis face will return to normal, perhaps some scarring
but once he's no longer exposed to dioxin it should slowly return...and that it could take a year or so...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:34 PM
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27. Here's something from abc news internationial
it's chloracne?, says it will clear up.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=321794
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:57 PM
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17. Who did it?
Do we know how it happened?
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:58 PM
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18. Sounds like a job from Barron Vladimir Harrkonnen
This is a Dune job. Classic political sabotage.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:09 PM
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21. The House Harkonnen must fall!
;)
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:22 PM
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25. Reminiscent to the David Ferrie, JFK days,
Covert ops. Your tax money is spent mostly on ways to kill.

I guess it's popular everywhere.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:11 PM
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29. It is horrible, vicious, unconscionable and downright frightening.
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