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Sat Dec-11-04 05:23 PM
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I got another deer today. |
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I went bow-hunting, and just after noon, I got an 8-point buck that field-dressed at 148 lbs. I'm donating the meat to our food pantry, because we already have 2 in our freezer.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:29 PM
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for a deer license these days?
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:31 PM
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Like $15 for the permit, and $10 for a hunting license.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:29 PM
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:32 PM
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This one is going to become burger and roasts.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:01 PM
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:31 PM
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4. Why didn't you hunt it with an AK-47 like a real man? |
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:32 PM
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The gungeon evacuation into the lounge has begun. :scared:
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:35 PM
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I'm harmless, around people. All my guns are under lock and key, as is the ammo.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:33 PM
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Even when I use a shotgun, I use a single-shot, Model 27 Winchester Steelbuilt with a bead sight. I've always thought those 'Buck Rogers' types with the laser sights and so on must be pretty bad shots, if they need all that crap.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:36 PM
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14. But, lasers are cool! |
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Lazers! Technology! Faster pussycat, KILL! KILL! KILL!
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:38 PM
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I'd suggest putting in more practice on their aim, then they wouldn't NEED all that high-tech garbage.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:45 PM
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21. If you need an assault rifle to hunt, you suck at hunting. |
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:47 PM
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I've taken 8 deer with 9 shots...
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:39 PM
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17. only if the AK has a bayonet lug |
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real men bayonet their kill.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:41 PM
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Some of the stories I could tell about 'hunters' I've met...
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:51 PM
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24. yea, one time this squirrel stole my velveeta sammich, |
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an' i had ta take him out with my mac-10. took me four clips, but i got tha little bastard.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:32 PM
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7. That's cool that you're donating the meat |
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That sounds pretty cool-going deer hunting.
I've never been.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:34 PM
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I love being in the woods. :)
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:42 PM
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19. There's so many deer up where I live in CT |
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I think you need to come out here and do your thing because I almost hit the poor creatures almost every night when I'm driving home from work.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:43 PM
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There are more deer here now than there were when IL became a state. They're real road hazards.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:49 PM
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23. So, then you oppose the hunting or elimination of predators |
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who would keep the deer population under control ?
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:52 PM
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I'd love to see wolves, wildcats/mountain lions/cougars re-introduced and protected here.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:12 PM
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32. I think you misread my post |
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Those predators Being protected would imply that you WOULD oppose the hunting of them (until they were overpopulated, at least).
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:14 PM
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I favor their re-introduction w/preotection for them, until a viable, balanced ecosystem is restored.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:29 PM
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47. who is keeping human population under control? |
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i dont hear ya complaining
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:52 PM
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Well, in Iraq anyway
And, I don't see your point. While I don't hunt or want to, I don't favor its prohibition as long as it's not gratuitous killing (such as using multiple-shot weapons, explosives, etc.) There are hunters and just plain killers.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:11 PM
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Im just concerned about the menaces of a growing population
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:54 PM
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26. My friends mom hit one and her car looked like |
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she drove right into a brick wall. Like $7,000 worth of damage.
I've had some close calls then I bought myself some deer whistles to put on my car. They seem to be working.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:33 PM
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9. My father-in-law got a 10 pointer a couple of weeks ago |
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black powder.
Of course he was using his son's stand so my brother-in-law is taking some of the credit (yes my B-i-L is as ass).
Congrats.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:34 PM
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It's the first one I ever got, with a bow.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:36 PM
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I always thought that those hopped up guns were unsporting somehow. No skill involved.
Glad to hear your donating the meat.
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Sat Dec-11-04 05:37 PM
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Yeah, I don't like all the high-tech stuff. Seems less sporting.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:00 PM
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27. cool- some people are going to |
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are going to eat some deer meat. my father in law used to hunt deer and if he got more than he needed it went to a needy families he`d run across. do they check for deer wasting disease where you are at?
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:01 PM
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We're both involved with our food pantry, and the one thing they ALWAYS need is meat.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:01 PM
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28. I just want to know why the f**k you have to brag about |
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killing an innocent animal. This is the same as our country going to war and slaughtering people who meant no harm to us, just as that deer was no threat to you.
On edit: You other hunters may flame away at me, but I will still stand my ground against hunting. There are enough dead animals in the super market if you want meat. Or does killing an innocent animal give you a thrill?
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:04 PM
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31. Because they're good to eat. |
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It's not even remotely the same as going to war...
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:15 PM
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34. My forestry agent was up here last week and he said |
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That because of the poor nut crop this year (acorn, hickory etc) they expect to see a lot of starving deer. I have 3 in the freezer so far. We had deer tenderloin 2 nights ago, man, it melted in your mouth.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:16 PM
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36. I'm sorry, I am a vegetarian and no living being that has feelings |
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and also feels pain when you kill it is good to eat.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:17 PM
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38. Everyone has an opinion. |
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Thanks for sharing yours. I have a different one, obviously.
:hi:
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:20 PM
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42. but it's so delicious |
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i know i know, sorry to mock you
but i know here in wisconsin, they're having pretty much open season, get as many as you can because of chronic wasting syndrome...the more deer there are the easier the disease spreads, the more deer suffer and the more dangerous they become to people.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:24 PM
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66. Wow, you've convinced me with your amazing facts. |
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I will run out and shoot a head of lettuce tonight...
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:47 PM
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88. I agree. What a crazy comparison. |
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:15 PM
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35. Have you ever seen a deer starving to death? |
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I haven't personally. Just the pictures my sister took in northern Michigan during a hard winter a few years back. Up till then she was anti-hunting too. According to vet's its a horrible death.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:17 PM
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37. Exactly. If you leave their population to their own devices, they suffer. |
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And no I don't view animals the same as humans.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:18 PM
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40. I don't anthropomorphize animals, either. |
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:22 PM
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44. See my post below. They are not left to their own devices. |
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All the deer herds in the U.S. are managed by the goverment and state agencies.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:23 PM
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The deer hunt is how we manage the herd. The state couldn't possibly do the work of 700,000 hunters.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:36 PM
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50. if they managed the herds |
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then chronic wasting syndrome wouldn't be such a problem in wisconsin
how the fuck do you think people ate before we had farms?
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:05 PM
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77. Excuse me. I work for one of these agencies that manage wildlife |
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What exactly do you think we do to manage them?
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:19 PM
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41. That's the usual excuse given for hunting. |
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But in fact, the DNR or wildlife agencies in all of the states manage the deer populations mainly for the benefit of the hunters. There are very few starving deer, as there are food plots set up to feed them in the winter.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:32 PM
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48. You obviously don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. |
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The reason that the deer herds aren't out of control is because of hunting. The DNR and the other agencies could not possibly control the herds on their own.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:40 PM
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I don't like hunting...I don't understand how someone can shoot and kill a beautiful animal like that. But you are right...it does thin the herd so they don't starve. I have family that are hunters, but I personally could never kill any animal. I do eat meat sometimes though soo...what can I say? But it does make me feel bad/sad when I think about where it came from!
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:06 PM
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55. I certainly do know what I am talking about. The DNR and |
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other agencies manage the deer herds for the hunters. I work for an outdoors magazine which is published throughout the U.S. and I know what is happening.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:26 PM
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69. "I work for an outdoors magazine " |
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:11 PM
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79. You most obviously do not. |
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They could not possibly control the deer population without the annual hunt. That is a fact.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:08 PM
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78. Food plots primarily keep the deer from overrunning farms |
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Are you trying to suggest that the government agencies are farming animals to be hunted? I'll try to avoid laughing at you, and just say no we aren't.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:16 PM
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81. Also over-population of deer can cause frequent car accidents |
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:21 PM
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84. Happens here in CT all the time. We are getting coyotes back and |
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other predators because of the over population of deer, but that is just not enough. The deer here starve and can spread disease. The hunters I know here have a great love for the outdoors and they are also one of the lines of defense to try and stop some of the environmental rape that has been going on over the last 4 years and will continue. I personally could not hunt, but good, legal hunters will always have my respect.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:17 PM
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39. send some of the meat up here |
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damnn it's been awhile since i've had venison...i don't hunt but i have friends who do, only none of them live in milwaukee anymore so i don't get any of their spoils...
mmm venison
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:20 PM
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43. go you -- congratulations! |
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My friendly hunter that I used to hit up for extras moved away, sigh.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:29 PM
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46. This is why Democrats SUCK....n/t |
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:57 PM
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54. Shootin' at unarmed beings that can't shoot back... |
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:11 PM
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58. I agree. And it supposedly called sportsmanship. |
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And the other side is not armed does not know that there is a game going on.
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Sat Dec-11-04 06:43 PM
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52. Have any of you ever seen deer with broken arrows sticking out of them? |
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It happens all too often with bow hunters. I've seen them at certain places where people feed them after hunting season's over, and they gather. It's really sad. Some of the deer have arrows sticking out of them from hunters who all too often don't hit them in the right spot. On the way to a hiking trail one day last winter, my wife and I drove by one of these feeding stations. We watched this one particular deer limping around with a broken arrow sticking out of it's hip. It was crushing to watch it struggle. No animal deserves a fate like that.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:08 PM
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56. I think you killed the thread n/t |
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:09 PM
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57. I know. That is why I am screaming about this. |
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There are so many animals that are hit and not recovered and not given a merciful death and then they are left to die in agony.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:13 PM
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60. AMUTHA FUCKA FUCK YOU SoNOF BITCH FUCKFACE |
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Sorry, thought I'd add my points to the flamewars
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:13 PM
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61. You said you donated the meat, which means that you did not |
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need the meat. So just why did you kill the deer? It wasn't for food. So in my opinion, it was just for the thrill of killing.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:23 PM
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65. Other people DO need the meat. |
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Like people who don't have the money to buy meat...
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:54 PM
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72. That is absolutely not true. People shoot animals because they like to. |
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There is nobody in this day and age who needs venison handed to them in order to survive. Nobody.
Look, I've got less problems with hunters than I do with some of the land develepors who are the real culprits in all this excess of deer running around. It's because of them that wild animals are all congregated into tiny tracts of land and percieved as being "overabundant." Hunters do keep the numbers down, which IS beneficial to the problem we've created, but please don't tell me anyone kills a deer because someone needs the meat. People kill deer because they enjoy doing it. Period. Some enjoy it for a combination of reasons like stalking and tracking, or just getting into the woods, or because they plainly love to shoot and kill something they consider unimportant and worth bragging about.
I'm not perfect either, btw. I don't hunt and never will, but I fish all the time in the summer. It's catch and release only, but I do know that I inadvertantly cause some harm to a small percentage of the fish I catch, and that makes me feel a little bad. To offset that, I promote good conservation practices in my area whenever I can.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:58 PM
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74. The folks who use our food pantry DO need it--- really. |
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It's serves really poor people for whom meat is a 'luxury' item all too often.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:13 PM
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80. I do believe you are very sincere about this. |
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No problem, man. It's just that I feel more for the lives of the wild animals than I do for the people who could use the food, but who don't need it to survive.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:17 PM
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:30 PM
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71. I guess reading comprehension isn't helped |
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by being Vegan?
The Food Pantry needed the meat.
I guess the beef cattle rancher that kills 100 cows to sell the meat to market is evil because "HE" didn't need it.
:eyes:
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:52 PM
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89. He donated the meat to people who wouldn't have deer any other way. |
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with hunting deer and donating to a shelter; indeed, I think it's admirable and generous.
He may not have needed the meat, but I guarantee you that people in the shelter to which he donated appreciated him doing so. I bet that their hunger prohibits them from making the moralistic pronouncements that you make, with your full tummy.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:18 PM
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62. Superb venison recipes, whenever ya'll come to a political standstill |
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My family eats wild game and wild poultry more often than we eat their sickly, anemic commercially produced beef and chicken/turkey counterparts. I believe we're much healthier, and I KNOW we're causing less destruction to our planets delicate eco-system.
So, whenever ya'll get tired of running around in self-righteous circles of semanticism, let me know and I'll gladly offer some very delicious methods of preparing those beasts.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:24 PM
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We eat a loy of game, too. Always up for a new recipe.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:19 PM
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63. A little history lesson folks. |
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First, I am not a hunter.
For all you folks who think that bringing back natural predators is the way to manage deer herds, I would like you to consider the following.
There was once a pest that destroyed thousands of deer and cattle annually. Since that pest was eliminated, the deer population has doubled. Should we re-institute that pest? And let nature take it's course.
The pest: Screwworm: Google it, find out about this natural pest.
There is no easy answer other than we all go back to living in caves.
Yes, there are bad hunters, and there are good hunters.
As long as the food is being eaten and not thrown away I have no problem with it.
I have a problem with some countries catching sharks, cutting off the fins, and throwing the remainder away. Same with mullet. Some countries catch them, take out the rowe and throw the remainder away.
Flame away, but do some googling about screwworm first.
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:25 PM
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68. Awww cmonnnnn.....donate it to me!!!!!! |
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:27 PM
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70. You're going to Jamaica! |
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I'lltrade you for some REAL plantains!
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:57 PM
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73. Native Americans honored their "animal brothers" they killed for food |
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I hope that this idea is not altogether lost on today's hunters -- just thinking or saying a few words over the animal to honor the courage and strength of the spirit which was sacrificed so that there could be food.
That, and a clean kill, of course.
Good hunting CL, and thanks for donating the meat. :thumbsup:
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Sat Dec-11-04 07:59 PM
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one less wild deer to roam free in our land... thank goodness.
stack it in the freezer with the rest :eyes: wouldn't want you to run out of meat or anything.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:00 PM
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76. I donated it to the local food pantry. |
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They're quite happy to get meat, or perishable food of any kind.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:17 PM
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83. Congrats! Nice of you to donate.... |
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Perhaps you could give the next one to this nice single parent with one child who would LOVE to have some deer sausage for Christmas morning. :-)
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:21 PM
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If I get another, I can see that happeneing.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:37 PM
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86. Of course I am kidding... |
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But I have to say that deer sausage, seasoned and mixed with the right amount or hog sausage, is truly a gift of the gods.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:37 PM
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We always have some made into summer sausage.
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:55 PM
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90. There is a butcher here who is the sausagemeister.; |
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He seasons it perfectly, and then smokes it, and god you could slap your mama it's so delicious!
By the way, look upthread at some of the posts I made. I think it is very admirable of you to hunt for food for hungry people who, in their hunger, would laugh at the arguments made by full-bellied moralists here.
You rock, CL! :yourock:
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Sat Dec-11-04 08:56 PM
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Fancy-pants, college educated, Madison, pinko, liberals infiltrated the DNR with SCIENCE and have the nerve to tell us god fearing, gun-toting, red-blooded good ol' boys how to hunt, our own natural heritage fer crists sakes! And charge us extry to boot! Seen anything? Me neither.
that was the word in the woods, circa 1974
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Sat Dec-11-04 09:02 PM
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92. Good for you for donating, and with a bow |
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to boot! I fondly remember having my first deer/venison parmesan; didn't know it could be/was prepared that way, but was it delicious!
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