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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:22 PM
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I need help learning how to say no
no, Mrs. Reagan not to drugs but to the Navy. God they called again, and my too nice part of me hasn't enabled me to be able to say 'bugger off' or 'umm no' or *slam phone*.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:24 PM
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1. Tell them you've moved and you don't know where you went
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:25 PM
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2. hah thats not so easy
I took a test called the ASVAB a few weeks ago, so they know I am still enrolled at the HS of my choice.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:26 PM
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4. Why is it so hard for you to say no? Is it always hard you
or just when it comes to this?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:27 PM
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5. hah I am too much of a soft asshole
Thats why and especially when it comes to this.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:29 PM
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7. Well toughen up damn you!
Start with small things, learn now, it will save some trouble later on in life.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:32 PM
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9. I can't, its not my personality
It would be like asking me to go up to a girl I like and suddnely flirt with them, thats not who I am.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:39 PM
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10. Well if you don't they will hound you until they wear you down
until you agree, they're are salesman and you don't want what they're selling. It's not like you're buying a car, ya know? You are talking about a choice that will affect the rest of your life. My nephew has been stop-lossed 2x now, he was due to come out over a year ago and he's still stuck in Iraq. Forward the calls to me, i'll tell no right quick.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:43 PM
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13. Yeah I know and believe me they can't sway me to say no, its
just I have a hard time saying no.
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azoth Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:26 PM
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3. Maybe you need to adopt a different strategy.
I'm not a "fuck off" kind of girl either - I think it's rude. So, without allowing the sales pitch to continue, I say "sorry, we're not interested. Please put us on your no-call list. Thanks." and ever-so-gently hang up.

No guilt and the deed is done.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:28 PM
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6. Ive been saying no I am not interested
and they say well the navy can pay for college, blahity blah blah.
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azoth Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:41 PM
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12. Perhaps I should read for comprehension, eh?
Bottom line: sure, the military can pay for college. You can sure as hell try to go in and choose a non-critical mos that will keep you far from where the "front line" may be, but you might not be able to do that. And no recruiter can promise it, either.

It's up to you. You could always flip a coin, eh?

I'm glad I don't have to make the choice. It's one my stepson will face in a few months.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:45 PM
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15. I have no plans to join the military after graduating, none
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:31 PM
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8. It's a crucial thing to learn
I had a problem with it and wound up with three kids.

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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:04 PM
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17. you had three kids by the navy recruiter?
you do have a problem saying no
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Bat Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:41 PM
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11. You don't have to say no.
Fuck with them.

Ask them if you could be guaranteed the "second shift" because you're a night person.

Ask them if the navy really is the gayest branch of the military, 'cause if so "I might be interested."

Tell them you can't swim and hang up.

This is like sex. After the first "no", it's game over. They are forcing themselves on you. They deserve to get fucked with.

Better yet, just say "Take me off your call list." I believe once you say that, they have to. It works for other telemarketers.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:44 PM
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14. hmmm good ideas
hah.
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Bat Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:55 PM
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16. Remember, a mind is a terrible thing to waste...
so why not bat theirs around like a cat toy.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:14 PM
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18. If *I* were in your situation, I'd tell 'em I'm gay.
"You didn't ask...but I told"

Hell, they'd appreciate it. Save them the trouble of kicking my ass out of their stupid military.

I suspect you woudn't want to do that, John. :-)

T
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:52 PM
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29. That's what I was going to suggest or say"Thanks but I'm a pacifist!"
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:17 PM
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19. What I'd say
"I'm positive I'm not going to enlist, and I hate seeing you waste your time on me. Maybe you should concentrate on people who are actually considering joining the navy."
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:25 PM
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20. Chinese waiter talk
Need I say more?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:28 PM
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22. I thought he was thai, wait are you talking about that simpsons episode
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:43 PM
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25. No.
Fake a chinese accent. Yell, mention food items like chicken fried rice, egg rolls, and egg foo young. Make sure he thinks he's calling Phong Woo's Dim Sum Palace.
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:28 PM
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21. If all else fails...
Pull a Cheney and tell them to F*ck off.
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Frogtutor Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:35 PM
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23. two words: Caller ID
I have a hard time telling these kinds of people to leave me alone, too. I just ignore all the phone calls that have numbers I don't recognize, or say "Out of area". I figure if it's someone who I want to talk to, they'll leave a message. Otherwise, it must be a telemarketer. I also registered my number on the national "Do Not Call" list.

:)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:41 PM
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24. Start telling them all about Dennis Kucinich
and the proposed Department of Peace and what a great idea you think it is. Do it to every recruiter who calls you. They'll stop calling.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:46 PM
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26. hah cool idea
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:48 PM
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27. Don't worry about whether people like you or not.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 02:52 PM by SarahBelle
I used to be the kind of person who'd never say "no" and ran myself ragged. You know what I figured out? People will drain all they can from you and it's up to you to set the boundaries. Also, the people who truly like you will like you anyway. The people who don't, it won't no matter what to do, so f*ck 'em and politely say "no".
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:50 PM
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28. you got that right, thanks
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:53 PM
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30. Just start singing "in the Navy"!
They'll get the idea.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:54 PM
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31. I dont know how that gose actually
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