bif
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:06 AM
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Is Bartcop a total asshole or what? |
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Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:14 AM by bif
I sent him an email asking him to give me credit when he runs one of my cartoons. Instead of emailing me back he posted this message on his site (and put words in my mouth to boot!). What a dickhead.
If you're not going to give me credit, how about not using my cartoons, okay?
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Dude, you totally went about this in the wrong way.
You didn't mention which cartoon was yours, ...so I can't stop making you angry. I went to your webpage and didn't see any recent toons that I've used. Why in the world do you not sign your work? People can't give your credit even if they want to. You opened with a double negative and a chip on your shoulder - that's a hueueueuge mistake. Think how different the world would be if angry people started by saying, "Thanks for using my cartoon, I'm flattered that you like it enough to use, but could credit my site for it so I can get more hits?" That's how you make friends and get more hits so people will notice your talent.
Once again, why in the world do you not sign your work?
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:08 AM
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1. i read his page frequently, and I think that's just the way he is. |
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM
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2. pretty jerky, imho. used to be good--now it's all about Bart. |
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM
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But he definitely DOES take "first impressions" too seriously, especially from electronic communications.
I'm sure that he has to answer a LOT of negative mail, even from supporters (there's always someone up in arms over SOMETHING he said), that he gets caught up in pissy answers.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:11 AM
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4. He sounds like one, for sure. But is it true, you didn't sign your toon? |
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Gotta sign your toons! Still, he sounds like the one with the attitude.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:13 AM
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7. I sign the ones I send to him |
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But I keep the ones on my site clean. But obviously someone knows the url because they go there to rip off the cartoons.
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Mon Dec-13-04 12:44 PM
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23. So, if someone "ripped" off your toon and sent it to Bart..... |
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How would he have known? I think that is why he is defensively asking why you don't sign them, because this is probably a frustration for him--on many submissions. I certainly understand where you are coming from, but why not give him benefit of the doubt? Just my thoughts....
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:12 AM
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5. his response sounded fine to me! |
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:13 AM
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6. Sounds like an A-hole, alright |
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:13 AM
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you could have been a bit more friendly and given a bit more of an explanation. I think you may need to chill out a little. Keep in mind that Bart gets a lot of email every day and doesn't have time to search down everything. if you want to get a mention, make sure you include the info and specifically ask for the mention. otherwise, sign your work.
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bif
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:16 AM
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9. Hey, I was nice the first time I emailed him |
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But when I didn't get a response and he ripped my cartoon off again I was a bit more rude.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:17 AM
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11. then stop sending him 'toons |
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:20 AM
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13. I quit sending him toons a long time ago. |
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Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:20 AM by bif
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:23 AM
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15. if you stopped sending them, |
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is someone else stealing them and sending them to bartcop then? he's getting them from somewhere, and I don't think he goes around stealing stuff from other websites.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:26 AM
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16. I don't know how he's getting them. |
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It's pretty simple to rip off an image though.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:30 AM
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18. It is really easy to rip off an image |
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Although you can put in some code to disable right-clicking, which is the easiest way to copy something. It won't cut it out entirely, but it makes it a bit harder. Also, why attack bartcop if you don't even know that he's the one stealing your images. He seems rather honest, which is why I'm saying that you shouldn't have come out with an attack like that, and bart was right to send you the email that he did. I feel for your situation though. it does suck when your work is stolen.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:36 AM
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He just posted his response on his website, making me look like the asshole. That's why I'm pissed. And he put words in my mouth. I never said anything about wanting credit so I could get more hits.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:17 AM
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:19 AM
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That's probably a flaw on our side - we don't have enough assholes to counter the right wing!
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:22 AM
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14. OK, you're mad. Rightfully so. |
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But (my wife says I always have a big but), you two are not communicating. And yes, to a degree Bartcop is an asshole. I don't think he would disagree with that characterization.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:28 AM
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17. Well, he was a total jerk TO YOU. |
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He still has a great site, tho. I read it everyday.
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Mon Dec-13-04 11:43 AM
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20. Sorry, I'm with Bart on this one |
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He says over and over that he doesn'thave a staff and gets tons of material. He makes mistakes sometimes as a result. He probably didn't remember your first email he gets so overwhelmed. I would be with you if he didn't make such a point of saying this stuff all the time.
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Mon Dec-13-04 12:00 PM
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21. Maybe not a total asshole but he sometimes takes off after |
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the wrong person. Sue him for violation of copyright, that would be fun and might make you famous!
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Mon Dec-13-04 12:33 PM
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Mon Dec-13-04 12:50 PM
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24. He should have emailed you, but his response was right, and funny |
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He should have emailed you to say what he said, but what he said was right, and it was a bit amusing, which is why he worded it that way.
Two possible reasons he didn't email you first: One, maybe he felt you were rude to him first. It sounds like he felt you attacked him first, without hearing his point of view, so he got you back by posting publicly. Second, maybe he gets this problem a lot, and just decided to use your case as an example.
I don't think his response was rude at all, though.
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