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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:29 AM
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Two questionS for DU office workers
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 11:44 AM by underpants
1.Do you have people in your office/building who turn the lights off in their office and work by (often dim) lamp-light? I'm not making a judgement I have just notice several people doing this at work.

2.Do you have people in your office/company who no one is really sure what it is they do?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:31 AM
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1. Answers
1. I have a large window that runs the length of my office. Most days I work by natural light instead of flourescent. My eyes like it better.

2. Do we have any? Hell, I *AM* one of those people. :7
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:32 AM
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2. Same here
nut no window... I see no daylight
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:33 AM
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4. LOL I guess I might qualify as well
People ar ealways askign me "Aren't you a 'computer guy'"? NO just because my office used to be near theirs and I am always taking smoke breaks with them does not meet I am one.

We have several people who I can't figure out and no one seems to know what they do. Maybe they don't actually work here and no one ever told them not to keep showing up (ala Kramer).
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catpower2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:39 PM
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24. Wait a minute, didn't you and your wife quit?
I thought you were working on a bambino.

Cat
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 03:45 PM
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33. Well.....uh......................no not actually
We .uh.....made it 11 days.....and then..........uh......

How are you doing?
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catpower2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:05 PM
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37. 33 days today!
I'm going to post a thread about this with a special message for you tomorrow, so look for it. You really helped me out.

Cat
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:57 AM
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16. What he said.
1. I sit on the 26th floor with a Southern Exposure. I could turn all the lights off and it would still be bright as hell in here. Well, most days anyway.

2. Nobody knows what I do at work. I mean, they know my job title, but they don't know what I do.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:05 PM
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18. Oh God help all of us if they ever did
I mean, they know my job title, but they don't know what I do.

Too funny.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:32 AM
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3. Well I live in a cube
and I always wondered about the fiscal division


Bawhahahahahahahahahahahahah


DDQM
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:35 AM
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5. B***h do you want to get paid on Friday?
'cause I can still reak all kinds of havoc in the old system.

Actually I have some questions about the financial divison my own self.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:38 AM
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6. Answers from a DU office worker
2. 2.Do you have people in your office/company who no one is really sure what it is they do?

That would be the CEO and any number of executives...my supervisor seems to do a lot of delegating and little actual work...

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:38 AM
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7. Florescent lighting
is too bright for me. I've actually gotten headaches in some workplaces. If I can't work by lamp, I will often turn the F. lights to 1/2 on.
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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:42 AM
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8. Office worker here.
1. I have no control over the office lighting (flourescent). I would prefer to have only the natural light coming from the floor-to-ceiling window behind my workstation, but 'tis not to be.

2. I have worked in areas where I wondered what some people do. But where I'm at now, no, everyone has a clearly defined job. The last couple of "downsizings" took care of the questionables, I guess.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:43 AM
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9. "no one is really sure what it is they do"
"kinda like that" story:

Had to drive into the airport on a day off to take care of some paperwork concerning an incident on my last flight. Forgot to bring my ID badge. This was before the days of such stringent security, but you still needed a badge to get out on the ramp. I could get into the offices OK, but had to visit one building out on the ramp. It was an hour's drive back home to get my badge. Damn.

I took an empty clipboard from a rack by the door and grabbed a piece of official looking paper from the waste basket. Walked right out on the ramp with my clipboard in hand, looking around and making marks on the paper. No body said boo.
hee
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:46 AM
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13. Ah the old "act like you know what you are doing" trick
or "act like you are supposed to be there" trick

Very good and luckily that is much harder to do these days, hopefully.
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curlyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:44 AM
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10. yes and not anymore
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 11:46 AM by acaudill
Several programmers who prefer to work under twilight conditions. Same programmers are miffed because the fire marshall says it's a fire hazard to unscrew or remove the fluorescent bulbs from a live fixture.

HR director works in the dark. Pun intended.

Had several people with mystery functions........July 1 layoff took care of that question.

I am fortunate to work in a window cube.

And HEY! I work in finance. Beware the finance trolls.........BWAHAHAHAHA!
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:45 AM
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11. A constant battle between CAD users and facilities
The facilities guys come through and replace all the dead lights and as soon as they leave the area the CAD guys jump up on their desks and pull the light tubes out of their sockets. Flourescent lights play havoc on computer users eyes. Its the frequency they strobe at. It can sometimes interact with the frequency of the screen in bad ways. Not enough to be conscious of but enough to give you a wicked headache.

A compromise that has shown up on the cube farm are tents that CAD users can put up over their cubes. Basically large tent like canvas structures that block the flourescent lighting for just the user.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:49 AM
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14. Two more questions
What are "CAD guys"?
and

These tents you speak of (I am laughing my a** off right now visualizing this) are they real? Management doesn't have problem with a hermit like workforce?

"cube farm" too freakin' funny.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. See my post above
about FL and headaches. I've never been able to set all the light switches to "on".

CAD = Computer Assisted Design
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:02 PM
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17. Computer Aided Drafting
usually involves some really high-resolution monitors so that precision and detail can be easily distinguished.

And no, they're not kidding about the tents. I don't know where Az works, but my brother is employed as an engineer and the CAD folks do the same thing in their offices.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:46 AM
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12. Management adjusts the A/C thermostat too high.
And all the fluorescent light fixtures generate heat. Ergo: less light / cooler ambient temperature.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:05 PM
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19. answers
1) Yes
2) Yes, and they are living my dream
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:23 PM
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20. Ya gotta have a dream
:bounce:
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:28 PM
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21. I have worked by candlelight, and no one is sure what I do.
No, really.

I work from home, and it's pretty much understood that as long as my job gets done, no one really cares when I work. So I've been known to log in and work at night with a candle or three lit in my study.

Okay, normally my study windows are open to let in the bright daylight, and I have a couple of desk lamps around me too, just to keep me from dozing off.

And yeah, even though I've been working for this company almost the longest, no one is really sure what I do. I do my best to keep it that way. :+
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 02:43 PM
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29. So what do
you do Zenlefty? More importantly, how can I get a similar gig? ;-)
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 04:12 PM
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34. Here's what we did...
A few years ago, I was contacted by some big shots starting their own company. It's a title and escrow company, specializing in commercial property only. Most companies of this nature are very paper-intensive, and require a lot of office space for people to store their big files and spread stacks of random paper everywhere. Big expenses are office space and storage space for all this paper.

We sat down (in a bar, actually) and decided there was a better way. A lot of this work can now be done entirely on the computer. Instead of paper documents, we look at images right on the screen. Everything is on the computer, backed up and doubly redundant, and is accessible from anywhere. For about two years we developed the process of making the entire thing paperless. Then, I started working from home. Haven't looked back.

No more commute, which means I'm not polluting the environment with my drive to work, nor am I wasting my life behind the wheel of a car. No more reams of paper for my files, which saves us money and saves a few trees. We don't pay a lot of money in rent. Our customers are happy because we can do anything by Email, and quickly.

Anyway, that's what I do, and I do it all from home. And every time I look out at the highway during rush hour, I wish every company in town could do the same. :)
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 02:58 PM
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32. Can you hire me?
I'm not sure *exactly* what I do either.... so we're probably best suited together.

Hawkeye-X
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:34 PM
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22. Yes, we have all the overhead lights turned off
I work with three other people in my department. We all use computers all day and the bright glare from the overhead lights would bother our eyes. So we now use dimmed lamps. Another department took our lead and did the same.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:35 PM
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23. Yes and Yes
I hate bright lights and when I worked nightshift I preferred to turn down the lights. But I don't have that option on dayshift (I'm a cube dweller).

And everyday I find someone who I have no clue what the hell they are here for. Heck I'll wake up in the morning with that feeling!!
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:40 PM
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25. I do that
1. Fluorscent lights give me migraines from all the flickering. I had the electricians disable all mine and I work by halogen.

2. They just figured out that the "works well without supervision" in my last performance evaluation is well deserved. They checked the org chart and determined that nobody was supervising me.

In way of a wild synchronistic event, somebody just dropped by my desk to discuss this and informed me that someone, eventually, will talk to me about this. I'm not holding my breath.

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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:40 PM
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26. I've got a question for you Underpants.
Why won't they let us, after we have all our work done, take down the cubes and build a fort?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:45 PM
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27. Answers, I got answers....
For Nr. 1.
I have 2 guys who work in dim offices here.

Nr. 2.
Yes, There's this one fellow I have no idea what he does, but he's always scurrying someplace with his toolbox. And there's our former Director, who has no function since the re-org, but it seem they're gonna let him get his 50 years in anyway....
But to be fair, I've had the same said about me.("What's HE do?")
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 02:40 PM
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28. I am
the person nobody is sure what they do.
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zekeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 02:50 PM
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30. me too
and I like it like that.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 02:52 PM
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31. lights are too bright
in my office, I had the maintenance guy remove a set of floresent lights that sit right over my head

as far as question #2: no one knows what anyone else is doing...
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 04:58 PM
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35. Great "nobody knows what he does" story
A number of years ago a good friend of mine was hired by Cisco Systems on an open-ended contract because the department that needed him hadn't adequately scoped the project and didn't know how long the job would take (he's a Peoplesoft consultant and a C++/Java programmer). He finished the original project in about six months, but the manager overseeing him requested that he stay on for a few weeks...he was so good at his job that the manager wanted to find something else for him to do until they could permanently get him on staff. Three days later that manager was fired, and on his way out told my friend "Just find something to keep busy with until the new manager can find you a permanent project. I left a letter of recommendation on my desk." And so my friend did that.

For two years.

Making $62 an hour.

The fired manager assumed that Cisco would replace him with someone else, but instead they turned the IT staff in that department over to a manager in another department. The new manager never got the letter of recommendation, and didn't know that this guy was a consultant. He finally got canned when Cisco started shedding employees and did a contractor audit...discovering their gaffe in the process. The auditor and new manager walked into his office one day and asked "Who are you?" To which he replied that he was "a contractor waiting for a new project, as instructed." When the new manager discovered that he'd been waiting for a new project for two years, he was quickly "released from his duties". The auditor made all kinds of noise about him being a thief and how he'd be liable for the "unauthorized" pay, but quickly shut up when my friend pointed out that he'd simply done what he was asked, and that it wasn't his fault that Cisco doesn't know who's working in their buildings. In the end, he actually managed to get a decent letter of recommendation out of them.

Oh, and I shut off the lights in my office every day. I prefer to work by the daylight outside or via my incandescent lamp. Flourescent lights give me a headache.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:56 AM
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39. I had a similiar (way less money) in the Army
I was "short" (soon to leave) os they sent me to work in the post office for the holiday season. Well in January the mailroon thougth I was back at my unit and my unit thought I was still at the mailroom. With a few interruptions my last 3 months in Germany were like a vacation.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:00 PM
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36. I only do that in the middle of the night
we have that "energy saver" thing where you turn the lights on but they keep going off after a while.
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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:12 PM
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38. I AM that person
1. I've got the F lights off in my office currently lit by a small halogen lamp and "magic hour" light from the floor to ceiling windows.

2. No one really knows what I do either. I just make sure what needs getting done is taken care of and mostly done in the background so that I can maintain the illusion. :evilgrin:
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