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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:37 PM
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DU Men, How much older would you/ could you go when.....
dating an older woman?
sleeping with an older woman?
having a relationship with an older woman?
If possible, I'd like to hear if the range is different for any of the above questions....
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:39 PM
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1. Hey, what about gay men DUers? (nt)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:47 PM
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9. okay, you too... you guys do the agism thing just as well as
straight men do!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:49 PM
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13. I have been with someone who was 43
I am 26 and the youngest was 21

I don't really think age is that big of a deal. MY bf is 37.

I think it only matters if two people are in different stages of their life.

Sometimes the age difference is not about age but about life experience and maturity.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:39 PM
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2. well, when I was in my 20's, women up through their 40's looked great
...to me. Now that I'm in my 40's, I'm actually getting to date some of those 40ish women!

I guess I'll keep readjusting the parameters as I move through life's seasons!
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:40 PM
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3. I'm a 40+ man
I like older women. Possibly coz I'm an old git but I've liked older women since I was in my late 20's. Explaining why would break the forum rules though.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:48 PM
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11. oh but now i really want to know...
i'm sure you can think of a creative inoffensive way to explain further.
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:02 PM
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25. ummm, here goes
most men I know rave on about teen babes. One, I don't like babes. Two, I don't find younger women attractive.

Psychologists would articulate my preferences as a mother complex but that is not a proper explanation at all. I'm going to stick my neck out here. Attraction is a cerebral thing. Older women can articulate their thoughts in a way younger women cannot and that makes them attractive. At least very few younger women can articulate properly.

Physical attraction is presumed to be everything but it's not. I know loads of older women who are "nae bonny" but who are damned "attractive". Babes are for grunts. The attraction for me is in the woman. I know a lot of women who wouldn't get a second glance in a bar but who just light my fire.

Other than that I'm lost for words. But language is the inarticulate speech of the heart. (with apologies to Van Morrison)
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:09 PM
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30. McKenzie...you're nae inarticulate :)
Your post spoke Volumes!

If only there were more men like you out there. :)
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:58 PM
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46. I second that opinion!
:-)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:32 PM
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38. thanks, you explained yourself rather well, and it sort of seems like this
is kind of what's going on... lots of really good chat and i think that's what winding him up more than anything. which works for me, too. i could see a lot of women his age not getting it, because he does have a briliant sense of humour.
i think you might have something there, thank you!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:13 PM
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33. McKenzie, I like you
:D
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:41 PM
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4. doesnt matter nut to be a bit arbitrary 23 and a half !!
but I would go older if it was love! Id do anything for love... and I would do that!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:45 PM
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8. You say "I would do that" like
it's a bad thing. LOL! Older is smarter, sexier, independent, been around the block, ya know what I'm sayin'?
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:49 PM
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14. no I say I would do that as in do that ass! or do that love!!
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 07:50 PM by frictionlessO
Thats all I meant... I dont care how old really, love is not to be wasted.!!

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:41 PM
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5. heh being 17, I'd say a few years
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:50 PM
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15. the field is gonna bust open soon for you, John!! Next birthday and it's
open season on the Kleebster!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:55 PM
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19. I hope so
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:43 PM
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6. As a gay man, I'm not exactly the source you're looking for, but....
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 07:44 PM by Rowdyboy
I had a torrid little affair with a man twice my age when I was in my late 20's...Neither of us expected anything to come of it, and nothing did except for "friends with privildges".

He had a fabulous body and the stamina of a MUCH younger man.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:57 PM
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22. i could go for the FWP thing about now... he just seems a little too
smitten and i don't want to screw with his head.. but hey, they usually don't run screaming from the room when you explain about the no strings thing, so....
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:45 PM
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7. That's very subjective
No matter what rule I listed I'm sure someone could come along that might make me reconsider. I've never dated a woman older than me by more than a few months, so the question is totally theoretical for me.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:47 PM
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10. As a general rule...+/- 7 years
But, I allow for individuals outside that range if needed. It's not a hard and fast rule.

But, I like people around my own age - we seem to have so many more shared experiences.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:48 PM
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12. Isn't anybody going to wonder why you are asking? c'mon, spill it!
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:51 PM
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17. it's pretty obvious ain't it !!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:21 PM
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36. Yes, but salacious detail is lacking!
How old are you, how old is the gentleman.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:35 PM
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39. he is just 30 and i am ..........
not telling! but i think hwe has me pegged as about 35- 36 .. he was doing a little bit of those questions that might give you a clue.
okay, i'm 40 and a little freaked about it. people make such a big f'ing deal of it!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:39 PM
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41. Pshaw. That's not too much. You could have lied, made a better story
ten years at those ages is too boring to make a good story. Come back when you want to date a 22-year old.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:00 PM
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42. you want a good story? well, okay just this summer i ....
came so damned close to sleeping with a 25 year old. in fact, my friends actually busted in and found the light switch that we eh hem, somehow couldn't! darn them!
boy was i busted, because the young thing was not only 17 years younger (yes, i'm actually 42, okay?) but he's a friend of mine's son. ooops. and the dad, was actually expecting another kid, so he has a baby sister 25 years younger now.
my friends that busted in ( am arried couple, more or less my age was funny- the wife was like- sorry to bust up your thing and the husband (a very close friend) was a bit disturbed, he had no idea i could be so slutty!
you see, that wasn't about a date or relationship, it was about sex, and so i really didn't have to poll anybody to know what i'd do!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:01 PM
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43. MUCH better. I think we need a new DU Group! nt
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:13 PM
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44. why thank you...what would be the new group?
people who sleep with their friend's offspring ,,, i shudder! the dad is a guy who happens to think i'm pretty hot and his son is is a bit of a mimbo, so i'm not certain how he would react, he might not care at all. i've wondered about that, because he has no idea that was going on at his party.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:35 PM
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108. "Mrs. Robinson's"
Or what was that movie with Diane Lane? Same theme, yet happier.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:59 PM
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109. Walking on the Moon? or Unfaithful? Yeah, she's a role model for
us all. Mrs Robinson was a whack job though. Diane Lane is cool, she gets away with a lot of shit in her movies, and those men just take her back. Gotta love seeing the shoe on the other foot once in a while!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:50 PM
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16. 2 years, 20 years and -3 years, respectively
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:54 PM
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18. ouch, you must be hard up if the sex thing is such a major
aberration in your behaviour! i hate to tell you this, but you shouldn't sleep with people you're not attracted to. Too much of that makes a guy a lousy lover.
thanks for being honest, if that's what that was! LOL!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:58 PM
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23. The middle number is high because I'm still pretty young
I'm usre that in a few years the middle number will drop lower. I sure as hell don't want to be screwing 60 year olds when I'm 40. If it's just sex, I really don't care if ther person is older, but if I am going to have a life with her then being that old is too old. No use becoming a widower
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:03 PM
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26. but. -3 ?? you'll leave her a widow for 13 years!! nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:49 PM
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68. Better for her to be a widow than for me to be a widower
Being a widow is normal in our society being a widower just sucks. Part of establishing a marriage is making sure that someone will be there to bury you.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:40 PM
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74. So only women are allowed to die old and alone?
WTF?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:42 PM
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75. Anyone is allowed to die old and alone.
I've seen more women adjust well to being a widow than I've seen men adjust to being a widower.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:02 PM
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79. Just sounds to me like
you can't imagine someone not taking care of your every need when you're old and dying, but not overly caring if your wife/widow has someone taking care of her when she's old and dying. Maybe you've "seen more women adjust well to being a widow" because generally, women outlive their husbands, and because they've probably had to deal with other hardships in their lives. It just sounds very inconsiderate of you to expect to have someone to comfort you as you die, but assume that women don't need/want such luxury, purely based on gender.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:15 PM
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80. Would it be better for me to shoot her from my deathbed?
Someone is going to die first, why go out of my way to make sure it isn't me? The worst possibility would be both of us being old and infirm at the same time, thus finding a wife 12 years older is a recipe for bad things. A wife that is younger or the same age will probably still be strong when I kick off. She'll be a widow, but her children would probably watch out for her. Why do you find it necessary to be so judgemental?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:27 PM
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84. I only took issue with one fact
That you actually give a rat's ass about which of you dies first. Yeah, one or the other of you is going to be a widow/widower. I don't see why you have this bizarre insistence that she be the one to survive. I really don't care if I precede my husband in death or the other way around, but I certainly don't want a potential partner avoiding me because he is afraid of me dying before him. I just think that's a bit silly.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:43 PM
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86. If I wanted to be an old man taking care of myself, I'd stay single and...
use the money that I'd save by not having a family to set up a cushy old-folks home arrangement.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:20 PM
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93. But why do that when you got wimmin to do it for you? n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:33 PM
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94. Hey, you live in Urbana too!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:44 PM
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95. Do you?
Someone else today on DU said they recognized me from campus... small world.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:44 PM
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96. Yup
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:35 PM
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85. I dont know think some of the things you just said were fairly
judgemental... Like how is having an older wife by 12 years a recipe for bad things? You gave one reason yet you indicate a pluarlity. Dont know if you saw my post on this subject in the reverse thread on this subject, but my wife is twenty years older than me. If she should happen to go on before me. Ill take care of her with honor dignity and love just like she would me. I dont know if you feel these things are apllicable to everyone or just you, butI can gaurantee your theory of women being able to handle a spouse death better than a man is complete and utter bullshit in regards to anyone but yourself.

other than that I usually enjoy your posts so...:P
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:47 PM
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89. Different strokes for different folks
Having a wife 12 years older than me would make me nervous. I'd be worried that as her health failed at around 84 that my own would be failing at 72 and I'd be unable to provide the proper standard of care for her.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:54 PM
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98. Well that does put a different spin on things when you put it that way
So if I misinterpreted you I apologize... that said I certainly hope someone is willing to care of me if/when I get old... I have worked at a nursing home, and I refuse to go to one, for any reason. Bleak, depressing, sad places, those.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:29 PM
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107. that's becasue he's saying the opposite of what he said
earlier..read the posts... . that part of being married is making sure they are around to take care of you, and not vice versa!
what a bunch of crap! LOL!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #107
111. Hey, I'm just tryin' to be nice
Yeah, I just enjoy giving the benefit of the doubt.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:44 AM
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115.  Oh, you're joking LOL!! Funny, posing as a selfish sexist pos w/
obsessions regarding pedophilia and vaginas with teeth. I get it now!
I knew you could not be f'ing serious with this stone age drivel!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:52 AM
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116. What the hell are you talking about?
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 01:53 AM by JVS
Heyhey made a crack about "something priests tell 13 year old boys" and I made the obligatory follow up. How is that an obsession with pedephilia?

As far as you advice goes; it does rank down there with the vagina dentata legend and the "it won't be special if you don't save it until marriage" lie. I have never in my life encountered a human being who was told by a lover "You've been having sex with people you don't like, I can tell because you're doing an awful job" In fact the general consensus out there is that practice makes perfect.

I demand an apology for your defamation of my character!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:01 PM
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70. "you shouldn't sleep with people you're not attracted to"
Your advice sounds about as credible as the warning that vaginas have razor-sharp teeth.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:17 AM
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112. That sounds like something a priest tells 13 year old boys
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:28 AM
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114. Insert tired paedophile priest joke here
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 12:31 AM by JVS
on edit: because there are lot's of things that some people tell 13 year old boys
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:54 AM
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117. You seem to be looking for an opportunity to bust my chops
Why do you ask questions then get upset about the answer?
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buczak Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:55 PM
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20. one situition i was in.
>dating an older woman?

yes, 32 vs 44

>sleeping with an older woman?

yes, 32 vs 44

>having a relationship with an older woman?

yes, short term relationship committed.

> If possible, I'd like to hear if the range is different for any of
> the above questions....

We broke up because we were at different places in our lives.
I wanted to settle down have a family, she wasn't interested in that.

In my experience, the 30's are a awkward age to be dating someone
your own age. Women in the 40's are newly divorce and/or very
interesting and established, whereas the younger women i would date
in their late 20's are coming into their own. Most of the women at
my age were either married or wierd.

I'm sure it's true the other dating modes FM/MM/FF.

ymmv


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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:56 PM
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21. currently dating/sleeping with a woman 4 1/2 years my elder
she's 30, i'm 25. everything's going well so far (we've been dating for almost 2 months), and, since there are no sex threads, let me just say that the s** is INCREDIBLE :D
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:00 PM
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24. sex is where we have the advantage you know.....
plus we are not as dumb as we used to be either. which could be a plus or minus depending on the guy!
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:04 PM
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27. don't know that i'd agree with your statement
in theory; yes, but i've never found it to be that way in practice;)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:23 PM
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37. but your testing is random, the variation in ability is too widespread
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 08:36 PM by bettyellen
for any real comparison between the age groups. what is true, however is most women- unless they have spent years with a really lousy lover who turned them off- are better than they used to be. most of us are more confident, relaxed and understand what works for us and our parteners much better than we did as when we were newer to it all.
that said, your research would have to include checking in on the same woman at 5 year intervals! good luck and report back to us!
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:06 PM
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28. I'm 20
-2 or +3

I'll make exception in rare cases, and it's only -2 because 17 yr old girls tend to be immature/jailbait
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:09 PM
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29. I'm 33 and wouldn't limit myself
if a great gal came along. Age is just a number. I dated a 36 year old woman when I was 26. Wow. What they say is true.
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leans2left Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:10 PM
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31. Dated older woman for 12 yrs.
When I was 24 I started dating a woman who was 35. We dated for 12 yrs. Now I am 39 dating a 37 yr old woman, go figure.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:16 PM
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34. so you like women to be 36 ish!! Cool!
I seem to date a lot of 30-34 yar olds. no matter what my age!
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:13 PM
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32. I thirty-two
and i tend to naturally fall for older women...tho I'd probably cut it of a thirty nine...I might still like to have children someday...
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:17 PM
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35. I sleep with anything that's between 18 and 45
Don't tell my mother I talk like that
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:36 PM
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40. MAMA HEY HEY ! MAMA HEY HEY!! Is your appletalk on loud? I hope not! nt
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:57 PM
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99. Don't those teddy bears look a bit ratty by that age?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:36 PM
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45. kick, cause i want to hear from the late night crowd......
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:00 AM
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47. well
i'm 19 and i had a "relationship" with a 28 year old for a few weeks over the summer...but that's my biggest age gap

current interest is just a few months younger than I
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:08 AM
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48.  hey my young guy is a mark too!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:23 AM
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49. heh
what's in a name?

must be a lot...
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:29 AM
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50. you know, i could take it as a sign.. if i was so inclined! nt
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:31 AM
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52. ahh
but alas, my uh...lass, you live in the great NYC, while I am here in Mil-wauk-ee
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:30 AM
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51. Right now 25
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:32 AM
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53. you'd date a woma 25 years older? are you a teenager ...
or just really really not caring about the age thing?
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:34 AM
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55. LOL
I'm 18, I meant that I couldn't see myself with anyone over 25. :)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:42 AM
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56. okay, that's clearer now, there was no way for me to figure that out......
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:33 AM
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54. Dating?
about 23 or 24.

Sleeping?

Same age--I'm only 19.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:48 AM
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57. Doesn't matter to me....
My first time was a 36 year old woman; yowza!



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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:46 PM
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87. How old were you?
I'm 36, and in the words of Monica Geller, "18 is just, icky."
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:35 PM
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92. 18...
She was beautiful, smart, and very patient. I know it sounds like a Penthouse Forum letter.....
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:27 AM
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58. I'm 23 years old
And, even from my teenaged years, I have been always attracted to women who are significantly older than I am. I find older women immensely attractive in a way that I generally don’t in terms of women who are either in my age group or younger. I think this is partially the reason why I haven’t had a girlfriend yet. I often joke with my parents that they should have had me 20 years earlier because I’m so profoundly attracted to women of that generation.

I'm not sure precisely why this is. I think it's because I've always found it easier to communicate and identify with women of that age group -they tend to be so intelligent, so mature and so sexy. And when I say sexy, it's in their personalities as well as their looks. This can apply to even women who are 10, 20 or even thirty years older than me.

Friends have often pointed out to me that you have to think of long-term issues in a relationship with a much older woman -such as your different needs at different stages of life, the fact that she'll be 80 when you are 60 and so on and I think that's an important factor to consider when hooking up with someone significantly older or younger than you. But nevertheless I do not think that this should be an obstacle to carrying on a relationship with someone significantly older or younger than you and it is something that I would be prepared to incorporate in order to have a relationship with someone much older.

In direct answer to your question
dating an older woman?
I would probably have to draw the line at someone older than Bill Clinton


sleeping with an older woman?
I would not sleep with an older woman or a younger woman or a woman the same age I was unless I was in a relationship with that woman so...

having a relationship with an older woman?
This would be the same answer to dating an older woman. But again it largely depends on the circumstances and the person

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:39 AM
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59. I am 28. My girlfriend is 6 years older.
I don't think I'd want much more of a gap.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:40 AM
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60. I'm 42. My girlfriend is 16.
Just about right. ;)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:50 PM
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69. That's the way to do it!
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BTFSTL Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:41 AM
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61. I briefly dated/slept with someone...
...who was 46 and I was 42.

We really enjoyed each other's company and the bedroom stuff was great. But we broke up after three weeks because I didn't have much money and she'd been through two marriages where she wasn't treated that great. She wanted me to pay for everything.

Last I heard she was living with another guy and they had been talking of marriage. Whether they did or not, I have no idea. Still hurts thinking about it though.
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chuckrocks Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:49 AM
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62. she was 48
i was 25. i met her at work, she was sitting in for the receptionist. i asked her if she liked hockey, she said her ex was a LA King defesiveman. he was in canada now (whew). i asked if she liked good beer, she loves it. so i asked her to a game and we went out to the brewery after. it wasn't until 3 dates later that we asked our ages. imagine her suprise, she had a son that was 28! she helped me find and paint my new apartment away from my roomates st bernards. she loved my passion for big old cars, herman miller furniture, and sinatra. i loved her life. she was an artist, and a good one. we would drive out to the country for dinner and get high on the way. make up accents for ordering at the restaraunt. *sigh*
it's corny to write this, i haven't thought of her in a while. having been married 3 years with a kid. when i went back to michigan she was at my favorite pub. i happened to be alone and so was she. we talked until the lights came on, laughing loudly. we kissed goodby in the parking lot. that was it.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:38 AM
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64. that is the best story chuck, you do rock....thanks for that! nt
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:49 AM
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63. Okay
First, my age: 26

Date? 36-39

Sleep with? Depends; up to 46, if she looks like Madonna. Otherwise, 40

Relationship? 35 MAX. I don't think I could keep up with a woman much older. I have my own limitations to take into considerations, after all.

As far as attractiveness goes, I find Madonna (40s) and Kylie Minogue (30s) way more attracitve than their twenty-something counter-parts (who shall remain nameless). It's purely sexual, of course.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:57 AM
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65. well, the age difference is getting smaller all the time
because all the old broads are dying.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:24 PM
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82. Well aren't you just a cup
of fucking sunshine - LOL.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:34 PM
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104. glad to brighten your day!
:-)
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:10 AM
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66. Well I'm happily married
but I know of several women in their 50's that are just plain hot!!!! And I am in my late 30's.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:19 AM
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67. If the woman was funny and intelegent and a radical leftist
my cut off age would be about 140 years old --- okay that was sick say 130
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:02 PM
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71. interesting thread
nice to know everyone isn't totally youth obsessed.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:25 PM
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72. oooooooooh. I like older women (I'm 22... so you can understand why).
1. Ten years.
2. Twenty years. I won't date this extra group for social stigma reasons (I'm in a solidly red area. They're not afraid to shout across the grocery store.) and the fact they thay're very likely to have kids. I will not date a MILF.
3. How is this different from what's implied in the first question?
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chuckrocks Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:27 PM
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73. andy rooney gets it right this time
Here is a piece written by Andy Rooney - CBS 60 Minutes. The last line says it all!

As I grow in age, I value women who are over 30 most of all. Here are just a few reasons why:

A woman over 30 will never wake you in the middle of the night to ask, "What are you thinking?" She doesn't care what you think.

If a woman over 30 doesn't want to watch the game, she doesn't sit around whining about it. She does something she wants to do. And, it's usually something more interesting.

A woman over 30 knows herself well enough to be assured in who she is, what she is, what she wants and from whom. Few women past the age of 30 give a damn what you might think about her or what she's doing.

Women over 30 are dignified. They seldom have a screaming match with you at the opera or in the middle of an expensive restaurant. ....Of course, if you deserve it, they won't hesitate to shoot you, if they think they can get away with it......

A woman over 30 has the self-assurance to introduce you to her women friends. A younger woman with a man will often ignore even her best friend because she doesn't trust the guy with other women. Women over 30 couldn't care less if you're attracted to her friends because she knows her friends won't betray her.

Women get psychic as they age. You never have to confess your sins to a woman over 30. They always know.

A woman over 30 looks good wearing bright red lipstick. This is not true of younger women or drag queens.

Once you get past a wrinkle or two, a woman over 30 is far sexier than her younger counterpart. Older women are forthright and honest. They'll tell you right off if you are a jerk if you are acting like one! You don't ever have to wonder where you stand with her.

Yes, we praise women over 30 for a multitude of reasons. Unfortunately, it's not reciprocal. For every stunning, smart, well-coifed hot woman of 30+, there is a bald, paunchy relic in yellow pants making a fool of himself with some 22-year-old waitress. Ladies, I apologize.

For all those men who say, "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free". Here's an update for you. Nowadays 80% of women are against marriage, why?

Because women realize it's not worth buying an entire pig, just to get a little sausage...
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:54 PM
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76. wow, chuck thanks... he does havesome good points!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:56 PM
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77. Here's the formula for determining whether a woman is too young
for a man. It's slightly off topic but here's the formula.
Take half the mans age and add seven years.
Examples:
If the man's age is 20 then 10 + 7 = 17 years would be as young as you should go.
If the mans age is 52 then 26 + 7 = 33 any younger is too young.

I don't know if there is a formula for a woman being too old.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:57 PM
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78. About 9 to 20 years...
I've met some 70-something women I thought were pretty attractive.
When I was in my early 20's, it was 30-somethings. In my 30's, I had a 46 y-o girlfriend. in my 40's, I've settled down with a young little thing only 9 years older than me...
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TyeDye75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:26 PM
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83. 18-48, a thirty yearr range.
Im 18 myself. Ive had brief encounters with older women one 32 and one 41, but I dont know how id react to a long term relationship.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:20 PM
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91. You DAWG!
:evilgrin:
I had a brief, wild thing with a 38-y-o when I was 21...

After being with an older woman, how do you feel about younger ones? After being with a woman in her 30's, Teeny-Boppers lost ALL their attraction for me...Not that they ever had any in the first place...
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:21 PM
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81. Well, as a DU single woman
I'm almost 48 and I've never dated a guy over 50. My last relationship was with a guy who is now 35. We got along great but he wanted to have children and I was out of the baby making business age wise. We're still friends, even though he's a Republican (!), and he ended up marrying a gal his age. They started working on a baby and ironically, he ended up being sterile. Oh well ....

I've dated guys even younger. I figure it's their call. If it doesn't bother them, then it doesn't bother me. I do clear up the baby issue if things seem to be getting serious though. I have NO interest in going through a high tech pregnancy. I'd be happy to be a step mom or foster mom or adopt though.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:47 PM
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88. When I was 25 I was seeing someone who was 35
She was very beautiful, but it wasn't meant to be.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:11 PM
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90. I honestly have no idea.
I always thought that I was more the "younger women" type. Especially for relationships. Shallowness really; I didn't want her getting all grey and wrinkly on me.

Then I fell in love with an older woman. No need to run the numbers, I'll just say she's less than 10 years older. But not much less than that. Now, my assumptions about all that have flown right out the window. Still don't know that I'd go much older (my girlfriend definitely looks younger than she is, after all ;)), but I know now that I'm perfectly happy dating/sleeping with/having a relationship with a woman who is a few years older than I'd ever assumed I would be willing to go.

We're continually faced with circumstances that challenge our views about matters of the heart. I'm beyond glad that I met this challenge. :)



And besides -- if she gets all grey and wrinkly, I'll just take a younger mistress. :evilgrin:
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Justin54B20L Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:47 PM
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97. I'm 24 and I usually have my range in the +/- 5 year mark.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:11 PM
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100. I can go for hours
oh, wrong question :7
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:18 PM
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101. 15 years
I'm 30, and I regularly find women attractive up to about 45 or so (that number has been climbing as I age).
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:20 PM
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102. My wife is 11 years older than I am.
:hi:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:26 PM
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103. It just depends on the person.
I don't think anyone should be ruled out merely because of age. As a 45 year old gay man, I know a 70 year old man I find sexually attractive, who's also funny and highly intelligent. If I weren't already married...
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NamVetsWeeLass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:50 PM
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105. Well, I am not a DU man, But...
Oldest Longer term Relationship for me was with someone that was 14 years my Senior. He turned out to be a controlling, Dominating, abusive asshole, but still did justice to a pair of Levis. He had a Sam Elliot kind of thing going on, which I just loved, but he turned out being so mean that he went from being my Older Sam Elliot to a fucking troll. I had a FWP that was 22 years older than me when I was in my twenties. He was an interesting soul, had a decent body and could ummmmm... control it well. (Without trying to get locked or tombstoned.) I have dated Younger guys, and found that with the exception of maybe one they were mostly hotheaded idiots. I am married to a guy that is my age now. He's either too immature, or clueless...Not sure really, there. He May be both. Generally speaking, I have usually went 3-7 years older than me.
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:20 PM
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106. Relationships/Dating: up to about 15 yrs; Sleeping: about 25 yrs.
And my age is 25. However, I would probably feel most comfortable dating within about a +7/-6 year age range. That "most comfortable" age range has increased since I was younger, and the plus range will certainly increase as I get older, but the minus range will probably grow much slower.

One important caveat would be that I would never have a relationship with a woman who had children around 12 years or older, because I can imagine how uncomfortable I would be in her older children's shoes. (Not having a relationship or sleeping with a woman who is already in one should go without saying, of course--just don't want the above caveat to imply anything else.)
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Shadowen Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:10 PM
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110. Well, I'm in lust with Cate Blanchett.
She's two TDs older than me. I think I could go to that age, comfortably.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:27 AM
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113. Middle age DU FEMALE!
Age doesn't matter except in relation to the time in your life. Mostly kids. If a man is more than 10 years younger and still wants kids that may be impossible for the female.At almost 55 I wouldn't date a man (NOW) that is more than 5 years younger and he must already have GROWN kids. It appears i am unusual. I can't imagine life with out passionate hot sex. It concerns me than many 55 year old men don't care anymore.
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