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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:58 AM
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PLEASE don't Legalize Cellphones at 30,000 feet
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 11:59 AM by Jack_Dawson
That was my last bastion of sanity.

Peace.
Quiet.
Tranquility.

Now I have to listen to a bunch of self-important fuckwit blowhards participating in teleconferences while I'm trying to watch Shrek 2 or read a book? Some ideas fall under VERY BAD.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/15/tech/main661360.shtml

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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:59 AM
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1. I agree! that's the FIRST thing I thought of
yuck
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:00 PM
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2. I don't like when I'm in a confined space
and I hear half of someone else's phone conversation. I try to ignore it, I really do, but I find myself wondering what the other person is saying.

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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:03 PM
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3. A compromise:
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 12:04 PM by brainshrub
Cell phones will be permitted, but in return passengers are allowed to snatch phones from annoying people and shove them down one of the toilets.
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:04 PM
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Might as well - I'm sitting in front of a screaming kid for 7 hours anyway

Or at least, I usually am.

(Fully expecting to be flamed extensively for this)
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:05 PM
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5. I did think about screaming kids
I'm usually sitting next to one trying to get her to stop screaming.

But the cell phone is more easily turned off.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:07 PM
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6. nope, i'm with you
if i have to listen to a damn baby screaming, then i should at least be able to talk on my phone in reture :evilgrin: not saying that all kids shouldn't fly; just that maybe, just MAYBE, parents might think not to fly with kids under the age of 2 in a plane unless it's a necessity? :shrug:
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:09 PM
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8. THANK you. I no longer feel alone. n/t
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:09 PM
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9. But the Parents are Oblivious to the Screaming
It's like...can you hear your kid lady?
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:10 PM
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11. i know, it's not the kid's fault
just like it's not a poorly-trained dog's fault if it misbehaves (not equating children to animals; just saying that the kid/child shouldn't be put in that situation in the first place).
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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:31 PM
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16. I know what you mean
Not all kids scream constantly. If the parents don't put up with their shit, then the kid will learn to behave at an early age.
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:04 PM
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4. Delete / Dupe
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 12:05 PM by WritersBlock
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:08 PM
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7. I don't think this is a panic situation, you will not retain a connection
to a cell tower for very long at the speeds of an airplane... if at all.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:13 PM
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12. uhm
they want to put the tower on the plane, guaranteeing the connection for the whole flight; with hefty roaming charges, of course.
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:16 PM
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13. OMG - no shit??! Strike that, panic!
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:10 PM
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10. As the airlines hope to earn a metric shitload of money with it
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:17 PM
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14. Price? n/t
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:22 PM
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15. I paid €120
I guess the same in $. Haven't used them on a plane yet, but they do work great in trains.
I do not think that they'll really work for people speaking :-( (in fact I know that they're pretty ineffective in blocking chatter).
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:34 PM
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17. I'm sure terrorists would like cellphones at $30,000 feet too...
:tinfoilhat:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:41 PM
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19. That's my first concern
If cell phones can be used to detonate explosives and the baggage going into the belly of planes is not being checked 100% - I have to ask "what the hell are they thinking?". Unless MIHOP is what happened and all the terror vigilance is unnecessary bullshit.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:57 PM
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43. But cellphones are allowed on planes anyway.
If someone wanted to blow up a plane with a cellphone, a ban on calling at 30k feet wouldn't stop them.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:40 PM
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18. Oh great!
Just what I wanna hear. I have a cell and the most time I use it is in my car or at home. I rarely use it in public places (except casino's when I'm trying keep an eye on the other half).

On planes? Oh shit! Gruuuurate!

I hope some airlines will adopt an no cell phone policy.
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:47 PM
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20. Oi it would be like the trains in the UK
every f'ing person on their mobile

no one actually having a conversation with the person in the seat next to them.

man oh man

just aidle, nonsense chatter "yes mum, we at the blah blah stop, call you when we get to the next stop"

urghhhh
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:03 PM
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34. ouch
Don't they have non-phoning wagons?
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:48 PM
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21. Who are the people who actually want this?
I was watching a piece on the news last night and everyone they talked to was horrified by the idea. So who is it that is pushing this? Who thinks it's a good idea? Is it solely those who are going to make money off it? Or are there actually travelers who are saying, "Oh, goody"?

Enquiring minds want to know.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:02 PM
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22. It's more of an issue for commuter flights, actually.
Pull up a national coverage map for your cellphone company and you'll notice that there are massive sections of the US that still have no cellphone service, or which still rely on the old analog systems. Most of us never see them because the freeway corridors, towns, and cities that we visit were upgraded long ago to digital service, but most of the US is still pretty backward.

If you had a cellphone ten years ago, think back to the difficulties we all used to have maintaining a clear signal while driving on the ground at 60 miles per hour. Now imagine what it's going to be like trying to maintain a clear signal at 30,000 feet at 550 MPH! And if you're flying over the western deserts, you can forget coverage altogether.

Then there's the problem of modern cellphones...most are capable of digital and analog service, but many models default to Digital Only and few users know how to switch this. These digital service only users will simply lose all signal shortly after takeoff, and will only regain it sporadically during the flight and before landing.
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Richmond27 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:11 PM
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23. cell phone section, non-cell phone section?
Simple solution except on commuter flights. They already do it in restaurants.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:13 PM
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24. Where are these restaurants?
I haven't seen them.
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Richmond27 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:20 PM
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26. NYC
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:21 PM
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27. No wonder
It'll hit here in two years or so.
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Richmond27 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:34 PM
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30. Where?
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:14 PM
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25. I agree - We took my mom out for a nice dinner last night
Expensive place, nice and subdued. We were really enjoying ourselves...

except for the fuckwit next to us who kept blathering into his cell phone.

I swear, he spent 30 minutes on the freaking phone!! We cracked up when he left, because after he got off the phone, he started extolling the many virtues of Bush/Cheney. My mother said, "When I saw how rude he was, I just knew he was a Republican!" :D
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Richmond27 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:32 PM
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28. Ha, don't mean to trump your story, but..
4 months ago I was on a date with a repub and his fucking cell phone rang at least 5 times within an hour. I was at this nice restaurant in Richmond where people were engaged in healthy discussion and it was romantic and quiet. No emergencies, no deaths, he just needed it to feel important. Every time it would ring, he would take it out of his pocket and read to me the name that was calling. Like I gave a shit--like I knew who these people were! After the fifth call, about 15 minutes later when I thought it was all over, I heard this odd vibrating sound that almost sounded like he was pooting, but no, it was his beeper. I have no idea why he had a beeper but that's beside the point. I never went out with him again of course and I hear that he now dates another repub who works for Phillip Morris. Needless to say, I am a cell phone-hater even though I feel the need to own one, but I know when it is appropriate to use one.

Anyway, your mom sounds cool.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:33 PM
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29. You were on a date w/ a repub WHY again?
:shrug:
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Richmond27 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:37 PM
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31. Because he was hot...
and because I'm bi-partisan when it comes to getting laid. Maybe I shouldn't admit that.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:41 PM
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32. LOL...
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 01:41 PM by Jack_Dawson
So you gave it up for Phone Guy?

:shrug:

None of my business. Question will be stricken from the record.
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Richmond27 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:49 PM
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33. haha. no comment.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:17 PM
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36. Amen
There's a time and a place to use a cell phone. A date is certainly not. Sounds like this guy was trying to impress you. Great job he did at that, eh? :eyes:

:hi:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:05 PM
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35. I agree; I have never heard anyone on a cellphone say anything
important but they often talk loudly
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:23 PM
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37. PLEASE Legalize Cellphones at 30,000 feet
I don't want to have to talk to my insane family.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:44 PM
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38. You travel w/ your family?
All the time?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:56 PM
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42. Good point.
I can't remember the last time I did actually, I guess I just wanted to say that. :P
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:45 PM
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39. Sign just inside the front door of my store:
"Please turn the ringer for your cell phone 'off' upon entering. Thank you. ---Management"

I despise the prevalence of cell phones.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:53 PM
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40. Well, since they're illegal over here
Next time you're over in Japan, pick up a cell phone jammer. Nobody within a hundred feet of you will ring, buzz, vibrate or talk. As soon as I can get my hands on one, I'm buying it.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:54 PM
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41. What did people do before there was cell phones?
Think, maybe? Sure does not sound like it to me.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:58 PM
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44. As long as they don't make headphones illegal at the same time
I'll be fine. That's what I do now to tune out the screaming babies.
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