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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:06 PM
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Poll question: Punctuation question.... can you help?
I was having a conversation with a friend about punctuation, specifically about periods always going inside quotation marks. (I have the most exciting conversations, don't I?) Then it moved to ? being inside or outside, depending on where the question was in the sentence, either inside or outside the quote. Anyway, we came up with this hypothetical sentence and didn't know where to put the ? so that is where you come in. Here is the sentence.

Did she just say, "I'm going to the grocery store, do you need anything"

Should it be anything?" or anything"? since it is a question both ways. I know this is dumb, and pointless, but I am curious. So, what's the answer.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:08 PM
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1. correct punctuation is "I'm going to the grocery store, do you need beer?"
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gtp1976 Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:10 PM
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3. if she has to ask
if I need beer she must not know me very well. :-)
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:09 PM
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2. Here's how you'd use #2:
Have you ever seen a post that says "ask me anything"?
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:12 PM
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5. I know how to do it that way
But since the sentence was a question both ways

Did she say "blah blah blah"?

"I'm going to the store, do you need beer?"

we just weren't sure which way was standard.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:12 PM
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4. I believe
That since she was asking a question that was being questioned, it would be inside, like this - "I'm going to the grocery store, do you need anything?"

If she was making a statement, it would be outside - as in

Did she just say, "I need a beer"?

But I'm not totally sure on that...

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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:15 PM
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6. Yes, inside the quotation takes priority.
British publishing does somewhat the opposite, so if you're reading a book published in Lond, expect to find the period outside the terminal quotation mark.

English Prof.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:24 PM
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12. I thought you punctuate both places if needed.
John said, "I'm leaving now.".
No?
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:15 PM
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7. HEY!!!!!!
Is this a ploy? In your other thread regarding your rotten cold, you said something about waiting for someone to play grammar cop and you'd explode. Now you're asking grammar questions..... hmmmmm...... Is there an explosion imminent? :nuke:
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:18 PM
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9. lol.. silly.. no, not a trap
but yes I did say that. I'm curious is all since it came up. Although it doesn't look like anyone else thinks its a problem sentence.
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eoberhauser Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:17 PM
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8. Per Webster
A single question mark will suffice to end a quoted question within a question:

"Didn't he ask, 'What did we do, who preceded you?'" queried Johnson.

Erin
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:19 PM
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10. thank you
just the answer I needed.. and welcome to DU
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eoberhauser Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:22 PM
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11. "Why thank you!" she said.
;)

Erin
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:33 PM
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13. Try a Slightly Different Sentence, Too
The phrases "do you need anything" and "did she just say" are both questions, so while it's a legitimate question (I've wondered this myself), it muddies the waters by combining two questions.

Now, if it were just:

Did she just say, "I'm going to the grocery store"

where would the question mark be then? I would say on the outside, since it's not part of the quotation. But I could be wrong.


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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:36 PM
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14. Also
You need a semi-colon between "I'm going to the grocery store" and "do you need anything." Not a comma.

TlalocW
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