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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:38 AM Original message |
Did everyone else already know Abe Lincoln was gay? |
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dolo amber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. He was having an illicit affair with a woodchuck |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. that's what gay is? |
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JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. We've been wanting to tell you for some time now, but we |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. Abe wore womens underwear to cabinet meetings |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Seriously?! |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I am kidding |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
5. Cute. Now I heard that they were outing Republicans |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. I have always heard |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. I Thought James Buchanan |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. And even that isn't proven |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Hard to imagine him as "gay" |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. Yeah, that's what the Log Cabin monicker is all about . . . |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I personally do not believe Lincoln was gay |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Yeah, I was trying to be even-handed, but I don't buy it either. n/t |
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keischin (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
82. Haven't you seen that music video? nt |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Oh, boy. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:55 AM Original message |
What words did you have in mind? |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:57 AM Original message |
So, let me get this straight. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
37. Well, no, actually |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
30. I can't believe you just said that... |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. I take it you think it unfair to call Mary Todd Lincoln |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. She was mentally ill |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Neurotic fits... it's the other ones that scream PIG |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. By that rule, if some guy is mentally ill . . . |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. No, just rude and unnecessary. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. As long as it's just rude and unecessary, I'm OK |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. If the pigism fits... |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Whew -- tough crowd! n/t |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Hmm, yes, you might find it to be a bit tough around here... |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Actually, I reserve such terms for people like |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Works for me. |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. True story - the very first time I put on NPR ... |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
13. I am NOT convinced |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. who cares? |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. "Defend himself"? |
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hickman1937 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. No there is not |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
75. Yes, Defend Himself! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Defend himself? |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Heh! Beat ya! ;) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Couldn't resist piling on. :) |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Well, I am sure Abe wouldn't want to be thought of as gay |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Why is it a slander? |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Because it is very possibly a lie about him |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. It does not "attack". That is the part of the slander definition that |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Bingo! |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. A lot of people would be upset by this if it were done to them |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. He's long dead. Do you really think he minds? |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. If the person who is being rumored about is upset by the rumors |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. You cannot speak for Abe Lincoln. |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. If they spread rumors I was having an illicit affair with someone I would |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Hee! |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Livin large! |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I know what to get YOU for xmas! |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. try a tube sock, for warmth! |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. That is true. |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. I agree totally |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Do you think the letters are fakes? |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. LOL.... "even though I have no problems with Gays." |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. anything not true that people say about you could be called a slander |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. people are so transparent and they don't even realize it... |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. you missed the point |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. How do you propose to determine the 'true' motives |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. But the fact remains that MOST people might consider it slander |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Because I am not/it would be an untruth |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
48. Bad choice of words |
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Darknyte7 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
85. Humorous observation there... |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Mary Matalin?!? |
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Darknyte7 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
98. My bad... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. So -- are there similar flame wars about how Jesus can't defend himself |
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liontamer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. yes |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
22. I had heard it before |
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sir_captain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
92. Not really |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. all evidence is either circumstantial, physical, or eyewitness |
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sir_captain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. That's not true |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
23. I did not know that... |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I have that book |
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Enraged_Ape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
24. Abe Lincoln had marital problems with Mary Todd |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. "Most guys married any appreciable length of time..." |
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Enraged_Ape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
66. If you haven't at least had some sort of cookware... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
67. Not accounts and innuendo... letters between him and his alleged lover |
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Enraged_Ape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I've seen neither the content nor the bonafides for these letters |
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sir_captain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
93. The letters don't really say anything |
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sundog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
27. Well, law of average... |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
34. i wouldn't be so sure. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Yeah but... |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. That sounds juicy but... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. IS ANYONE GOING TO READ THE FRICKIN ARTICLE BEFORE POSTING? |
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henslee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
40. He had a beard, he liked the theatre. Seems obvious. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
41. What did his wife and sons say on this? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Perhaps the same sorts of things |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
43. This thread is, predictably, getting really ugly. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
53. How could he be "gay" if there wasn't a gay identity then? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Yeahbut |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
72. Good article, redqueen! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
89. Glad you liked it! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
73. WHO CARES!?!??! |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
81. So far, EVERYBODY HAS MISSED the bigger issue.... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Maybe they'll finally quit hanging on LIncoln's coattails |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. That would be great but I predict more of a Kitty Kelly attack instead |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
94. The only "historian" who thinks so |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
96. Oh, for Pete's sake, this again |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Great post. |
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