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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:00 AM
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"long haired bearded hippie types"

Yeah, Pat :D those are such a threat.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:04 AM
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1. i doubt the real jesus looked so whitebread.
that thorny heart thingy on his chest is popular tattoo flash btw.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:07 AM
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3. Of course
I would say he looked something like a modern middle easterner, or he could look like Chris Rock said he did in Dogma, you ever see that one :) but it's funny, all the redentions of Jesus you see in the west are of a guy who looks like a hippie who wore sandals too, if Jesus was alive, I think he would be like hey you wanna get high apostles?, I think he was a cool shit, it's such a shame that people like Robertson are the face of Christianity often, you know, if they made religion like how Ive been learning chemistry filled with sexual inneudo, I think more people would like it :D. I am exeggrating.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:09 AM
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41. How about this?


I'm not a Christian so I don't care either way but one of my kids was doing a project on this at school and we found this. It would seem to be far more likely for a person born where Jesus was supposed to be born. More information here:

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20030414/jesus.html
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goodbody Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:12 AM
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7. the thorny thing is the sacred heart of Jesus
I have always thought it funny when RW'ers talk about bearded hippie- type liberals while pretending to worship Jesus, who could be the ultimate bearded hippie liberal. Jesus was all about helping the poor -- helping people, not just using his message to gain power over others and impose your will like the fundies do.

Okay, off my soapbox.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:14 AM
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8. yeah why is christianity used by right wing ultra captialist goons
I don't get it. Jesus loved to help out the less fortunate, and I am sure he also had a good sense of humor, he was in Gorbichev's words, the original socialist.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:18 AM
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12. thanks for the info!
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 01:18 AM by jonnyblitz
I like that image, the sacred heart of Jesus. I agree completely with your take on the wingnuts and Jesus, too.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:20 AM
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13. thats always been my philo on it too
So jonny, a question for ya man, are you of the belief that there was a man named Jesus of Nazareth who was just an extrodinary guy who did good things, because it seems like you believe he existed, there are some athiests I know who believe that there never was a Jesus Christ.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:45 AM
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23. I am not sure.
I find the history of religion interesting even though I am not a believer. It has so much influence on everything.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:48 AM
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25. Yeah it is very influential
and interesting. It sometimes moves me and other times makes me wanna cry to see the beautiful things and terrible things some people have done in the name of religion, which is why I posted my good and bad in everything post earlier.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:03 AM
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26. oh it never moves me.
ever. I just find it interesting how it causes so much stuff(mostly bad) to happen and how much better the world would be without it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:05 AM
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28. Well, you never researched Appalachian Poverty and learned about CAP
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:08 AM by JohnKleeb
:P. But thats ok. Teasing you there btw, CAP FYI is the Christian Appalachian Project which was started by a Catholic Priest and the org has done helpless things to help the poor of Appalachia. There is bad and good caused by religion, I believe that. To quote Lennon, "Imagine there's no religion, it isn't very hard to do", thats right isn't it lol, thats my ringtone now heh.
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goodbody Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:35 AM
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21. actually, the Sacred Heart
has doctrinal as well as historical roots in the Church. It was just something I thought to point out when you were describing the image in your post. There is so much history in religion, it is always an interesting subject to me.


http://www.sacredheartdevotion.com/
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:44 AM
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22. another question for you...
do you believe jesus would have looked like the picture johnkleeb posted? I just assume he wouldnt but I am not 100% certain. :shrug:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:47 AM
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24. I really don't think most Christians believe
Personally I think it would be neat if he looked like it lol. I talked to a friend of my brother in the past, and he's Catholic like our family, a conservative but has a lot of modernism in him, definely not a fundie, he saying that Christ probably looked like an Arab or middle eastern. I for one hope Christ didn't look like Wilem Dafoe, Wilem Dafoe scares me as much as speedos do, sorry thats another lounge thread.
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goodbody Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:04 AM
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27. johnnyblitz and JohnKleeb
re: what Jesus looked like. No one knows or ever will know, but if you look at Nativity scenes, you will see so many representations that cross each culture that worships Him. Each person has to picture Jesus in their own minds, just as they embrace their own faith. For me personally, the symbolism of Jesus and his teachings are more important to visualize. The most basic facts: Jesus was Jewish, a peasant, underfed, a physical laborer with facial hair that fit the period. Here's an interesting article on the many faces of Jesus:


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/21/arts/21JESU.html?ei=5007&en=4d732275d553f498&ex=1392786000&partner=USERLAND&pagewanted=all&position=
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:07 AM
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29. very interesting article
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:04 AM
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2. where where!?!?!? *breaks out the "hippiebegood" stick*
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:08 AM
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4. HERE!


This is what good christian people should look like. :D
BTW Thats the Cleavers lol.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:10 AM
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5. what the hell is that godless commie hippie pervert doing next
to those good, upstanding, God-fearing christians? :crazy:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:11 AM
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6. I don't know!
Here's another god fearing christian.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:14 AM
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9. That pic is a lie
On many levels.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:15 AM
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10. we have no idea what the real christ looked like
My belief through what I know about people who live in that part of the world is that he didn't look at that, but I don't think he was clean cut of course and I bet he did have a beard like many men of the day.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:17 AM
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11. This pic looks like he has one blue eye and one brown...
Like this border collie:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:21 AM
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14. Jesus reincarnated himself as a border collie!
:P no wonder they're the smarteest dogs, heh sorry for being so hyper. I am a big time Catholic but I like having fun with faith.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:24 AM
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15. You may be right...
It'd be a great way to teach people to be kind to animals.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:26 AM
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16. It would be interesting
You know to be honest, though I doubt Christ looks as how he's portrayed in most western art, I think it would be best if he's like that, you know long hair and bearded and sandaled, like I don't imagine the guy teachign us to love and be kind to others to be a clean cut and business like guy.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:25 AM
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42. Western Art is right to portray him like that
Regardless of what his actual physical appearance was, the western tradition of painting him as white, is actually reasonable (Theologically speaking).

If you look at renaissance pictures of Christ, he is usually surrounded by the favourite Saints of the locale, he shares his appearance with those around him, frequently the patron who commissioned the picture is there also, the landscape is familiar &c. The point that this can illustrate is that the incarnation is about Christ being among us, and being one of us.

Obviously outside of western culture the use of a white Christ would not have this impact, and is likely to have a negative effect (white supremacy); but within a culture which is white, as long as people do not think that Christ was actually an arian, it's use can send a powerful signal about the incarnation.
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Baja Margie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:51 AM
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34. Yep, that's the man !
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:52 AM by Baja Margie
(the Border Collie that is,...)
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:28 AM
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17. How did he get his part down the middle so straight?
Wait a minute. Isn't that the guy who played tambourine for the Pineapple Dishwashers, back in '63?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:29 AM
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18. a VERY good barber
but you know he's the son of god, so there are perks to that. Who were the Pineapple Dishwashers :shrug:, my dad wasn't even my age in '63.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:32 AM
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19. Hey, some of us are a threat
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:32 AM
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20. hah
very funny.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:15 AM
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30. Everyone puts their own face on Jesus
because he was us. He refused, in his own time, to be defined by anyone.
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Baja Margie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:43 AM
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31. Excellent book:
Rabbi Jesus, by Bruce Chilton. I'm working on his Jewish-Christian Debates now. Oye !

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:44 AM
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32. sounds interesitng
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:51 AM
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33. "stoned slackers"
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:51 AM by mark414
what the fuck

those pictures were fucked up
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:52 AM
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35. who are a more smarter viewer ship than your viewers
Mr. Vibrator Falafal
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:55 AM
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36. no dude
i posted these pictures of jesus with jay and silent bob smokin and one of jesus holding a bong and a bag of pot and when they showed up on here they were both some guy spreading his cheeks for ya

what the fuck
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:56 AM
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37. ahh
I jut remembered Mr. Falafel's diss of daily show viewers, sorry.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:57 AM
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38. yeah that's what it was supposed to be a reference of
but instead i get guys spreadin their cheeks

you can't win every time :shrug:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:58 AM
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39. no you can't win everytime but you do win when you get the chance
to hear Mike Wallace curse like a sailor, well an actor portraying Mike Wallace.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:59 AM
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40. Its to prevent linking
The web site doesn't want you using their server to host your pics so they redirect any external links to the nasty pics. If you really want to post the pics dl them to your drive then post them to a site and then link to there.
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