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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:20 PM
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Sex changes and bathrooms.
I used to work at a place where one of the male employees had a sex change operation and there was a huge battle as to where he/she should go to the bathroom.

The women, who knew him as a man, didn't want him in "their" restroom and he couldn't go into the men's room anymore as he was dressed in women's clothes, wore makeup, etc.

Managing to avoid a decision, the employer opted to make a separate bathroom in the basement for him but it was very far from his cubicle like 15 floors away.

I think he should have been allowed to go to the women's restroom. There were plenty enough strange women in there to begin with so one more wouldn't make much difference.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:22 PM
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1. Sounds...
like too much competition--just kidding. What a shame.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:23 PM
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2. I would agree...
...If she is a woman now, then she is a woman.
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kittycat1164 Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:23 PM
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3. we're going through that right now
and since it's a public building they designated a "unisex" bathroom. problem solved. I wish him the best. He's gonna have a long haul.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:01 PM
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10. problem NOT solved.
it's called making the person a second/last class citizen.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:27 PM
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4. Transitioning in the workplace usually means transitioning workplaces
Regardless of legal name and gender changes, amended birth certificates, etc. Being completely stealthy is hard to near impossible for MtF who transition after secondary sex characteristics form.

Being gender ambiguous is as close as many come, but that ambiguity is no mystery to coworkers who knew the TGirl when she had a male identity.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:40 PM
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5. Same thing happened at our place of work.
New unisex bathroom. Problem solved.

What your post omits is that typically a TS person has to live as the destination gender for a year or so before the surgery is done. I wouldn't have a prob with it but I can see where some women might.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:41 PM
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6. she should have been able to use the womens bathrooms
makes me wonder what people do in the bathrooms that they are so afraid to have her there...
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:42 PM
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7. I agree
Whatever body parts he/she has, then that's which bathroom they should use.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:43 PM
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8. How stupid. She's a woman....case closed.
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 05:44 PM by Solly Mack
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:48 PM
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9. That is so weird.....
I used to work somewhere that the same situation existed. I was no longer with the company at the time. The person in question had to use the hotel next door.

And I agree with you that he should have been allowed to use the women's bathrooms. I occasionally saw this individual on Michigan Avenue after the operation and always greeted her. She seemed happy about that, I suppose some people refused to do that.
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