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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:37 PM
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Gay Men: Are you a "FLAMER"?
I'm not, but I have my moments. :P

Especially when I'm watching Absolutely Fabulous or I'm out shopping, but otherwise, I don't think I'm that "femme" or whatever you want to call it.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:38 PM
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1. No, but lately I've been feeling like a Bitter Queen
:)

I gotta snap out of this mood!

Flame on Sistah'! :party:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:41 PM
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Eh, I think all gay men are bitter queens at heart.
At least I am. :P
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:50 PM
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8. Sad thing is that in my personal life I have nothing to be bitter about
Just scared and sad and angry at what my country is becoming. Sorta like a tornado bearing down on a really great picnic.

I'm actually feeling pretty up in the last day or so though. Time to focus on the positive and to work to make small positive changes in this country every day.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:41 PM
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2. Once in a while.
I have my feminine traits, though. :-)
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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:41 PM
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3. Sometimes, I can be
depends who I am with and where. Although, no one would ever accuse me of being butch. I'm sorta in the middle.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:42 PM
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4. my straight friends can flame better then i
and it's pretty embarressing, let me tell you.

what's with all these gay acting straight guys?!?

;-)

Can't flame worth crap. Just weird and that doesn't count.

Of course, my ex-Boyfriend said i wasa big queen. But I think that was to cover up what a flamer he was
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:46 PM
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5. I saw a pink guy's shirt
that had on it "You say metrosexual like it's a bad thing!"

I was watching "Gay Weddings" on Bravo late last night and crying my head off. They were so beautiful, but then weddings ALWAYS make me cry.

One couple, Gregg and Dan, I couldn't say that either one of them were very "flame-ey." If no one told me and my gaydar was broken I wouldn't even know Dan was gay.

Personally I can act rather flame-ey, but does it count if you are a woman? My daughter came up with this whole handshake greeting thing and when she and her friend did it for me, I had to giggle. At the end you take your hands, throw them around in a circle while snapping and yelling "TOTALLY!" or "FABULOUS!" They were being very flame-ey girls!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:47 PM
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6. Placebo
if you lived closer, you and I could totally flame out while watching AbFab. I could be Eddie and you could be Patsy and we could dress up and drink a lot of alcohol and recite lines from the shows and have a blast.

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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:50 PM
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7. And we could go shopping too
we could have "shoe-gasms." God I love shoes.

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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:51 PM
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10. I had a bf w/ that affliction
:P

God, he was fun to watch in shoe store...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:56 PM
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16. Me and my best friend
both have shoe-gasms. It can get a bit embarrassing but mostly it's fun.

Once she was panting and shrieking so hard over a pair of sandals (and not even speaking) that when the sales lady came over, looking a bit confused I said "Stand back, she's having a big one!" and my friend started laughing so hard I thought she was going to wet her pants.

She bought the shoes.

Shoes and purses are my true downfall. God. But what can I say? When you are born to a former beauty pageant queen and grow up in Dallas, it's kinda your destiny to have an inner diva with an extreme shoe and bag fetish.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:59 PM
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21. Did you ever do Texas High Hair?
I'm in awe of that 'doo. :D
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:02 PM
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23. HELL YES.
I was a teenager in the 80s in DALLAS. It was practically required by law. How I wish I had a scanner and could post some pics of the really giant scary hair. My bangs alone could hurt someone. AND I have incredibly thick hair. Perms were a legal requirement as well. Really bad frizzy perms your best friend did for you over the kitchen sink with an at home kit.

I even wore little girl fold over lacy socks with white 2 inch pumps, a la the girls in ZZ Top videos. Oh my. And ripped up Flashdance type shirts.

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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:04 PM
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25. Day-um!
When you scan them, I wanna see the pix!

I bet Kinko's could do it for you (hint, hint) :D
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:06 PM
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29. Ooo maybe I will!
And if I may brag, everyone thought I was a clone of Valerie Bertinelli. Only cuter.

Ok bragging over.

And as an aside, this thread has made me realize something: I think I AM a gay man, inside.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:51 PM
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9. But I want to be Eddy!
I'm short and fat just like her! And I've got brown hair. HeHe

When I first started watching AbFab I always wanted to be Patsy, but I soon realized that I identify way more with Eddy's total neurotic, insane, insecurity complexes :P

I'd love to have a huge AbFab party with you though! We could pop in all our AbFab DVD's, crack open some Stoli and go out 'round the back and have a fag in between each episode. :P
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:54 PM
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13. Oh GOD
I would love that. I swear I need to know people in real life who worship AbFab. I tried to turn my best friend on to it, but dammit she just didn't get into it. Bless her heart I FORCED her to watch about eight episodes and now she likes it SOMEWHAT. But it's just not the same.

I thought I'd be Eddy because of the same reasons. Well I'm not FAT-fat, just a tad chunky, like Eddie! But ok, I'll be Patsy, I can do a DEAD on impersonation of her better than Eddie anyway. I just need a huge blond wig and some tall heels. And a lot of makeup. Yeah I can do her.

We can tramp around, smoke too much, drink too much and watch every episode ever made. It's on.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:57 PM
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17. And I can do Eddy PERFECT.
She's my role model in a way.

Which is horrible because Jennifer Saunders specifically made the character so that it would have NO redeemable traits. hehe

I need to run out now with my Christmas cash & buy Seasons 4 & 5 :smoke:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:59 PM
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20. We'll set up strobe lights
take strange pills and have a rave in the living room.

I just want Eddie's money. And her house in Holland Park.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:03 PM
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24. "It's not a Rave, it's a Happening!"
"This is 'The Realization of the Psychotics Dream Through'......it's Hangers Pats, HANGERS!"

"I just want to be you know, laid out in the middle of the Ganges and PECKED BY BIRDS!"
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:04 PM
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26. I'm Buddhist you know.
"Are you still doing that?"

"Almost religiously sweetie."

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:06 PM
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28. "You've been getting dressed for hours...
and you still look like a bloated citrus fruit."

"You cannot give these clothes to the POOR! They've got enough to contend with without the added humiliation of wearing LAST SEASON!"
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:10 PM
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30. AH! That last one is one of my FAVORITE lines!
"I still haven't forgotten that down and out mess drinker who leapt out at me from a cardboard box wearing a Vivien Westwood catsuit, sweetie!"

"Tell Juanita or whatever her name is that all of my clothes need to go the cleaners every other day! I've practically got no clean knickers."

"Do you have any G-string Eddie, or are they all jumbo?"

"Oh there should be a g-string in there somewhere sweetie. Though the last time I wore them I was trying on clothes in Harvey Nicks and thought I was sharing the cubicle with a sumo wrestler, darling."


"Are those the BENNETON pants? How do you DO that to clothes?"
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:14 PM
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32. "MY GOD, they'd look different on anyone else in the WORLD...
they'd look different!"

"Now sweetie sweetie, I put a few seconds aside to say this to you today.....WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE FLOPPY HAIR DARLING???"

"Here I am, your mother, POISED for your first sexual experience and night after night DRY BLOODY SHEETS! Well I don't want a little mustache virgin for a daughter so DO. SOMETHING. ABOUT. IT."

"How many times have you been 40? Never! Never! It's just something that's happening to ME. It's something I'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH. I'm sorry if that sounds selfish, sweetie, but it's ME! ME! ME!"
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:33 PM
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48. Right, cheers thanks a lot.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:34 PM
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49. Sweetie darling sweetie darling sweetie darling
why did I start calling you that, sweetie darling?

Because you couldn't remember my name the first three years.

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:46 PM
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56. "Sweetie, darling...
Do you mind if I call you that sweetie?....darling?"
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. Clear her! Clear her!
Close your said sad rag and clear! Clear!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. "Don't think you're so clever...
I've started repressed, false-memory therapy, I'll get something on you yet.

You in a wood in a hood, it's all coming back to me."
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:31 PM
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47. I was drinking Boli this weekend at my parents.
It's so common!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:15 PM
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43. Patsy does "lines" too, don't forget...
:P
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:18 PM
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44. "Yes, this one comes up again and again...
Don Alfonzo de Columbo."

"Wicker...Wicker baskets."
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:53 PM
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11. I am so staight acting..
noone believed me when I came out of the closet.

I do like nelly guys though, I don't know why. Probably for the comic relief.
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:54 PM
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12. Like anybody else I guess I have my moments.
I think just about anybody can flame it up if they really wanted to. The guys that bug me are the ones who try to act so butch and they can't stand flamers. Those guys are overcompensating if you ask me.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:55 PM
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14. You watch AB-FAB, you're a flamer. Period.
Same with...
The Golden Girls
Bewitched
Dynasty
Designing Women
etc.

Seinfeld, now that's a butch fag's show. So snap that, Honey!:evilgrin:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:57 PM
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18. My hetero husband adores AbFab.
LOL!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:59 PM
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19. But I have every 'Seinfeld' episode memorized too!
And I LOVE 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' :)

So there!
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:20 PM
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33. George likes his chicken spicy
:P
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:22 PM
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34. You said it.
HaHa
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:56 PM
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15. Not in the least.
I can do it (I can do redneck hillbilly, too), but it's not my natural demeanor. I also don't listen to Judy Garland, Streisand or Broadway show tunes. In fact, I loathe show tunes. I am, however, capable of being a major bitch - but only if aggravated; normally, I'm painfully civilized.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:00 PM
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22. I don't care for the Garland/Streisand/Show tune...
stuff either. :pals:
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:05 PM
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27. I wish. But alas, I'm not even gay.
I'm on old tired married man and my flame is out.

I really need to do something about that.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:10 PM
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31. You need an afternoon with me and Placebo.
We'll fix ya up!
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:29 PM
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35. Really? In just one afternoon?
Wow. That sounds tempting.

But I suspect that it will take more than one afternoon to undo all the damage.

;-)
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:38 PM
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36. Aw, what damage?
What's wrong? There's nothing an AbFab marathon, some shopping and some juicy gossip can't fix!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:40 PM
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38. Amen!
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:43 PM
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39. I fear all three of those things.
So what you saying is....I should stand up to my fears. That makes sense.

This time tomorrow night, I should be in Vegas. I'll try to unwind.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:48 PM
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42. Wow Vegas!
Have fun! Yeah face your fears! You can do it!
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:40 PM
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37. Not unless I know it will annoy a homophobe.
Then I can flame BIG time!

:evilgrin:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:45 PM
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40. I think all gays...
can flame it up big time if we choose too. ;)
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 06:46 PM
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41. At times but not intentionally
I think I act and look pretty "straight" but I have my moments as well.

I just like to act silly and that can be mistaken for being "flaming"
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lumberingbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:29 PM
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45. When I came out...
every one was surprized! They thought I should be more efeminate to be gay. It changed their view of gay people.

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:30 PM
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46. Bears are great.
Love the avatar btw. ;)
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lumberingbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:50 PM
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59. Thanks Placebo
:hug:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:36 PM
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50. What? OMG!! You're A Poof?? Really?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:39 PM
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51. Sarcasm?
;)
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:40 PM
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52. Moi?
:loveya:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:41 PM
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53. I posted this in the Vodka thread...
but maybe you didn't see it...



Absolut, anyone? ;)
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:43 PM
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54. Oh My!! Oh dear!!
Come to daddy!!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:47 PM
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57. You can have him...
all for the low, low price of a bottle of Absolut! Or so the Ad makers would have you think. ;)
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 08:12 PM
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60. Oh Damn! I Was Hoping It Was A Magic Potion...
... that would make me LOOK LIKE him!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 08:56 PM
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62. It's not?
Damn I gotta stop drinking that.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:44 PM
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55. Ay-yi-yi-yi-yi.
Excuse me I need some privacy, please.
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lumberingbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:47 PM
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58. Some one call 911!!!
I think I'm having a heart attack! (I did say "heart" didn't I?)

:-)
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