24. Who thinks Nina Myers is really dead?

[Raenelle]

Here's why I don't think so. (1) Jack's character. A few minutes before he "killed" Nine, investigators into his heroin addiction offered him an out, saying they'd put in their report that he'd started using after he met the Salazars, not before. Jack refused to take that easy way out, saying but it's not the truth. I started before I met them. So, why would he then, first, become a murderer; and second, lie about it. (2) If he had really murdered her, the show would have shown him going through the compulsory angst. It didn't. We just saw a shot of him firing toward her from far enough away that we couldn't see her body react. (3) If you check the 24 website, the synopsis of the scene merely says that Jack fired 3 bullets into her. It doesn't say he killed her. It doesn't say anything about her being dead. (4) The subject was entirely dropped. Jack "kills" the main villain in the series, and then nothing.

I think she's alive and CTU will use her in some unexpected, very cool way in Season 4.

[fluffernutter]

1. i've thought she didn't go that easily either.

good points you've got there. i guess we'll see ... finally in January!

[eaprez]

2. God I hope not!!!! Nina popping up got kind of old.

I don't think there would have been any angst over killing her -- he kills people regularly in his role as a CTU agent -- she killed his wife -- I don't think he'd have angst.

[Raenelle]

3. What Jack does is ambiguous. His code is not.

He follows orders. Whenever they have characters who cross the line, who commit a crime purely for their own benefit, rather than for the country, that person has started down the road to corruption. One of the most brutal things I've ever seen on . . . well, anything, was the execution of Ryan Chapelle. But his murder is with the person who ordered it (the President), not Jack. Palmer, in fact, crossed the line several times in Season Three--agreeing to pay blackmail to save his own skin, the burglary, lying to the police about Sherry. All those made him corrupt. Doing what has to be done for the country--that's one thing. Doing it for yourself--another thing entirely.

Example, FDR lied to the country to move the country in the direction of being better prepared for war with Germany and Japan. Nixon lied to the country to enhance his chances for election. The first is ambiguous in its morality. The second is not--it's corrupt.

I've never seen Jack do anything corrupt.

BTW, I think the writers had Palmer become corrupt (a bit) so that what was decent in him would lead him to the decision that he wouldn't run again. And I think he's going to pardon Tony Almeida as he leaves office.