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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:01 AM
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Poll question: Is it wrong to laugh at Bush for being a cheerleader when your own--------
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 12:20 AM by JohnKleeb
grandfather was one at Pitt?
To tell the truth, I don't think so because all I know about my grandfather says he wasn't like Bush, and didn't act like he was a tough guy, he was just a regular guy.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:03 AM
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1. What, we laugh at him for being president.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:04 AM
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2. heh we do so laugh at him for being a one time cheerleader
But I think part of the reason is his macho man persona and a male cheerleader is kind of not so macho man. My own grandfather as I was saying was a male cheerleader too in the 30's.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:11 AM
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3. The least of Shrubbie's faux pas is cheerleading.
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 12:13 AM by babylonsister
He is such a man I would never like to meet because I have not one thing in common with him. I question any integrity or intelligence he has supposedly had, because to me he has not exhibited either.
Ah, that felt good, and it was heartfelt.
Edit for grammar.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:14 AM
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4. Yep.
It's funny cuz all the Fright-wingers think of him as this macho tough-guy...and then you see the cheerleading pics.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:14 AM
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5. Yeah ok
My grandfather didnt claim to be a macho tough guy, he was so smart that even though he died before the Reagan years, he knew they wuold be trouble.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:15 AM
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6. He struts like a pygmy goat
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:32 AM
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13. As I said, cheerleading is the least of his problems.
I'm not condemning people who cheerlead, but I do condemn shrubbie*, and the reasons have nothing to do with cheerleading.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:16 AM
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7. Other...There can never be a wrong reason....
to laugh at that ASSWIPE!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:20 AM
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8. It's Pitt, just like the University of Pennsylvania is Penn and not UPenn
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:20 AM
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9. I didnt know that
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 12:21 AM by JohnKleeb
Sorry. Is it true that the remants of Forbes Field are there?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:40 AM
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14. Yes. Home plate is in Posvar hall and the outfield walls still stand
Here is some guy standing behind home plate, although student legend has it that home plates true position is in the men's room behind him.


This is the same guy in front of the building





And across the street to the right of our buddy are some standing right field wall segments

And here's the centerfield wall


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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:42 AM
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15. Interesting
I had a camp conselor who went to that school. My dad's parents are from Pittsburgh, and my great grandfather was a friend of baseball legend Honus Wagner. Thanks for those pictures, interesting.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:02 AM
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25. Interesting indeed, especially the Bill Mazeroski home run plaque
dated October 13, 1960. Never forget that game. I thought the Yankees had won for sure. I went into a state of depression after the Yankees went a head in the ninth. I had bet more money than any sane person would have and was bummed out to the point I didn't even want to watch the bottom of the ninth. I walk into the kitchen and was listening to the game......and then when Mazeroski came up to bat, not a home run hitter and not a power hitter, I figured it was all but over....then "the home run!!!!

Thanks for the photos, brought back memories of he 60's to this 72 year old hippy.

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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:25 AM
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10. Yeah, I was a cheerleader in high school and I'm male
and it has pissed me off when I see people making fun of GW for being a cheerleader, but when you read about the cheerleading that GW did, it doesn't piss me off as much. From what I've seen, he was a joke cheerleader. He didn't do stunts, lead the crowd, etc. It seems like he dressed up in drag, did stupid things to make the crowd laugh and had little to do with school spirit. I busted my ass stunting and running the flag whenever my team scored a touchdown or did something to turn the tide of the game. I did more than some of the football players did during the game. I say it's okay to laugh at GW for being a cheerleader as long as you realize what kind of cheerleader he was and you aren't laughing at all male cheerleaders.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:26 AM
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11. I think the funny part is the hypocrisy of him to act all macho and shit
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:44 AM
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12. No, but if that was the ONLY "accomplishment"
that wasn't gotten by massive assistance of friends & family, it's certainly worth a snicker or two. Unfortunately, the laugh is on us.

pnorman
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:42 AM
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16. the phrase "bring it on!" and his "tough on terror" stance justifies it...
but I'm kind of fucked in the head. anytime I hear anyone from his adminstration say something to the effect of "bring it on" makes me think of those cheerleading movies.

and besides, as anyone who's spent a few years actually where that phrase would be used (ie, lower-income areas, like where I went to high school) would know that it's know just "bring it," usually said with one hand held out in front of your chest, palm facing toward you. fake lunging is also effective, but optional.













I'm really tired. I don't know why I'm doing this.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:41 AM
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17. It's never wrong to laugh about Bush about anything he's done.
How else are we going to stomach him?
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:46 AM
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18. No. I wish he still was
At least he would be harmless then.
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andjustice4all Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:04 AM
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19. I didn't know
that your grandfather cheered for Pitt. It seems like they would be too far apart in age.

:silly:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:05 AM
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20. Yeah it was the 30's
Great guy who I never got the fortune of meeting but ahh well.
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andjustice4all Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:06 AM
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21. The 30's were
an interesting decade. Like the '60's, a lot began then.

Maybe we can attach some meaning for this decade!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:08 AM
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22. Yes they were
my other grandparents were just little kids at the beginning of the decade but by the time the 30's were out for my dad's parents, they were already parents.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:15 AM
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23. You grandfather probably didn't come close to looking like a dork
unlike dumbya. Voted Nah.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:37 AM
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24. Cheerleading was the pinnacle of Shrub's career...
He got into schools, businesses, TANG & political offices because of family influence. But he may have made it to the cheerleading squad on his own; how pathetic! And he tried to repeat that "success" on the smoking ruins of the World Trade Center.

I'll bet your grandfather had some other accomplishments in life.

And, yes, modern cheerleading would be far beyond Shrubbie's capabilities!



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