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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:43 AM
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Does this headline bother anyone else?
Shirley Chisholm, 1st black lady elected to Congress and 1972 presidential candidate, dies at 80

This was the headline in my local newspaper. In the first sentence of the article, they then use the term "woman" which I think is more correct. Am I being really picky. Maybe I'm just looking for any reason to be pissed off.

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Crowdance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:47 AM
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1. It's probably about fitting the head in the space
"woman" is significantly wider than "lady" in most fonts.
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Truman01 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:48 AM
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2. I know I'm going to get hacked for this, what is wrong with lady? nt
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:00 AM
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5. from period of second wave of woman's movement (60s-70s)
the word lady was avoided......call all doctors doctors; if you must, say woman doctor--never lady doctor

if you talk about men, then you talk about women......lady is paired with gentleman

it was a time when many of us (women) were super sensitive to language.......lady was also viewed by some as part of the putting women on a pedestal and then perceiving women as too delicate, fragile, pure for voting, working outside the home, getting an education, being doctors, lawyers, military officers, etc

I'm tired, so I'm not sure I'm making much sense with these comments
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:07 AM
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8. Agreed ...
it is a word.

I have to admit that I use the term "Black Guy" instead of African American, if I am talking about someone that I know. It is not a diss, and is by no means a display of disrespect.

Cheers
Drifter
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:49 AM
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3. Seems informal. Time was when lady was a formal term, but...
...that time is passed. You are right, it is a poor choice of words.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:54 AM
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4. I'd be bothered if she weren't a lady. n/t
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:02 AM
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6. I actually view 'lady' as a compliment
Rep. Chisolm mst certainly was a lady, in the very best sense of the word.

:D
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:05 AM
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7. Yup
I heard it on NPR on my way to work. But they said "woman" and not "lady". But yeah, I agree that the headline you saw was a poor choice of words. It bothered me more that she died. :-(
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:10 AM
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9. While I generally am not offended by the use of "lady," in this case
I do think it's inappropriate.

My son says "that lady," not "that woman," as many kids do, and I see the use in this case in a similar vein; as a diminutive.

Very not cool, in this instance.

And on a related note, God bless you and hold you in his loving embrace, Ms. Chisholm. You were one of the greats, and will be sorely, sorely missed.
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