puppy up for grabs

[Is It Fascism Yet]

hey, is there anyone out there in the Flagstaff vicinity who could give a loving home to a beautiful puppy I picked up off the road today? He was hungry, wet and cold, dodging cars in the road in the rain. I took him to the vet's office, to see if they could identify his breed. Even the staff there thought he was adorable! They said he is only 2 or 3 months old, and absolutely beautiful, a golden retriever mix. I can't keep him, one dog and one cat is the limit of my ability to care for animals. He is in my home now because I wouldn't leave him on the road. I called the "inhumane society" but they said they would just put him to sleep if I brought him in. He is only a baby, seems in good health, has floppy ears, playful and friendly. Anybody? Please?

[Beaverhausen]

1. I suggest trying Petfinder to look for local rescue groups

http://www.petfinder.org/

[NMDemDist2]

8. if you can take some pics and "foster" him for a few days

the petfinder service would work well I bet

[smbolisnch]

11. Yes, please use this service!

Thanks for taking him home until you find a home for him! So many people would just have left him to get hit. :(

Let us know what happens!

[sherilocks]

2. You can google for no-kill animal shelters

or try this link.

http://www.h4ha.org/shelters/USA/Arizona/520/1-3-9-0.html

There is one listed in Flagstaff.

http://www.h4ha.org/shelters/USA/Arizona/520/1-3-9-0.html

Or drive down to Phoenix, there are a few no-kill shelters there.

[wicket]

4. I second this

[radwriter0555]

14. Frankly there aren't any shelters where all puppies are killed upon

intake. To infer all shelters are evil is just wrong and conveys the wrong message.

The people who work in shelters are your neighbors, fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, sons and daughters. These people aren't getting rich working in animal shelters, they're there because they truly do care about what they do.

All the shelters I know truly value all animals, and as everyone knows, pupplies and kittens are a shelter's bread and butter; they're what draws in potential pet custodians. All the shelters I've ever visited are clean, sanitary and run to the best of the abilities of the people working there and confined only by their lack of funding and the massive over-population of cats and dogs. I worked with Los Angeles County shelters for over 10 years, and found every single person devoted, dedicated and true animal lovers who honestly cared deeply about their work with animals.

Animal Shelters surely serve a critical purpose in our society, in spite of the fact that humans have created the crisis' that these creatures are now facing. It's humans who've bred pit bulls into monsters and crazy cat hoarders who've caused the massive feral cat explosions in all major cities.

We can't save every single cat and dog that is in dire straits, we can only do the best we can with what limited resources are available. Your local elected representatives are the ones in charge of how well funded your local animal services are, so don't go blaming shelter workers for the constraints of their budgetary processes.

Don't sell our shelters short by giving them all a bad name. Take that puppy to the local shelter and donate $20 and some old blankets. That would serve far more than just broadly bashing every municipal animal shelter in the USA.

[Book Lover]

17. Well said

I work with rabbit rescue and have to say the same thing. Here in the SF Bay Area, there are many no-kill shelters, but one of the results of that policy is that we send out multiple email alerts every day looking for fosterers; and we mobilize to move rabbits out of the non-no-kill shelters at least a few times a week.

Overall, this is a difficult situation. Thanks to the original poster for taking in that dog; you did a good thing.

[flvegan]

19. You are my favorite person today. Thanks.

I've had that argument too many times (I run a rescue, and know the bad rap shelters get). Nice work.

[radwriter0555]

21. **whew** THANKS. I posted that one DUCKING cause I thought I'd get

slammed on taking a logical stance.

[naryaquid]

23. ...I hate to tell you this, but you're message was a reply to msg.#2

..and she in no way inferred that "all shelters are evil"..she just gave the original poster some links to no-kill shelters...a little over-reactive, I think.

[radwriter0555]

25. Limiting one's resources to those considered 'no kill' reduces the chances

that the puppy will actually end up in a great home.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

27. that's an interesting thought!

I just wish the town animal shelter would take him because if my dog runs away, that's where I call, and if he is not there when his parents look for him, they may never find him. He has big, big paws, 4 perfect white socks, golden hair and floppy cocker spaniel ears. He has a manicure, is muscular, doesn't look like he has been on his own for long. I think he might have parents looking for him.

[naryaquid]

37. o.k., but that's not the same as calling them "evil"

[Is It Fascism Yet]

41. who called them evil? I called them inhumane, because i think

it's inhumane to kill things while trying to save their lives.

[naryaquid]

53. ...Maybe I responded to the wrong poster...There's someone here

called "RadWriter" who gave a rather long and righteous speech about people who think "shelters are evil"..:shrug:

[radwriter0555]

55. What a fascinating dialogue!

**munches popcorn, watching wild stories and fairy tales flying by**

[naryaquid]

58. You DO appear to have a problem with hostility...maybe you should

take time to figure out what or who you're really angry at..

[sherilocks]

51. Thanks naryaquid

I have a house full of shelter adopted pets. My local community fully supports our animal shelter both financially and with volunteers. The shelter does litigate against those who are cruel to animals. Our sheriff's department and state's attorney office always work with them as well. The shelter is in the process of providing rest of life care to the pets of our many elderly residents who have the financial means to provide it. During hurricanes, firestorms, or any local disasters, the shelter takes in the pets that must be left behind, even transporting them to safer shelters if necessary.

Unfortunately the shelter still has to euthanize many abandoned, sick, orphaned, and unwanted pets. No-kill shelters are an alternative.

[naryaquid]

54. ..You're welcome!....I have shelter pets too...

[radwriter0555]

56. The original poster insists that the puppy will be destroyed upon intake

into the shelter.

That's a myth.

[naryaquid]

59. o.k.!

[Is It Fascism Yet]

63. i didn't say he'd be destroyed "on intake" I just said they told me

he would end up being destroyed...yeah...they will give him a few days...but so what? They also said they wouldn't call me before destroying him, and that it was not a safe bet for the puppy. Please read other post. thanks.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

24. I guess you haven't been to the inhumane society in my town

because I called them, spoke to the town animal control officer, and said I wanted to bring him to a vet and then bring him into the shelter so that they could try to locate his parents. He really looks like a dog lost by accident, he has a manicure. I asked if they would call me in the event nobody claimed him. The officer said they would not. He said they would keep him for a predetermined length of time and then if not claimed he would be destroyed. I said, "But, couldn't you call me first, if it got to that? Couldn't you tag him as not-to-be-destroyed and call me if he isn't adopted or claimed?" He said "No, I cannot tell you how many times people have asked me to do that, and then I let some animal take up space longer than he is really entitled to, and the person who wanted to be called never comes back." He hastened to add, "If you want to rescue him, you'd better just do it now, because if you leave him here, he will end up being destroyed." Now, you can say what you will about the inhumane society, but that is a verbatim conversation, and the man was no help whatsoever to me or the stray. For this I pay taxes. My daughters and do not work for the inhumane society anymore, it's true they once did, that's why in my family we now call it the "inhumane society" because of the experiences my two daughters had when they volunteered there as young girls. They had to quit because they couldn't stand playing with the kittens one day and finding them in the freezer the next. I do not have respect for any organization which supposedly helps animals by killing them. If left to fend for themselves on a rainy roadway, at least they would have a chance, although it may be slim. Frankly, I think it's a sign of the economic times when a community can't even afford a little kindness to stray animals. But, in this town, they are talking about even closing the inhumane society, for lack of funds. I guess it's hard to etch out a budget for homeless animals when the town can't even afford to house homeless people.

[bling bling]

49. I got one of my cats from a non-no-kill shelter too 2 years ago.

I found out that the cat I wanted had been there for a month and had been transferred from another shelter. I was happy to hear that because normally they kill the cats after 5 days if nobody claims them, so I guess they only do that if they are short on space.

The only thing that made me mad is that I spent a few minutes with the cat and fell in love instantly but they wouldn't let me take him home because they had just closed out the cash register for the day. I pleaded with them to just take my money and put it in the register the next day but they wouldn't budge.

I had to go home and think about him all night in that little cage and then the next day my car broke down! I called my mom to pick me up but she was sick so she couldn't do it. I ended up calling my brother who had worked the midnight shift and was in bed and asked him to get up and take me to get my cat!! I can't believe he actually did it.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

50. wow! good for you! congrats on your new baby! n/t

[Rhiannon12866]

70. The treatment that homeless animals get is the luck of the draw

Did you take any of my suggestions on your original thread? I suggested that you call local shelters to see if anyone had inquired about this dog. Leave your number with them so they can contact you if someone does call looking for him. And also check with local rescue groups, since this adorable puppy would not be difficult to place.

My friend in rescue found a dog, who she eventually reunited with his family, but they had been looking at the wrong shelter, since the dog had traveled farther than they knew. If my friend had taken this dog to her local shelter, they would never have found him. She placed an ad in the paper and they called her. So it's good to contact everybody you can think of, including animal hospitals, since you never know where people will think to call. Many animal hospitals will allow you to put up a photo with your number attached.

You can place a photo ad in the newspaper and call your local radio stations. My co-worker was reunited with her lost cat because she called the radio station and whoever had found her cat heard her announcement.

As for my original comment, I know enough people in rescue to know that this is true. And all my pets have been rescue. My sweet little terrier was found as a stray in Ohio and was scheduled to be gassed. However, there are wonderful people who run a kind of underground railroad for animals, bringing them to rescue groups here in NY and Vermont, where we have tougher animal protection laws. Apparently, this is still allowed in places in Ohio, while, at our local SPCA shelter, they have many long-time resident special needs cats and run a feral colony.

But we do have one local animal hospital who will still euthanize a healthy animal. I adopted a cocker spaniel from there. I only stopped there because my vet was away and I needed prescription food for my dog. The workers there asked me if I'd like another cocker. Her owner had died and the estate was paying to board her there for a month. She had a week left. I agreed to meet her and she broke my heart. She was so excited because she must have thought that she was finally going home. I just couldn't leave her.

I wouldn't have left this puppy at that place, if I were you, either. This does not sound like one of the good ones. Good luck and let us know how this turns out. I really hope that you find the owners, since they must be missing him. I often wonder if my Sara's owners, in Ohio, still miss her. But they never found her. And kudos to you for rescuing this puppy. He is the cutest thing. No pet deserves to be left on its own.;(

[naryaquid]

3. ...I feel for you, 'cause I LOVE dogs, especially puppies!...but

I live in Chicago...Tell me...do they have any "No Kill" shelters in your area?...They have quite a few here, although they're frequently "full"
..God, it's hard to believe that even the "inhumane" society would put a PUPPY to sleep!...They're usually adopted quickly!...I just adopted a grown dog from a shelter myself...would consider taking your pup too, but it's so far!
..I'm going to "google" your area and see if I can find a "No Kill" that will take him.

[ET Awful]

5. I'm fairly sure there's a no kill shelter somewhere near you

if not in Flagstaff, possibly Sedona or Cottonwood (not too far of a drive).

Here's a partial list of AZ shelters http://www.netpets.com/cats/catresc/arizona.htm

Poor little guy :(

I live in Boston area though.

[Worst Username Ever]

6. Heartbreaking.

n/t

[rocktivity]

7. Take a picture if you can

:headbang:
rocknation

[progressiveBadger]

9. Try...

AZ R.E.S.C.U.E or Arizona Animal Welfare League. Both will require you to come to Phoenix though.

[karlrschneider]

10. Hope you can find the pup a good home, if we didn't already have 3

adopted stray doggies & 2 kitties, I'd borrow the company plane & fly down there to get it...but we're plumb full up on ani-mules. :cry:

[jdj]

12. I'm tripping on your humane society.

Most states have a hold law, here in NC it is three days, that they have to legally hold a stray with no I.D.

Puppies are easily adoptable usually, so that is tragic. Please use your computer to google for animal rescue groups, I would put in Arizona Animal Rescue and see what comes up.

Bless you for being so kind, and for taking him to the vet.

A golden retriever breed rescue group may take him, also find groups in your area like the ASPCA who may help you financially with caring for him.

If there is a no-kill group or shelter in your area then perhaps you could "foster" the dog, whereby they vaccinate him and neuter him, but he stays at your home...as people donate a lot of food to shelters you may not have to pay for food either. Please don't give up on this guy, there are alot of options to explore.

Make sure to ask for at least $10 or $20 if you put him in the paper to give away so he doen't get sold to a medical lab. And if someone calls interested in him, YOU should go to THEIR house to check it out and not the other way around.

Just some tips, thanks for being such a kind person.

edit: here are a couple links:

http://www.azgoldenretrieverconnection.org/ (this is a golden breed rescue..they may be able to help, rescue orgs. take mixed breeds many times, you can ask them what to do)

http://www.charleeshouse.org/Resources/ResourcesAZ2.htm (this is a list of tons of shelters, etc in Arizona, but mostly phone #'s not links)

also, check out this link, maybe he can get tested to be a therapy dog and work for a living!

http://www.azgoldenretrieverconnection.org/therapydogs.htm

[Be Brave]

13. Post pic to advertise, and did you try the Lounge?

You have a good heart.

[amazona]

15. maybe try the Lounge

Lotta pet lovers there.

[Beaverhausen]

18. Also post in the DU Pets Group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=243

[wellstone dem]

16. I've already got two dogs,

but if you were in Minnesota......

[Ironpost]

20. Thank you

There will be someone to come to your rescue, all good things come to a good ending. My most memoriable Pets have been the ones no one wants. Thank you for picking him up. If no luck let me know and I will take him. David.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

30. thank you so much, DU'ers are the greatest peeps!

[RebelOne]

22. Go to YahooGroups.com.

Register and then search for pet rescue groups in your area. You will have to also join those groups. But then post with those groups and believe me, there will be plenty of people willing to help find the pup a rescue or a foster home.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

26. Thank you all so much for providing all these great resources!

So much information right here in this thread...there must be a place for him at the end of one of these leads...okay, don't be afraid for doggie, he just ate half a chicken and shit it on my white carpet, he is now playing the other animals, happy as can be. Fear not, he won't go back into the street, I asked everybody I saw at Safeway and the post office if they could love him, didn't find a taker yet, but with the help of all the links you all have provided, I will.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

28. loading up a pic, stand by, n/t

[Is It Fascism Yet]

29. how do you post a pic?

[idiosyncratic]

31. You need to upload the picture to your web site space

which your ISP should provide. If not, there are free sites where you can upload the picture.

Then you just post the address here, like this, but without the spaces:

http :// www. yourISPname.com/YourWebSiteName/NameofPicture.jpg

[disillusioned1]

32. Go to.....

http://www.photobucket.com

Register an account. Upload it. Copy and paste the URL to the pic here in a post. Let me know if you have a problem.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

40. okay, thanks for all the tech help, heres some photos of the puppy`

In the first photo, he is still wet from the rain and so has some dark streaks on his fur but they disappeared when he dried. He is very cute with a white chest, golden back, 4 perfect white socks, and a white tipped tail. He is muscular and strong looking but seems quite young. His paws seem large for him. His ears are almost like cocker spaniel ears, having tufts of fluffy fur. He is playful and got along well with my dog and cat, however, he is still in the chewing phase and chewed up quite a bit of stuff already. We also found that he is not housebroken. I am going to try to find his parents, but, failing that, want somebody who could love him to please give him a home as mine is at critical mass. He has an excellent disposition and tonight he already learned to sit before he got his treats. You know how pictures are! They don't usually flatter, the puppy is even cuter than this when animated!

<img src="">

<img src="">

<img src="">

[rocktivity]

33. You have to load it to your server if you have one

or use a program like Photobucket. Then just tupe in the URL:

:headbang:
rocknation

[nashville_brook]

34. you really need to try and find his owners!

especially if he looks like a good pup that might be someone's beloved pet.

just get a photo of him and a description faxed to the vets in your area. people who have lost pets usually ask there first.

also, there should be a lost/found book at your local shelter.

[goforit]

35. You have a big heart!!!

I love puppies and got a few of my own.

Hope you find a loving home.

[Vadem]

36. I wish I were in Flagstaff! I would take him in an instant!....n/t

[Is It Fascism Yet]

46. actually, we are in the boonies, 52 miles from Flagstaff, but, maybe I can

bring him to you? I am on my way to Florida by car soon. If nobody claims him, it's a possibility, if you really wanted him.

[Alisa]

57. This is crazy but

If there was a way this dog could be transported to MN or WI I would take him. He looks like one of my current dogs (mystery mutt - who I found in an alleyway about 8 years ago). I have a weekend place in the country where I bring my herd (of dogs - currently 3, one of which is getting feeble and this will likely be her last year), and they consider it heaven. So if anyone is driving this route then I will give this puppy a very good home.

I do think that contacting local vets, the pound and the humane society should be done though. I remember getting Buster (alleyway dog) and having the hardest time trying to describe him so that if the owner was looking for him they would recognize him from my description. You will have that same problem I think. :)

[Is It Fascism Yet]

64. thank you alisa

i have taken pics of the pup, they are somewhere in this thread, so, describing him won't be too horrible. I will consider your offer as a last resort, 'cause, it's a long drive, but if worse comes to worse I am bringing him to you. Stand by please, this may take about 3 weeks to solve...have to give owners a chance to find him, then try to adopt him out locally, and if not, I will get back to you. Thanks for so sweetly offering to take him, it sounds as if he would have a wonderful life with you!

[Alisa]

67. I will stand by and maybe we can get some help in the transport, or

meet in the middle.

I agree we need to see if someone shows up who "owns" this little cutie. I have picked up and helped many a dog too. ;-)

[Is It Fascism Yet]

68. yes, vet has pictures, pound has pictures, waiting, waiting, then yours

[Vadem]

71. I am in Virginia.....When you go to Florida, will you be passing...

near Virginia? Assuming you haven't found a home for him before you leave....He is precious.

[jdj]

38. kick

[housewolf]

39. Where's the picture? n/t

[Is It Fascism Yet]

42. they are here...

In the first photo, he is still wet from the rain and so has some dark streaks on his fur but they disappeared when he dried. He is very cute with a white chest, golden back, 4 perfect white socks, and a white tipped tail. He is muscular and strong looking but seems quite young. His paws seem large for him. His ears are almost like cocker spaniel ears, having tufts of fluffy fur. He is playful and got along well with my dog and cat, however, he is still in the chewing phase and chewed up quite a bit of stuff already. We also found that he is not housebroken. I am going to try to find his parents, but, failing that, want somebody who could love him to please give him a home as mine is at critical mass. He has an excellent disposition and tonight he already learned to sit before he got his treats. You know how pictures are! They don't usually flatter, the puppy is even cuter than this when animated!

<img src="">

<img src="">

<img src="">

[Be Brave]

43. Socks is adorable!

Look at those fluffy ears!

Have you posted this thread in the lounge yet? Many people there will look at your thread. And keep it kicked!

[Is It Fascism Yet]

45. thanks! I am really stupid about technology...isn't THIS the lounge? n/t

[Is It Fascism Yet]

47. check out the snoot, it's the snoot that always does it for me, n/t

[RebelOne]

44. Here's a resource for finding your local shelter

http://www.pets911.com/organizations/organizations.php

[Skittles]

48. you're a wonderful person

I believe what goes around comes around. :D

[flvegan]

52. Also, call your local (big) newspaper

They often have "lost" and "found" areas in the classifieds, and most will place these for free, especially for pets.

Remember, not TOO much info, and make them positively identify the dog before they come get him. Don't want the dog to wind up with a buncher...or worse.

Lastly, find a telephone pole directly outside the shelter, and post a FOUND! poster with pups picture on it. Anyone going to the shelter looking for him, should see your sign. Almost as good as him being there.

Again, thanks for picking this little guy up. Horrible things can happen to young animals when left to the mercies of society.

[Patiod]

60. AZ Humane Society isn't no-kill, but they do a great job

I think a lot of the animals they can't adopt out are pit-bulls or pit-bull mixes.

They have a fairly large endowment compared to some of the local Humane Societies - more room, lots of publicity (Pet of the Week, etc).

http://www.azhumane.org/

[Be Brave]

61. kick

[Beaverhausen]

62. Make flyers and post them at local shelters and vet offices

My boss rescued a dog she saw get hit by a car in the rain. she took the dog to a shelter a few towns away ( the only one open at night) and made flyers to take to other shelters.

Someone saw the flyer at another shelter and called her. Doggie and family are reunited!!!

that puppy is so cute...I can't imagine it not being adopted.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

65. yep, did that, hope it works, thanks for suggestion, n/t

[housewolf]

66. Have you found his parents yet?

Just curious...

[Is It Fascism Yet]

69. no, not yet, but have a couple of adoption offers n/t